Black Valves

[ppotter14950]

Hi there

Still going thru shakedown of new unit and tried to open gray and black
tanks valves.

I was able to twist gray water handle and with some force able to open
it, but on the black, i was only able to twist about 90 degrees and it
would go no further. Does this mean i am done and need to replace, or
is there some way to lubricate or service to try and bring back to life.

If i am don, do i replace with another Dupree Products valve, or go to
camping world and buy a regular knife type valve and adapt it.

Also another newbee question, where is the hot water heater located? I
glanced over some post earlier but was not paying attention about water
heater stuff so i apoligize about that, but i have opened every door
and have not found it yet.

Thanks again

Paul & Deborah Potter
1987 PT38
Hesperia CA

[Curt Sprenger]

Hi Paul,

Not sure about the degree twist on the manual valves. Our coach has the air actuated dump valves.

Hot Water Heater...is located far drivers side, under the rear cabinets.

I'll be heading your way Friday early am. Let me know if you would like
me to stop and assist best I can. I'm heading over to our AZ property then, and I don't have a need to be there at any specific time. Email me at "curtsprenger@gmail.com" or call me at 714 269-6187. I'll need an address to look up on Mapquest.

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 8:33 PM, ppotter14950 <"audvid1@gte.net"> wrote:

Hi there



Still going thru shakedown of new unit and tried to open gray and black

tanks valves.



I was able to twist gray water handle and with some force able to open

it, but on the black, i was only able to twist about 90 degrees and it

would go no further. Does this mean i am done and need to replace, or

is there some way to lubricate or service to try and bring back to life.



If i am don, do i replace with another Dupree Products valve, or go to

camping world and buy a regular knife type valve and adapt it.



Also another newbee question, where is the hot water heater located? I

glanced over some post earlier but was not paying attention about water

heater stuff so i apoligize about that, but i have opened every door

and have not found it yet.



Thanks again



Paul & Deborah Potter

1987 PT38

Hesperia CA

--
Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA

[Gregory OConnor]

maybe Paul has air dump valves?? Curt is the air dump switch close
to the valve on the 87pt? and Paul if they are dupree I think they
are air operated and you need to build up air in the tank first to
use the air valve.

GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger"
wrote:
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> Not sure about the degree twist on the manual valves. Our coach
has the air
> actuated dump valves.
>
> Hot Water Heater...is located far drivers side, under the rear
cabinets.
>
> I'll be heading your way Friday early am. Let me know if you would
like me
> to stop and assist best I can. I'm heading over to our AZ property
then, and
> I don't have a need to be there at any specific time. Email me at
> curtsprenger@... or call me at 714 269-6187. I'll need an address
to
> look up on Mapquest.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 8:33 PM, ppotter14950 wrote:
>
> > Hi there
> >
> > Still going thru shakedown of new unit and tried to open gray
and black
> > tanks valves.
> >
> > I was able to twist gray water handle and with some force able
to open
> > it, but on the black, i was only able to twist about 90 degrees
and it
> > would go no further. Does this mean i am done and need to
replace, or
> > is there some way to lubricate or service to try and bring back
to life.
> >
> > If i am don, do i replace with another Dupree Products valve, or
go to
> > camping world and buy a regular knife type valve and adapt it.
> >
> > Also another newbee question, where is the hot water heater
located? I
> > glanced over some post earlier but was not paying attention
about water
> > heater stuff so i apoligize about that, but i have opened every
door
> > and have not found it yet.
> >
> > Thanks again
> >
> > Paul & Deborah Potter
> > 1987 PT38
> > Hesperia CA
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, CA
>

[mbulriss]

Sounds like the manual dump valves. Twist 90 and pull outward on the
handle to open them. Reverse when done.

Water heater is hidden away under the far rear corner driver's side
of the closet where Curt indicated.

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ppotter14950"
wrote:
>
> Hi there
>
> Still going thru shakedown of new unit and tried to open gray and
black
> tanks valves.
>
> I was able to twist gray water handle and with some force able to
open
> it, but on the black, i was only able to twist about 90 degrees and
it
> would go no further. Does this mean i am done and need to replace,
or
> is there some way to lubricate or service to try and bring back to
life.
>
> If i am don, do i replace with another Dupree Products valve, or go
to
> camping world and buy a regular knife type valve and adapt it.
>
> Also another newbee question, where is the hot water heater
located? I
> glanced over some post earlier but was not paying attention about
water
> heater stuff so i apoligize about that, but i have opened every
door
> and have not found it yet.
>
> Thanks again
>
> Paul & Deborah Potter
> 1987 PT38
> Hesperia CA
>

[Curt Sprenger]

Greg,

Good point, Paul's dump valves just might be air dump valves. I'll know more after observing on Friday. On our coach, the air valve controls are just above the dump pipe hose connection. If you are not too busy, can you meet at Paul's in the early am Friday? I'll buy breakfast!

