Factory tour via Youtube

[Ross]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk1CfDQhY...re=related

[Curt Sprenger]

Ross,
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. See you again at Q 2009?...RIGHT?

Be good.

On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Ross <"rjmackillop@yahoo.ca"> wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk1CfDQhY...re=related

--
Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA

[Ross]

Hi Curt,
Not my nature to "be good".
Enjoyed the last Q. Hope you'll invite us as SOB guests.

Ross

> Ross,
> Thanks for bringing this to our attention. See you again at Q
2009?...RIGHT?
>
> Be good.
>
> On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Ross wrote:
>
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk1CfDQhY...re=related
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, CA
>

[Curt Sprenger]

Ross,
ALL RVs are invited. ...hope to see at Q2009.

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 4:53 AM, Ross <"rjmackillop@yahoo.ca"> wrote:

Hi Curt,

Not my nature to "be good".

Enjoyed the last Q. Hope you'll invite us as SOB guests.



Ross

> Ross,

> Thanks for bringing this to our attention. See you again at Q

2009?...RIGHT?

>

> Be good.

>

> On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Ross wrote:

>

> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk1CfDQhY...re=related

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Curt Sprenger

> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"

> Anaheim Hills, CA

>

--
Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA

[Ross]

Hi,
If I have a coach by then. Blue Bird lawyers!!

Ross

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger"
wrote:
>
> Ross,
> ALL RVs are invited. ...hope to see at Q2009.
>
> On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 4:53 AM, Ross wrote:
>
> > Hi Curt,
> > Not my nature to "be good".
> > Enjoyed the last Q. Hope you'll invite us as SOB guests.
> >
> > Ross
> >
> >
> > > Ross,
> > > Thanks for bringing this to our attention. See you again at Q
> > 2009?...RIGHT?
> > >
> > > Be good.
> > >
> > > On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Ross wrote:
> > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk1CfDQhY...re=related
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Curt Sprenger
> > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > Anaheim Hills, CA
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, CA
>

[JERRY SMITH]

Ross, what's the story? I know you bought about the same time I did. You bought an 2006 LXI and I got a 2005 LXI. Have you got problems with the coach? Jerry Smith 2005 450 LXI -------Original Message------- From:[/i] "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com" Date:[/i] 05/16/08 09:51:02 To:[/i] "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com" Subject:[/i] [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Factory tour via Youtube Hi, If I have a coach by then. Blue Bird lawyers!! Ross --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Curt Sprenger" ...> wrote: > > Ross, > ALL RVs are invited. ...hope to see at Q2009. > > On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 4:53 AM, Ross ...> wrote: > > > Hi Curt, > > Not my nature to "be good". > > Enjoyed the last Q. Hope you'll invite us as SOB guests. > > > > Ross > > > > > > > Ross, > > > Thanks for bringing this to our attention. See you again at Q > > 2009?...RIGHT? > > > > > > Be good. > > > > > > On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Ross > wrote: > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk1CfDQhY3c&feature=related > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Curt Sprenger > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" > > > Anaheim Hills, CA > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Curt Sprenger > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" > Anaheim Hills, CA >

[Ross]

Hi ,
There are many issues.
The move of the gennie to the 3rd bay is possibly a patch fix that
will not work in this coach. Left front -10,000 pounds and right side
8000 pounds with the bays empty. Moving the gennie to the left may
take 1/2 of its 960 pound weight off the front axle in total , but not
help the left side (This 450 has 2 slides only on left.)
The gennie in not on a slide. This is from Parliament site:
A shining example of our philosophies in action is our generator
installation. When Power Tech and Onan started offering generators in
the all-enclosed, boxed-in assembly, we carefully considered all the
benefits and drawbacks of such an installation. This installation
style affords a bit more space and ease of "assembly line"
installation, since these can be easily forklifted into place, as well
as reduced labor to custom-craft and line the generator compartment.
It does, however, severely impair its serviceability. For example,
the starter is located on the backside, necessitating generator
removal to repair or replace the starter or water pump and belt. That
may be relatively easy at the factory, but in the field it would prove
unacceptable. The generator's diesel engine is rated for the
equivalent of 500,000 miles of use before major work is needed, but we
all know from experience on our automobiles that a starter or starter
solenoid would need replacement long before that. Our end-slide
mounting of the generator affords access to all the generator components.
Also note complaint on http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ site
Legal is:

David W. Henry
Board Certified Civil Mediator
Allen Dyer Doppelt Milbrath & Gilchrist
255 So. Orange Ave.
Suite 1401
Orlando FL 32801
407.210.1486 direct
407.841.2330 main
407.841.2343 fax
http://www.addmg.com

