Front page photo

[Tom Warner]

Jeff from the photos I downloaded all I see is a cruiseair in the passenger
side rear (bedroom) and a middle roof air. Where did you see the middle
cruiseair? Are there more pictures?

tom
1982 Fc35
Vernon Center,Ny

At 08:15 PM 5/19/2005 +0000, you wrote:
>Alloys were on most WLIIs, as were chrome bumpers, and full air-
>suspension, and by now most have had additions such as these. The
>roof-rack would be unusual.
>
>The front cap and mirrors are definately pre-'84, as are the lights,
>which puts us in the mid-'82 through mid-'83 with the '82-up
>windows, ... the new photos reveal a center cruise air and diesel
>genset, so mid-'82 to mid-'83 FC35.
>
>Now seeing whether it has a turbo and retarder will be a little more
>difficult from these photos. I wonder how it got a fixed-mount
>antenna, that and the lack of cornering light made me wonder if they
>used the early mirrors on the WLII and it was therefore a well-
>optioned WLII, but not with the center A/C and diesel genset.
>
>Fun to try to identify it though.
>
>- Jeff Miller
>
>
>
>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008"
> wrote:
> > If this is a WLII, these items have been added to the base WLII:
> > Alloy wheels, landing lights, awning, roof rack, air horns. On the
> > other hand, it has painted bumpers.
> >
> > The salon side windows extend to the bottom of the bump-strip. The
> > taller windows started in '82, I think.
> >
> > The mirrors are the same as those shown on the 82 and 83. In the
>BB
> > liturature, the mirrors changed from 83 to 84. The WLII was 1984
> > only, and (ours) uses the standard 84 WL mirror.
> >
> > I think there is too much distance from the door to the front
> > wheelwell to be a 31'. The 33 gains about a foot in that area.
> >
> > My guess is 82-83 33'. Hard to tell why the bumpers are painted,
>but
> > paint *is* an inexpensive way to temporarily deal with rusted
>chrome,
> > and this bus has seen lots of paint.
> >
> > Jeff: Is there no center roof air, or no roof airs at all? I
>guess
> > the roof airs could have been replaced with vents. Same size hole.
> >
> > Randy: Are you guessing cruise air because of no roof air? Is
>there
> > anywhere to stuff cruise air units under this age and length FC?
>It
> > is sure shallow and cramped under there compared to PTs of the same
> > age.
> >
> > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA
>
>
>
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[Jeff Miller]

Just the three under front-page photos.

In the side photo you can see the grille behind the RF wheel. I
suspect that the bumpers were either rusty and painted, or replaced
with cheaper non-chrome bus bumpers, I don't see the driving light
holes in the front.

The size of the genny door also is the larger FC35 one, not enough
space on the FC33, and the grille on the left side of the genny door.
Hard to see the grillework with that wrap on the coach, there might
even be a cornering light under the wrap as it could legally be
covered with perforated or solid.

Your '82 doesn't have the antenna lift either? Is yours about a
November '81 build date?

- Jeff Miller


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner
wrote:
> Jeff from the photos I downloaded all I see is a cruiseair in the
passenger
> side rear (bedroom) and a middle roof air. Where did you see the
middle
> cruiseair? Are there more pictures?
>
> tom
> 1982 Fc35
> Vernon Center,Ny
>
> At 08:15 PM 5/19/2005 +0000, you wrote:
> >Alloys were on most WLIIs, as were chrome bumpers, and full air-
> >suspension, and by now most have had additions such as these. The
> >roof-rack would be unusual.
> >
> >The front cap and mirrors are definately pre-'84, as are the
lights,
> >which puts us in the mid-'82 through mid-'83 with the '82-up
> >windows, ... the new photos reveal a center cruise air and diesel
> >genset, so mid-'82 to mid-'83 FC35.
> >
> >Now seeing whether it has a turbo and retarder will be a little
more
> >difficult from these photos. I wonder how it got a fixed-mount
> >antenna, that and the lack of cornering light made me wonder if
they
> >used the early mirrors on the WLII and it was therefore a well-
> >optioned WLII, but not with the center A/C and diesel genset.
> >
> >Fun to try to identify it though.
> >
> >- Jeff Miller
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008"
> > wrote:
> > > If this is a WLII, these items have been added to the base WLII:
> > > Alloy wheels, landing lights, awning, roof rack, air horns. On
the
> > > other hand, it has painted bumpers.
> > >
> > > The salon side windows extend to the bottom of the bump-strip.
The
> > > taller windows started in '82, I think.
> > >
> > > The mirrors are the same as those shown on the 82 and 83. In
the
> >BB
> > > liturature, the mirrors changed from 83 to 84. The WLII was
1984
> > > only, and (ours) uses the standard 84 WL mirror.
> > >
> > > I think there is too much distance from the door to the front
> > > wheelwell to be a 31'. The 33 gains about a foot in that area.
> > >
> > > My guess is 82-83 33'. Hard to tell why the bumpers are
painted,
> >but
> > > paint *is* an inexpensive way to temporarily deal with rusted
> >chrome,
> > > and this bus has seen lots of paint.
> > >
> > > Jeff: Is there no center roof air, or no roof airs at all? I
> >guess
> > > the roof airs could have been replaced with vents. Same size
hole.
> > >
> > > Randy: Are you guessing cruise air because of no roof air? Is
> >there
> > > anywhere to stuff cruise air units under this age and length FC?
> >It
> > > is sure shallow and cramped under there compared to PTs of the
same
> > > age.
> > >
> > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA
> >
> >
> >
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[Tom Warner]

