Adding an Auxiliary Air Compressor

[John McGinnis]

Has anyone installed an auxiliary compressor? My 88FC35 does not have
an auxiliary air compressor and I was thinking of adding one. Could
someone tell me the demand/requirements of a needed compressor. I was
thinking of a pump off of a Lincoln air ride system or some other 12V
compressor, or is that not a good idea? I was thinking of installing a
pump switch which would engage around 90PSI & shutoff around 120PSI and
tapping into my wet air tank. That way if the engine pump were do go
tango uniform I would have some sort of back up.
John 88FC35 On the banks of the Ohio!

[Jack & Donna Smith]

I think Harbor Freight has a few 12V compressors that are used to
"Air-Up" tires on Jeeps after off-roading. Should not be too hard to
adapt one of these..
A R B also makes one to operate the "Lockers"
But if your dash air is a lost cause, you could use the already
mounted York compressor to make an Air Pump. I mounted one on my
Jeep, and it will get 120psi quickly, with enough volume to operate
some Air Tools.. Kilby Systems in Burbank has all the info and parts
for this.
Jack Smith
1973FC31
SoCal.

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "John McGinnis"
wrote:
>
> Has anyone installed an auxiliary compressor? My 88FC35 does not have
> an auxiliary air compressor and I was thinking of adding one. Could
> someone tell me the demand/requirements of a needed compressor. I was
> thinking of a pump off of a Lincoln air ride system or some other 12V
> compressor, or is that not a good idea? I was thinking of installing a
> pump switch which would engage around 90PSI & shutoff around 120PSI and
> tapping into my wet air tank. That way if the engine pump were do go
> tango uniform I would have some sort of back up.
> John 88FC35 On the banks of the Ohio!
>

[Gregory OConnor]

I think it a bad idea to use a aux compressor to run the bus down
the road. Even if the engine compressor was what failed, that
failure may have been a result. supplementing your tanks may
facilitate a disaster.

A good friend of us both lost his bus in a fire while limping
along via the aux compressor. My theory is the loss of air pressure
was a ripped diaphram on the parking spring hold at one wheel and
not a compressor supply issue. the added cfm of the aux compressor
help lift the park shoes off the drum enough to get running.

He got out. But ;fiberglass, sticks and staples burn quicker than
steel.

I would like to mount a 120Vac aux compressor to pump up the bus.
The 12 volters that are any good cost major bucks and draw big amps
when they spinn. With preheating the engine via the 120 AC heater
and filling the bags via a 120AC compressor I could sneek out of a
campground at any hour.

GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "John McGinnis"
wrote:
>
> Has anyone installed an auxiliary compressor? My 88FC35 does not
have
> an auxiliary air compressor and I was thinking of adding one.
Could
> someone tell me the demand/requirements of a needed compressor. I
was
> thinking of a pump off of a Lincoln air ride system or some other
12V
> compressor, or is that not a good idea? I was thinking of
installing a
> pump switch which would engage around 90PSI & shutoff around
120PSI and
> tapping into my wet air tank. That way if the engine pump were do
go
> tango uniform I would have some sort of back up.
> John 88FC35 On the banks of the Ohio!
>

[Ryan Wright]

Hi John,

I asked about this last fall and generated a lot of discussion on the
topic. Here's what it boiled down to:

The factory air compressor is made by "Gast". It's 110 volt and I
think 1/3hp was the power offered. Someone told me it takes 30 minutes
to air his coach up with that compressor, but a 3/4hp model will do it
in 5 to 10. I'd love to hear confirmation on this from those who have
aux air installed - how big is your compressor and how long does it
take to air up the coach?

I want to add auxiliary air to my coach and I intend to use a 110 volt
Gast compressor if/when I get to it. These look to be $500 - $800 new
but they pop up on eBay occasionally for much less.

Problem is where to mount one. You'll have to put it in one of your
bays, so you'll be losing storage space. I've not yet decided if and
where I want to lose such space, thus the reason I've not taken on
this project yet.