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "JERRY SMITH" <medpro@...> wrote:
>
> Ross, what's the story? I know you bought about the same time I
did. You
> bought an 2006 LXI and I got a 2005 LXI. Have you got problems with the
> coach?
>
> Jerry Smith
> 2005 450 LXI
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: 05/16/08 09:51:02
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Factory tour via Youtube
>
> Hi,
> If I have a coach by then. Blue Bird lawyers!!
>
> Ross
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger"
> wrote:
> >
> > Ross,
> > ALL RVs are invited. ...hope to see at Q2009.
> >
> > On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 4:53 AM, Ross wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Curt,
> > > Not my nature to "be good".
> > > Enjoyed the last Q. Hope you'll invite us as SOB guests.
> > >
> > > Ross
> > >
> > >
> > > > Ross,
> > > > Thanks for bringing this to our attention. See you again at Q
> > > 2009?...RIGHT?
> > > >
> > > > Be good.
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Ross wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk1CfDQhY...re=related
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > Anaheim Hills, CA
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Curt Sprenger
> > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > Anaheim Hills, CA
> >
>

[JERRY SMITH]

Ross, sorry to hear of your problems. My coach has been at Ft. Valley since mid Marchon the recall and other problems. Trying to get a response as to when I will see it again. Sure hope everything works out to your satisfaction. Sounds like a conundrum. Jerry -------Original Message------- From:[/i] "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com" Date:[/i] 05/16/08 10:16:09 To:[/i] "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com" Subject:[/i] [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Factory tour via Youtube Hi , There are many issues. The move of the gennie to the 3rd bay is possibly a patch fix that will not work in this coach. Left front -10,000 pounds and right side 8000 pounds with the bays empty. Moving the gennie to the left may take 1/2 of its 960 pound weight off the front axle in total , but not help the left side (This 450 has 2 slides only on left.) The gennie in not on a slide. This is from Parliament site: A shining example of our philosophies in action is our generator installation. When Power Tech and Onan started offering generators in the all-enclosed, boxed-in assembly, we carefully considered all the benefits and drawbacks of such an installation. This installation style affords a bit more space and ease of "assembly line" installation, since these can be easily forklifted into place, as well as reduced labor to custom-craft and line the generator compartment. It does, however, severely impair its serviceability. For example, the starter is located on the backside, necessitating generator removal to repair or replace the starter or water pump and belt. That may be relatively easy at the factory, but in the field it would prove unacceptable. The generator's diesel engine is rated for the equivalent of 500,000 miles of use before major work is needed, but we all know from experience on our automobiles that a starter or starter solenoid would need replacement long before that. Our end-slide mounting of the generator affords access to all the generator components. Also note complaint on http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ site Legal is: David W. Henry Board Certified Civil Mediator Allen Dyer Doppelt Milbrath & Gilchrist 255 So. Orange Ave. Suite 1401 Orlando FL 32801 407.210.1486 direct 407.841.2330 main 407.841.2343 fax http://www.addmg.com --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "JERRY SMITH" <medpro@...> wrote: > > Ross, what's the story? I know you bought about the same time I did. You > bought an 2006 LXI and I got a 2005 LXI. Have you got problems with the > coach? > > Jerry Smith > 2005 450 LXI > > -------Original Message------- > > From: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com" > Date: 05/16/08 09:51:02 > To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com" > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Factory tour via Youtube > > Hi, > If I have a coach by then. Blue Bird lawyers!! > > Ross > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Curt Sprenger" > > wrote: > > > > Ross, > > ALL RVs are invited. ...hope to see at Q2009. > > > > On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 4:53 AM, Ross > wrote: > > > > > Hi Curt, > > > Not my nature to "be good". > > > Enjoyed the last Q. Hope you'll invite us as SOB guests. > > > > > > Ross > > > > > > > > > > Ross, > > > > Thanks for bringing this to our attention. See you again at Q > > > 2009?...RIGHT? > > > > > > > > Be good. > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Ross > wrote: > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk1CfDQhY3c&feature=related > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Curt Sprenger > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" > > > > Anaheim Hills, CA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Curt Sprenger > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" > > Anaheim Hills, CA > > >

[Ross]

Maybe yours is in the You-Tube video.