It would be easier to identify if there were pictures of the drivers side.
Does anyone have them.

By the way cruiseairs were offered in 1982 . Mine has 3 of them from the
factory.

Tom
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY

At 08:16 PM 5/19/2005 +0000, you wrote:
>Randy - In the new photos, I can see what are probably cruise air
>grills along the passenger side. This sure seems like a one-off from
>BB. - Bob
>
>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@y...>
>wrote:
> > Since there is a running discussion about what year and model the
> > front page Bird is, I have added 3 pictures to a photo albumn called
> > "Front Page Photos of Advertising Bird". They are full size for a
>few
> > days so that you can see the details better.
> >
> > Looks like Ernie may have too much time on his hands with his
> > "exhaustive Google search", but he apprears to be correct about the
> > ownership, since the license plate says "OHBOY 2".
> >
> > Jeff, I can't tell if it is a commercial plate and did not look at
> > that when I took the pictures.
> >
> > When trying to identify the Bird, on the front page shot ignore what
> > appears to be a black exhaust pipe on the top front. It is
>actually a
> > telephone pole in the background that I just quickly erased the top
> > off in Photoshop for the front page picture.
> >
> > Mike Bulriss
> > 83 PT40 "Stagecoach" - for sale
> > 91 PT40 "Texas Minivan" - due in tomorrow
> > San Antonio, TX
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008"
> > wrote:
> > > If this is a WLII, these items have been added to the base WLII:
> > > Alloy wheels, landing lights, awning, roof rack, air horns. On
>the
> > > other hand, it has painted bumpers.
> > >
> > > The salon side windows extend to the bottom of the bump-strip.
>The
> > > taller windows started in '82, I think.
> > >
> > > The mirrors are the same as those shown on the 82 and 83. In the
>BB
> > > liturature, the mirrors changed from 83 to 84. The WLII was 1984
> > > only, and (ours) uses the standard 84 WL mirror.
> > >
> > > I think there is too much distance from the door to the front
> > > wheelwell to be a 31'. The 33 gains about a foot in that area.
> > >
> > > My guess is 82-83 33'. Hard to tell why the bumpers are painted,
>but
> > > paint *is* an inexpensive way to temporarily deal with rusted
>chrome,
> > > and this bus has seen lots of paint.
> > >
> > > Jeff: Is there no center roof air, or no roof airs at all? I
>guess
> > > the roof airs could have been replaced with vents. Same size
>hole.
> > >
> > > Randy: Are you guessing cruise air because of no roof air? Is
>there
> > > anywhere to stuff cruise air units under this age and length FC?
>It
> > > is sure shallow and cramped under there compared to PTs of the
>same
> > > age.
> > >
> > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Miller"
> > > wrote:
> > > > Although I can't see the lights enough to be sure, I'm starting
>to
> > > > think it is '82-'83, ... could be an '84 WLII if not for the
>front
> > > > cap. It doesn't seem to have a center A/C which would indicate
> > > 31/33
> > > > or WLII but other things tell me WLII. Sure am curious.
> > > >
> > > > - Jeff Miller
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, randydupree
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > i just can't tell!odd,it has cruise airs and no pods on the
> > > > roof,the whole roof is bare,then there is the gaurd over the
> > > > condensor and tv antenna on the front..randy
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Jeff Miller
> > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 10:55 PM
> > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Front page photo
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Looks like an '80, could be older, your guess Randy?
> > > > >
> > > > > - Jeff Miller
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ernest Ekberg"
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > After an exhaustive search on Google, the coach on the
>home
> > > > page is
> > > > > > from the Oberto company. http://www.ohboyoberto.com
> > > > > > It doesn't show that coach, but has descriptions of all
>their
> > > > > products.
> > > > > > It seems to be a large company that sponsors events.
>Ernie-
> > > > 83PT40 in
> > > > > > Texas
> > > > >
>
>
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[jon lechich]