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:42 PM, Gregory OConnor <"Gregoryoc@aol.com"> wrote:

maybe Paul has air dump valves?? Curt is the air dump switch close

to the valve on the 87pt? and Paul if they are dupree I think they

are air operated and you need to build up air in the tank first to

use the air valve.



GregoryO'Connor

94ptRomolandCa



--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Curt Sprenger"

wrote:

>

> Hi Paul,

>

> Not sure about the degree twist on the manual valves. Our coach

has the air

> actuated dump valves.

>

> Hot Water Heater...is located far drivers side, under the rear

cabinets.

>

> I'll be heading your way Friday early am. Let me know if you would

like me

> to stop and assist best I can. I'm heading over to our AZ property

then, and

> I don't have a need to be there at any specific time. Email me at

> curtsprenger@... or call me at 714 269-6187. I'll need an address

to

> look up on Mapquest.

>

>

> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 8:33 PM, ppotter14950 wrote:

>

> > Hi there

> >

> > Still going thru shakedown of new unit and tried to open gray

and black

> > tanks valves.

> >

> > I was able to twist gray water handle and with some force able

to open

> > it, but on the black, i was only able to twist about 90 degrees

and it

> > would go no further. Does this mean i am done and need to

replace, or

> > is there some way to lubricate or service to try and bring back

to life.

> >

> > If i am don, do i replace with another Dupree Products valve, or

go to

> > camping world and buy a regular knife type valve and adapt it.

> >

> > Also another newbee question, where is the hot water heater

located? I

> > glanced over some post earlier but was not paying attention

about water

> > heater stuff so i apoligize about that, but i have opened every

door

> > and have not found it yet.

> >

> > Thanks again

> >

> > Paul & Deborah Potter

> > 1987 PT38

> > Hesperia CA

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Curt Sprenger

> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"

> Anaheim Hills, CA

>

--
Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA

[Stephen Birtles]

You can New Inserts or guts for the valves
it is a five minute job to replace them
all you need is a screwdriver
undo 2 screws pullout the valve push in the new one and replace the
screws and you are finished
order online at http://www.dupreeproducts.com

Stephen 77fc35 owner of dupree products



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ppotter14950"
wrote:
>
> Hi there
>
> Still going thru shakedown of new unit and tried to open gray and black
> tanks valves.
>
> I was able to twist gray water handle and with some force able to open
> it, but on the black, i was only able to twist about 90 degrees and it
> would go no further. Does this mean i am done and need to replace, or
> is there some way to lubricate or service to try and bring back to life.
>
> If i am don, do i replace with another Dupree Products valve, or go to
> camping world and buy a regular knife type valve and adapt it.
>
> Also another newbee question, where is the hot water heater located? I
> glanced over some post earlier but was not paying attention about water
> heater stuff so i apoligize about that, but i have opened every door
> and have not found it yet.
>
> Thanks again
>
> Paul & Deborah Potter
> 1987 PT38
> Hesperia CA
>

[Henry Jay Hannigan]

Paul:
Recommend ELECTRIC VALVES.....DRAINMASTER.COM out of Hollister
California......call the factory direct IF u want to save
money....they will even put the attachements on the drainmasters
before they ship them....I put Drainmasters on my 90SP and am very
happy!!! push a button and "BAM" the "stuff" flows.....
make sure you get the "good" switches also.....
u can email me privately IF u have any questions...Also the 2008
bluebird is using electric dump valves for your information...
Regards,
Hank
90SP36











--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ppotter14950"
wrote:
>
> Hi there
>
> Still going thru shakedown of new unit and tried to open gray and
black
> tanks valves.
>
> I was able to twist gray water handle and with some force able to
open
> it, but on the black, i was only able to twist about 90 degrees and
it
> would go no further. Does this mean i am done and need to replace,
or
> is there some way to lubricate or service to try and bring back to
life.
>
> If i am don, do i replace with another Dupree Products valve, or go
to
> camping world and buy a regular knife type valve and adapt it.
>
> Also another newbee question, where is the hot water heater
located? I
> glanced over some post earlier but was not paying attention about
water
> heater stuff so i apoligize about that, but i have opened every
door
> and have not found it yet.
>
> Thanks again
>
> Paul & Deborah Potter
> 1987 PT38
> Hesperia CA
>

[Richard Gideon]

Hi Paul: Give Stephen Birtles a Call...You can replace those Dupree
paddles on the valves for < $20 each. This is a no brainer; the
paddles have probably swelled and become hardened because of age and
the harsh effect of the operating environment. Lubricate the new
paddles with teflon grease and clean the paddle seating surface
during reassembly. The two phillips head screws can be removed with
a long phillips head screwdriver or try a phillips head bit on a 1/4"
drive extension and 1/4" ratchet.

If you plan on going to Maxton this fall, I'll help you do this
project...Stephen B sold me two paddles recently and my valves now
operate smoothly (with air or manually) and more importantly, no more
leaks.