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "JERRY SMITH" <medpro@...> wrote:
>
> Ross, sorry to hear of your problems. My coach has been at Ft.
Valley since
> mid March on the recall and other problems. Trying to get a
response as to
> when I will see it again.
> Sure hope everything works out to your satisfaction. Sounds like a
> conundrum.
>
> Jerry
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: 05/16/08 10:16:09
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Factory tour via Youtube
>
> Hi ,
> There are many issues.
> The move of the gennie to the 3rd bay is possibly a patch fix that
> will not work in this coach. Left front -10,000 pounds and right side
> 8000 pounds with the bays empty. Moving the gennie to the left may
> take 1/2 of its 960 pound weight off the front axle in total , but not
> help the left side (This 450 has 2 slides only on left.)
> The gennie in not on a slide. This is from Parliament site:
> A shining example of our philosophies in action is our generator
> installation. When Power Tech and Onan started offering generators in
> the all-enclosed, boxed-in assembly, we carefully considered all the
> benefits and drawbacks of such an installation. This installation
> style affords a bit more space and ease of "assembly line"
> installation, since these can be easily forklifted into place, as well
> as reduced labor to custom-craft and line the generator compartment.
> It does, however, severely impair its serviceability. For example,
> the starter is located on the backside, necessitating generator
> removal to repair or replace the starter or water pump and belt. That
> may be relatively easy at the factory, but in the field it would prove
> unacceptable. The generator's diesel engine is rated for the
> equivalent of 500,000 miles of use before major work is needed, but we
> all know from experience on our automobiles that a starter or starter
> solenoid would need replacement long before that. Our end-slide
> mounting of the generator affords access to all the generator
components.
> Also note complaint on http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ site
> Legal is:
>
> David W. Henry
> Board Certified Civil Mediator
> Allen Dyer Doppelt Milbrath & Gilchrist
> 255 So. Orange Ave.
> Suite 1401
> Orlando FL 32801
> 407.210.1486 direct
> 407.841.2330 main
> 407.841.2343 fax
> http://www.addmg.com
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "JERRY SMITH" <medpro@> wrote:
> >
> > Ross, what's the story? I know you bought about the same time I
> did. You
> > bought an 2006 LXI and I got a 2005 LXI. Have you got problems
with the
> > coach?
> >
> > Jerry Smith
> > 2005 450 LXI
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> > From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: 05/16/08 09:51:02
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Factory tour via Youtube
> >
> > Hi,
> > If I have a coach by then. Blue Bird lawyers!!
> >
> > Ross
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Ross,
> > > ALL RVs are invited. ...hope to see at Q2009.
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 4:53 AM, Ross wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Curt,
> > > > Not my nature to "be good".
> > > > Enjoyed the last Q. Hope you'll invite us as SOB guests.
> > > >
> > > > Ross
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Ross,
> > > > > Thanks for bringing this to our attention. See you again at Q
> > > > 2009?...RIGHT?
> > > > >
> > > > > Be good.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Ross wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk1CfDQhY...re=related
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > Anaheim Hills, CA
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Curt Sprenger
> > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > Anaheim Hills, CA
> > >
> >
>

[Ross]

Hi,
It is possible to search defects or complaints using year, brand etc
Good for all vehicles.
The ODI number is 10226544
Ross

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, David Brady wrote:
>
> Ross,
>
> Sorry to hear about your problems and hope they get
> resolved reasonably. I went to the NHTSA link to view the
> complaint but it appears some sort of NHTSA ODI
> Number is required. Can you help?
>
> Thanks,
> David
> '02 LXi, NC
>
> Ross wrote:
> >
> > Hi ,
> > There are many issues.
> > The move of the gennie to the 3rd bay is possibly a patch fix that
> > will not work in this coach. Left front -10,000 pounds and right side
> > 8000 pounds with the bays empty. Moving the gennie to the left may
> > take 1/2 of its 960 pound weight off the front axle in total , but not
> > help the left side (This 450 has 2 slides only on left.)
> > The gennie in not on a slide. This is from Parliament site:
> > A shining example of our philosophies in action is our generator
> > installation. When Power Tech and Onan started offering generators in
> > the all-enclosed, boxed-in assembly, we carefully considered all the
> > benefits and drawbacks of such an installation. This installation
> > style affords a bit more space and ease of "assembly line"
> > installation, since these can be easily forklifted into place, as well
> > as reduced labor to custom-craft and line the generator compartment.
> > It does, however, severely impair its serviceability. For example,
> > the starter is located on the backside, necessitating generator
> > removal to repair or replace the starter or water pump and belt. That
> > may be relatively easy at the factory, but in the field it would prove
> > unacceptable. The generator's diesel engine is rated for the
> > equivalent of 500,000 miles of use before major work is needed, but we
> > all know from experience on our automobiles that a starter or starter
> > solenoid would need replacement long before that. Our end-slide
> > mounting of the generator affords access to all the generator
components.
> > Also note complaint on http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/
> > <http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/> site
> > Legal is:
> >
> > David W. Henry
> > Board Certified Civil Mediator
> > Allen Dyer Doppelt Milbrath & Gilchrist
> > 255 So. Orange Ave.
> > Suite 1401
> > Orlando FL 32801
> > 407.210.1486 direct
> > 407.841.2330 main
> > 407.841.2343 fax
> > http://www.addmg.com
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > , "JERRY SMITH"
> > <medpro@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ross, what's the story? I know you bought about the same time I
> > did. You
> > > bought an 2006 LXI and I got a 2005 LXI. Have you got problems
with the
> > > coach?
> > >
> > > Jerry Smith
> > > 2005 450 LXI
> > >
> > > -------Original Message-------
> > >
> > > From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > Date: 05/16/08 09:51:02
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Factory tour via Youtube
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > If I have a coach by then. Blue Bird lawyers!!
> > >
> > > Ross
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > , "Curt Sprenger"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ross,
> > > > ALL RVs are invited. ...hope to see at Q2009.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 4:53 AM, Ross wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Curt,
> > > > > Not my nature to "be good".
> > > > > Enjoyed the last Q. Hope you'll invite us as SOB guests.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ross
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Ross,
> > > > > > Thanks for bringing this to our attention. See you again at Q
> > > > > 2009?...RIGHT?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Be good.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Ross wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk1CfDQhY...re=related
> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk1CfDQhY...re=related>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > > Anaheim Hills, CA
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > Anaheim Hills, CA
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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