Now this is little oft subject but like I said before those old Wanderlodges
came in all kinds of different configuration and here is another one that
predates history. I have been it and its all wood (Needs allot of help!) but
back by that back door inside is a office. It was built for the circus folks of
Rindum and Barley and used for (?) I don't know but it might have been a
location for paying the employees or something like that. Jon

Very interesting to look
at:http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/1942...C00121.jpg

Tom Warner wrote:
Jeff from the photos I downloaded all I see is a cruiseair in the passenger
side rear (bedroom) and a middle roof air. Where did you see the middle
cruiseair? Are there more pictures?

tom
1982 Fc35
Vernon Center,Ny

At 08:15 PM 5/19/2005 +0000, you wrote:
>Alloys were on most WLIIs, as were chrome bumpers, and full air-
>suspension, and by now most have had additions such as these. The
>roof-rack would be unusual.
>
>The front cap and mirrors are definately pre-'84, as are the lights,
>which puts us in the mid-'82 through mid-'83 with the '82-up
>windows, ... the new photos reveal a center cruise air and diesel
>genset, so mid-'82 to mid-'83 FC35.
>
>Now seeing whether it has a turbo and retarder will be a little more
>difficult from these photos. I wonder how it got a fixed-mount
>antenna, that and the lack of cornering light made me wonder if they
>used the early mirrors on the WLII and it was therefore a well-
>optioned WLII, but not with the center A/C and diesel genset.
>
>Fun to try to identify it though.
>
>- Jeff Miller
>
>
>
>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008"
> wrote:
> > If this is a WLII, these items have been added to the base WLII:
> > Alloy wheels, landing lights, awning, roof rack, air horns. On the
> > other hand, it has painted bumpers.
> >
> > The salon side windows extend to the bottom of the bump-strip. The
> > taller windows started in '82, I think.
> >
> > The mirrors are the same as those shown on the 82 and 83. In the
>BB
> > liturature, the mirrors changed from 83 to 84. The WLII was 1984
> > only, and (ours) uses the standard 84 WL mirror.
> >
> > I think there is too much distance from the door to the front
> > wheelwell to be a 31'. The 33 gains about a foot in that area.
> >
> > My guess is 82-83 33'. Hard to tell why the bumpers are painted,
>but
> > paint *is* an inexpensive way to temporarily deal with rusted
>chrome,
> > and this bus has seen lots of paint.
> >
> > Jeff: Is there no center roof air, or no roof airs at all? I
>guess
> > the roof airs could have been replaced with vents. Same size hole.
> >
> > Randy: Are you guessing cruise air because of no roof air? Is
>there
> > anywhere to stuff cruise air units under this age and length FC?
>It
> > is sure shallow and cramped under there compared to PTs of the same
> > age.
> >
> > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA
>
>
>
>
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[John Stiles]

I can't help from jumping in here. It looks like to me that there
is also a second cruiseair unit behind the front wheel for a total
of two. In addition I notice what appears to be fog lights in the
front bumper instead of on top which makes me believe that this is
an '82 or '83 model. Who started this anyhow? ;^)

John Stiles
1980 33FC
"My Navion"