Dick Gideon
1989 35 FC
Rolla, MO

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ppotter14950"
wrote:
>
> Hi there
>
> Still going thru shakedown of new unit and tried to open gray and
black
> tanks valves.
>
> I was able to twist gray water handle and with some force able to
open
> it, but on the black, i was only able to twist about 90 degrees and
it
> would go no further. Does this mean i am done and need to replace,
or
> is there some way to lubricate or service to try and bring back to
life.
>
> If i am don, do i replace with another Dupree Products valve, or go
to
> camping world and buy a regular knife type valve and adapt it.
>
> Also another newbee question, where is the hot water heater
located? I
> glanced over some post earlier but was not paying attention about
water
> heater stuff so i apoligize about that, but i have opened every
door
> and have not found it yet.
>
> Thanks again
>
> Paul & Deborah Potter
> 1987 PT38
> Hesperia CA
>

[Gregory OConnor]

Hank I think electric valves are the ticket because most times when
I dump I have no air to open or close the valve so I do it manualy
or have to plan dumping. I just wonder what would happen to the
electric motors if the valve's gate encounters an obstacle of a high
fiber nature? would the motor stop or continue and damage the gate/
seal and motor?? and the other question is if the electric motor
fails can you manualy dump?

GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Henry Jay Hannigan"
wrote:
>
> Paul:
> Recommend ELECTRIC VALVES.....DRAINMASTER.COM out of Hollister
> California......call the factory direct IF u want to save
> money....they will even put the attachements on the drainmasters
> before they ship them....I put Drainmasters on my 90SP and am very
> happy!!! push a button and "BAM" the "stuff" flows.....
> make sure you get the "good" switches also.....
> u can email me privately IF u have any questions...Also the 2008
> bluebird is using electric dump valves for your information...
> Regards,
> Hank
> 90SP36
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ppotter14950"
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi there
> >
> > Still going thru shakedown of new unit and tried to open gray
and
> black
> > tanks valves.
> >
> > I was able to twist gray water handle and with some force able
to
> open
> > it, but on the black, i was only able to twist about 90 degrees
and
> it
> > would go no further. Does this mean i am done and need to
replace,
> or
> > is there some way to lubricate or service to try and bring back
to
> life.
> >
> > If i am don, do i replace with another Dupree Products valve, or
go
> to
> > camping world and buy a regular knife type valve and adapt it.
> >
> > Also another newbee question, where is the hot water heater
> located? I
> > glanced over some post earlier but was not paying attention
about
> water
> > heater stuff so i apoligize about that, but i have opened every
> door
> > and have not found it yet.
> >
> > Thanks again
> >
> > Paul & Deborah Potter
> > 1987 PT38
> > Hesperia CA
> >
>

[Stephen Birtles]

it strips the small nylon gears
yes you can manually dump be prepared to spen 5 or 6 minute winding
open the valves

Stephen 77fc35




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
wrote:
>
> Hank I think electric valves are the ticket because most times when
> I dump I have no air to open or close the valve so I do it manualy
> or have to plan dumping. I just wonder what would happen to the
> electric motors if the valve's gate encounters an obstacle of a high
> fiber nature? would the motor stop or continue and damage the gate/
> seal and motor?? and the other question is if the electric motor
> fails can you manualy dump?
>
> GregoryO'Connor
> 94ptRomolandCa
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Henry Jay Hannigan"
> wrote:
> >
> > Paul:
> > Recommend ELECTRIC VALVES.....DRAINMASTER.COM out of Hollister
> > California......call the factory direct IF u want to save
> > money....they will even put the attachements on the drainmasters
> > before they ship them....I put Drainmasters on my 90SP and am very
> > happy!!! push a button and "BAM" the "stuff" flows.....
> > make sure you get the "good" switches also.....
> > u can email me privately IF u have any questions...Also the 2008
> > bluebird is using electric dump valves for your information...
> > Regards,
> > Hank
> > 90SP36
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ppotter14950"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi there
> > >
> > > Still going thru shakedown of new unit and tried to open gray
> and
> > black
> > > tanks valves.
> > >
> > > I was able to twist gray water handle and with some force able
> to
> > open
> > > it, but on the black, i was only able to twist about 90 degrees
> and
> > it
> > > would go no further. Does this mean i am done and need to
> replace,
> > or
> > > is there some way to lubricate or service to try and bring back
> to
> > life.
> > >
> > > If i am don, do i replace with another Dupree Products valve, or
> go
> > to
> > > camping world and buy a regular knife type valve and adapt it.
> > >
> > > Also another newbee question, where is the hot water heater
> > located? I
> > > glanced over some post earlier but was not paying attention
> about
> > water
> > > heater stuff so i apoligize about that, but i have opened every
> > door
> > > and have not found it yet.
> > >
> > > Thanks again
> > >
> > > Paul & Deborah Potter
> > > 1987 PT38
> > > Hesperia CA
> > >
> >
>