-Ryan
'86 PT-40 8V92


On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:12 PM, John McGinnis wrote:
> Has anyone installed an auxiliary compressor? My 88FC35 does not have
> an auxiliary air compressor and I was thinking of adding one. Could
> someone tell me the demand/requirements of a needed compressor. I was
> thinking of a pump off of a Lincoln air ride system or some other 12V
> compressor, or is that not a good idea? I was thinking of installing a
> pump switch which would engage around 90PSI & shutoff around 120PSI and
> tapping into my wet air tank. That way if the engine pump were do go
> tango uniform I would have some sort of back up.
> John 88FC35 On the banks of the Ohio!
>
>

[brad barton]

Ryan,



Don't put it anywhere near the bedroom, trust me. The aux compressor in my Newell was mounted on the wall of the engine compartment. Every time the toilet was flushed or the park leveling airbags needed to be aired up, the compressor would kick on, startling us awake, then we'd have to wait a few minutes for it to quit. Move it as far forward as possible.

BradBarton00LXiDFW bbartonwx@...

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To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
From: ryanpwright@...
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 15:19:52 -0700
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Adding an Auxiliary Air Compressor

Hi John,

I asked about this last fall and generated a lot of discussion on the
topic. Here's what it boiled down to:

The factory air compressor is made by "Gast". It's 110 volt and I
think 1/3hp was the power offered. Someone told me it takes 30 minutes
to air his coach up with that compressor, but a 3/4hp model will do it
in 5 to 10. I'd love to hear confirmation on this from those who have
aux air installed - how big is your compressor and how long does it
take to air up the coach?

I want to add auxiliary air to my coach and I intend to use a 110 volt
Gast compressor if/when I get to it. These look to be $500 - $800 new
but they pop up on eBay occasionally for much less.

Problem is where to mount one. You'll have to put it in one of your
bays, so you'll be losing storage space. I've not yet decided if and
where I want to lose such space, thus the reason I've not taken on
this project yet.

-Ryan
'86 PT-40 8V92

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:12 PM, John McGinnis <"birds_first@yahoo.com"> wrote:
> Has anyone installed an auxiliary compressor? My 88FC35 does not have
> an auxiliary air compressor and I was thinking of adding one. Could
> someone tell me the demand/requirements of a needed compressor. I was
> thinking of a pump off of a Lincoln air ride system or some other 12V
> compressor, or is that not a good idea? I was thinking of installing a
> pump switch which would engage around 90PSI & shutoff around 120PSI and
> tapping into my wet air tank. That way if the engine pump were do go
> tango uniform I would have some sort of back up.
> John 88FC35 On the banks of the Ohio!
>
>

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[Ryan Wright]

Thanks for the tip, Brad. Appreciate that very much.

-Ryan

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 4:09 PM, brad barton <bbartonwx@...> wrote:
> Ryan,
>
> Don't put it anywhere near the bedroom, trust me. The aux compressor in my
> Newell was mounted on the wall of the engine compartment. Every time the
> toilet was flushed or the park leveling airbags needed to be aired up, the
> compressor would kick on, startling us awake, then we'd have to wait a few
> minutes for it to quit. Move it as far forward as possible.
>
> Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@...

[Leroy A. Eckert]

Mine is exactly like this one mounted on rubber mounts in the roadside
bay forward of the gray tank. I can hear it when it runs but not much.
It takes less than 10 minutes to air the bus.
http://www.drillspot.com/products/35736/...press\
or

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
Dahlonega, GA
Royale Conversion