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008"
wrote:
> Randy - In the new photos, I can see what are probably cruise air
> grills along the passenger side. This sure seems like a one-off
from
> BB. - Bob
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss"
<mbulriss@y...>
> wrote:
> > Since there is a running discussion about what year and model the
> > front page Bird is, I have added 3 pictures to a photo albumn
called
> > "Front Page Photos of Advertising Bird". They are full size for
a
> few
> > days so that you can see the details better.
> >
> > Looks like Ernie may have too much time on his hands with his
> > "exhaustive Google search", but he apprears to be correct about
the
> > ownership, since the license plate says "OHBOY 2".
> >
> > Jeff, I can't tell if it is a commercial plate and did not look
at
> > that when I took the pictures.
> >
> > When trying to identify the Bird, on the front page shot ignore
what
> > appears to be a black exhaust pipe on the top front. It is
> actually a
> > telephone pole in the background that I just quickly erased the
top
> > off in Photoshop for the front page picture.
> >
> > Mike Bulriss
> > 83 PT40 "Stagecoach" - for sale
> > 91 PT40 "Texas Minivan" - due in tomorrow
> > San Antonio, TX
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008"
> > wrote:
> > > If this is a WLII, these items have been added to the base
WLII:
> > > Alloy wheels, landing lights, awning, roof rack, air horns.
On
> the
> > > other hand, it has painted bumpers.
> > >
> > > The salon side windows extend to the bottom of the bump-
strip.
> The
> > > taller windows started in '82, I think.
> > >
> > > The mirrors are the same as those shown on the 82 and 83. In
the
> BB
> > > liturature, the mirrors changed from 83 to 84. The WLII was
1984
> > > only, and (ours) uses the standard 84 WL mirror.
> > >
> > > I think there is too much distance from the door to the front
> > > wheelwell to be a 31'. The 33 gains about a foot in that area.
> > >
> > > My guess is 82-83 33'. Hard to tell why the bumpers are
painted,
> but
> > > paint *is* an inexpensive way to temporarily deal with rusted
> chrome,
> > > and this bus has seen lots of paint.
> > >
> > > Jeff: Is there no center roof air, or no roof airs at all? I
> guess
> > > the roof airs could have been replaced with vents. Same size
> hole.
> > >
> > > Randy: Are you guessing cruise air because of no roof air?
Is
> there
> > > anywhere to stuff cruise air units under this age and length
FC?
> It
> > > is sure shallow and cramped under there compared to PTs of the
> same
> > > age.
> > >
> > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Miller"
> > > wrote:
> > > > Although I can't see the lights enough to be sure, I'm
starting
> to
> > > > think it is '82-'83, ... could be an '84 WLII if not for the
> front
> > > > cap. It doesn't seem to have a center A/C which would
indicate
> > > 31/33
> > > > or WLII but other things tell me WLII. Sure am curious.
> > > >
> > > > - Jeff Miller
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, randydupree
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > i just can't tell!odd,it has cruise airs and no pods on
the
> > > > roof,the whole roof is bare,then there is the gaurd over the
> > > > condensor and tv antenna on the front..randy
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Jeff Miller
> > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 10:55 PM
> > > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Front page photo
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Looks like an '80, could be older, your guess Randy?
> > > > >
> > > > > - Jeff Miller
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ernest Ekberg"
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > After an exhaustive search on Google, the coach on the
> home
> > > > page is
> > > > > > from the Oberto company. http://www.ohboyoberto.com
> > > > > > It doesn't show that coach, but has descriptions of
all
> their
> > > > > products.
> > > > > > It seems to be a large company that sponsors events.
> Ernie-
> > > > 83PT40 in
> > > > > > Texas
> > > > >

[Tom Warner]

I would have to check again but believe mine was built Nov 1982. It has the
newer dash , newer side bath, a solidly mounted TV antenna, spot light
mounted in the center of the condenser and the back up lights the same as
the front page photo.

Tom
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY

At 08:25 PM 5/19/2005 +0000, you wrote:
>Just the three under front-page photos.
>
>In the side photo you can see the grille behind the RF wheel. I
>suspect that the bumpers were either rusty and painted, or replaced
>with cheaper non-chrome bus bumpers, I don't see the driving light
>holes in the front.
>
>The size of the genny door also is the larger FC35 one, not enough
>space on the FC33, and the grille on the left side of the genny door.
>Hard to see the grillework with that wrap on the coach, there might
>even be a cornering light under the wrap as it could legally be
>covered with perforated or solid.
>
>Your '82 doesn't have the antenna lift either? Is yours about a
>November '81 build date?
>
>- Jeff Miller
>
>
>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner
>wrote:
> > Jeff from the photos I downloaded all I see is a cruiseair in the
>passenger
> > side rear (bedroom) and a middle roof air. Where did you see the
>middle
> > cruiseair? Are there more pictures?
> >
> > tom
> > 1982 Fc35
> > Vernon Center,Ny
> >
> > At 08:15 PM 5/19/2005 +0000, you wrote:
> > >Alloys were on most WLIIs, as were chrome bumpers, and full air-
> > >suspension, and by now most have had additions such as these. The
> > >roof-rack would be unusual.
> > >
> > >The front cap and mirrors are definately pre-'84, as are the
>lights,
> > >which puts us in the mid-'82 through mid-'83 with the '82-up
> > >windows, ... the new photos reveal a center cruise air and diesel
> > >genset, so mid-'82 to mid-'83 FC35.
> > >
> > >Now seeing whether it has a turbo and retarder will be a little
>more
> > >difficult from these photos. I wonder how it got a fixed-mount
> > >antenna, that and the lack of cornering light made me wonder if
>they
> > >used the early mirrors on the WLII and it was therefore a well-
> > >optioned WLII, but not with the center A/C and diesel genset.
> > >
> > >Fun to try to identify it though.
> > >
> > >- Jeff Miller
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008"
> > > wrote:
> > > > If this is a WLII, these items have been added to the base WLII:
> > > > Alloy wheels, landing lights, awning, roof rack, air horns. On
>the
> > > > other hand, it has painted bumpers.
> > > >
> > > > The salon side windows extend to the bottom of the bump-strip.
>The
> > > > taller windows started in '82, I think.
> > > >
> > > > The mirrors are the same as those shown on the 82 and 83. In
>the
> > >BB
> > > > liturature, the mirrors changed from 83 to 84. The WLII was
>1984
> > > > only, and (ours) uses the standard 84 WL mirror.
> > > >
> > > > I think there is too much distance from the door to the front
> > > > wheelwell to be a 31'. The 33 gains about a foot in that area.
> > > >
> > > > My guess is 82-83 33'. Hard to tell why the bumpers are
>painted,
> > >but
> > > > paint *is* an inexpensive way to temporarily deal with rusted
> > >chrome,
> > > > and this bus has seen lots of paint.
> > > >
> > > > Jeff: Is there no center roof air, or no roof airs at all? I
> > >guess
> > > > the roof airs could have been replaced with vents. Same size
>hole.
> > > >
> > > > Randy: Are you guessing cruise air because of no roof air? Is
> > >there
> > > > anywhere to stuff cruise air units under this age and length FC?
> > >It
> > > > is sure shallow and cramped under there compared to PTs of the
>same
> > > > age.
> > > >
> > > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > * To visit your group on the web, go to:
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[jon lechich]

Well when everyone gets tired of looking at that old Wanderlodge and you want to
pass the time of day check out this! And I'm sure you would rather be looking at
this (Nothing bad) Jon
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/1942...575721.jpg
My kind of place!
Tom Warner wrote:
I would have to check again but believe mine was built Nov 1982. It has the
newer dash , newer side bath, a solidly mounted TV antenna, spot light
mounted in the center of the condenser and the back up lights the same as
the front page photo.

Tom
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY

At 08:25 PM 5/19/2005 +0000, you wrote:
>Just the three under front-page photos.
>
>In the side photo you can see the grille behind the RF wheel. I
>suspect that the bumpers were either rusty and painted, or replaced
>with cheaper non-chrome bus bumpers, I don't see the driving light
>holes in the front.
>
>The size of the genny door also is the larger FC35 one, not enough
>space on the FC33, and the grille on the left side of the genny door.
>Hard to see the grillework with that wrap on the coach, there might
>even be a cornering light under the wrap as it could legally be
>covered with perforated or solid.
>
>Your '82 doesn't have the antenna lift either? Is yours about a
>November '81 build date?
>
>- Jeff Miller
>
>
>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner
>wrote:
> > Jeff from the photos I downloaded all I see is a cruiseair in the
>passenger
> > side rear (bedroom) and a middle roof air. Where did you see the
>middle
> > cruiseair? Are there more pictures?
> >
> > tom
> > 1982 Fc35
> > Vernon Center,Ny
> >
> > At 08:15 PM 5/19/2005 +0000, you wrote:
> > >Alloys were on most WLIIs, as were chrome bumpers, and full air-
> > >suspension, and by now most have had additions such as these. The
> > >roof-rack would be unusual.
> > >
> > >The front cap and mirrors are definately pre-'84, as are the
>lights,
> > >which puts us in the mid-'82 through mid-'83 with the '82-up
> > >windows, ... the new photos reveal a center cruise air and diesel
> > >genset, so mid-'82 to mid-'83 FC35.
> > >
> > >Now seeing whether it has a turbo and retarder will be a little
>more
> > >difficult from these photos. I wonder how it got a fixed-mount
> > >antenna, that and the lack of cornering light made me wonder if
>they
> > >used the early mirrors on the WLII and it was therefore a well-
> > >optioned WLII, but not with the center A/C and diesel genset.
> > >
> > >Fun to try to identify it though.
> > >
> > >- Jeff Miller
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008"
> > > wrote:
> > > > If this is a WLII, these items have been added to the base WLII:
> > > > Alloy wheels, landing lights, awning, roof rack, air horns. On
>the
> > > > other hand, it has painted bumpers.
> > > >
> > > > The salon side windows extend to the bottom of the bump-strip.
>The
> > > > taller windows started in '82, I think.
> > > >
> > > > The mirrors are the same as those shown on the 82 and 83. In
>the
> > >BB
> > > > liturature, the mirrors changed from 83 to 84. The WLII was
>1984
> > > > only, and (ours) uses the standard 84 WL mirror.
> > > >
> > > > I think there is too much distance from the door to the front
> > > > wheelwell to be a 31'. The 33 gains about a foot in that area.
> > > >
> > > > My guess is 82-83 33'. Hard to tell why the bumpers are
>painted,
> > >but
> > > > paint *is* an inexpensive way to temporarily deal with rusted
> > >chrome,
> > > > and this bus has seen lots of paint.
> > > >
> > > > Jeff: Is there no center roof air, or no roof airs at all? I
> > >guess
> > > > the roof airs could have been replaced with vents. Same size
>hole.
> > > >
> > > > Randy: Are you guessing cruise air because of no roof air? Is
> > >there
> > > > anywhere to stuff cruise air units under this age and length FC?
> > >It
> > > > is sure shallow and cramped under there compared to PTs of the
>same
> > > > age.
> > > >
> > > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA
> > >
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[Jeff Miller]