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, brad barton <bbartonwx@...>
wrote:
>
> Ryan,
>
> Don't put it anywhere near the bedroom, trust me. The aux
compressor in my Newell was mounted on the wall of the engine
compartment. Every time the toilet was flushed or the park leveling
airbags needed to be aired up, the compressor would kick on, startling
us awake, then we'd have to wait a few minutes for it to quit. Move
it as far forward as possible. Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@...
>
>
> To: WanderlodgeForum@...: ryanpwright@...: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 15:19:52
-0700Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Adding an Auxiliary Air Compressor
>
>
>
>
> Hi John,I asked about this last fall and generated a lot of
discussion on thetopic. Here's what it boiled down to:The factory air
compressor is made by "Gast". It's 110 volt and Ithink 1/3hp was the
power offered. Someone told me it takes 30 minutesto air his coach up
with that compressor, but a 3/4hp model will do itin 5 to 10. I'd love
to hear confirmation on this from those who haveaux air installed -
how big is your compressor and how long does ittake to air up the
coach?I want to add auxiliary air to my coach and I intend to use a
110 voltGast compressor if/when I get to it. These look to be $500 -
$800 newbut they pop up on eBay occasionally for much less.Problem is
where to mount one. You'll have to put it in one of yourbays, so
you'll be losing storage space. I've not yet decided if andwhere I
want to lose such space, thus the reason I've not taken onthis project
yet.-Ryan'86 PT-40 8V92On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:12 PM, John McGinnis
wrote:> Has anyone installed an auxiliary
compressor? My 88FC35 does not have> an auxiliary air compressor and I
was thinking of adding one. Could> someone tell me the
demand/requirements of a needed compressor. I was> thinking of a pump
off of a Lincoln air ride system or some other 12V> compressor, or is
that not a good idea? I was thinking of installing a> pump switch
which would engage around 90PSI & shutoff around 120PSI and> tapping
into my wet air tank. That way if the engine pump were do go> tango
uniform I would have some sort of back up.> John 88FC35 On the banks
of the Ohio!>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[jim riordan]

John,

My 88 WBWL has an aux compressor it has a 90 psi pressure switch, this is very useful for 1 opening the dump valves when parked. 2. speeds up pressure up prior to start up. 3. can help to get you to a safe stopping point should you have problems with engine compressor. As I understand many of the wb had this option. I do not have the name of the pump but it is mounted in the rearmost bay drivers side. A great option, I have read replys that there is some precieved risks...none has happened in my coach....YET

jim riordan

88 wbwl xxv

Stuart, fl

772 260 1328

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John McGinnis wrote:

Has anyone installed an auxiliary compressor? My 88FC35 does not have
an auxiliary air compressor and I was thinking of adding one. Could
someone tell me the demand/requirements of a needed compressor. I was
thinking of a pump off of a Lincoln air ride system or some other 12V
compressor, or is that not a good idea? I was thinking of installing a
pump switch which would engage around 90PSI & shutoff around 120PSI and
tapping into my wet air tank. That way if the engine pump were do go
tango uniform I would have some sort of back up.
John 88FC35 On the banks of the Ohio!

[Pete Masterson]

In the 95 and later, the aux compressor was mounted near the AquaHot
on the street side 3rd compartment from the front. That puts it
approximately under the galley (or in my case, the dining table). I
don't have an aux compressor, but I do have a 12 v 'pancake tank'
Microphor compressor that provides air pressure for the toilet. While
at CCW, I had them switch the air supply for the dump valves over to
the Microphor compressor -- that was the only air-operated device
(other than the toilet) that's critical to me. I can barely hear the
Microphor compressor from inside the coach -- and conditions have to
be _very_ quiet for me to notice it.

I note that the HWH jacks require the suspension to be dumped, so no
air is used to level the coach. Although, seeing some of the 450 LXi
coaches here getting their weight problem attended to, It's
interesting to see the staff pump them up and down on their air bags
when getting ready to work on something.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at CCW in Riverside, CA



On Jun 4, 2008, at 4:09 PM, brad barton wrote:

> Ryan,
>
> Don't put it anywhere near the bedroom, trust me. The aux
> compressor in my Newell was mounted on the wall of the engine
> compartment. Every time the toilet was flushed or the park
> leveling airbags needed to be aired up, the compressor would kick
> on, startling us awake, then we'd have to wait a few minutes for it
> to quit. Move it as far forward as possible.
>
> Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@...