Yep, optional in '82, in '84 the cruiseairs were standard. My '84 had
the optional roof A/Cs, at an additional cost of $450. Talk about
confusing the buyers.

- Jeff Miller


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner
wrote:
> It would be easier to identify if there were pictures of the drivers
side.
> Does anyone have them.
>
> By the way cruiseairs were offered in 1982 . Mine has 3 of them from
the
> factory.
>
> Tom
> 1982 FC35
> Vernon Center,NY

[erniecarpet@...]

Scott Bishop and I called the company that has the coach on our home page.
The operator said that they would get back to us on this coach. So far- we wait.
It is a large company in the Northwest. How about it Jon? ever hear of this
company? Ernie-83PT40 in Texas


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[randydupree]

that was my guess,nothing on the roof= cruise airs.35 fcs have cruise airs.
randydupree93wb
----- Original Message -----
From: freewill2008
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 2:06 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Front page photo


If this is a WLII, these items have been added to the base WLII:
Alloy wheels, landing lights, awning, roof rack, air horns. On the
other hand, it has painted bumpers.

The salon side windows extend to the bottom of the bump-strip. The
taller windows started in '82, I think.

The mirrors are the same as those shown on the 82 and 83. In the BB
liturature, the mirrors changed from 83 to 84. The WLII was 1984
only, and (ours) uses the standard 84 WL mirror.

I think there is too much distance from the door to the front
wheelwell to be a 31'. The 33 gains about a foot in that area.

My guess is 82-83 33'. Hard to tell why the bumpers are painted, but
paint *is* an inexpensive way to temporarily deal with rusted chrome,
and this bus has seen lots of paint.

Jeff: Is there no center roof air, or no roof airs at all? I guess
the roof airs could have been replaced with vents. Same size hole.

Randy: Are you guessing cruise air because of no roof air? Is there
anywhere to stuff cruise air units under this age and length FC? It
is sure shallow and cramped under there compared to PTs of the same
age.

Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Miller"
wrote:
> Although I can't see the lights enough to be sure, I'm starting to
> think it is '82-'83, ... could be an '84 WLII if not for the front
> cap. It doesn't seem to have a center A/C which would indicate
31/33
> or WLII but other things tell me WLII. Sure am curious.
>
> - Jeff Miller
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, randydupree
> wrote:
> > i just can't tell!odd,it has cruise airs and no pods on the
> roof,the whole roof is bare,then there is the gaurd over the
> condensor and tv antenna on the front..randy
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jeff Miller
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 10:55 PM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Front page photo
> >
> >
> > Looks like an '80, could be older, your guess Randy?
> >
> > - Jeff Miller
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ernest Ekberg"
> > wrote:
> > > After an exhaustive search on Google, the coach on the home
> page is
> > > from the Oberto company. http://www.ohboyoberto.com
> > > It doesn't show that coach, but has descriptions of all their
> > products.
> > > It seems to be a large company that sponsors events. Ernie-
> 83PT40 in
> > > Texas
> >





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