Black Valves

[Kurt Horvath]

I like the air valves, fast, positive action, tough, great factory
service, I can't imagine that the electric units are built better
than the air units, and after looking at them online they are not
nearly as tough looking as the air valve, in my opinion, as far as
the new bird getting electric valves saving money is an incentive,
wave bye-bye to the classic bird, they are cheaper than the Duprez
Twist-Loc Power Valve. Air valve also operate in the traditional
manner, just pull and there she blows. As far as no air to operate,
my coach has auxiliary air, just hit the dash switch and in a few
minuets air to spare, You could make the same argument for no power ,
either situation would be rare. So I would say economy verses
quality, I like quality, If for no other reason the air valves are by
far way cooler, POWWOOSSSSHHHEE,!!!!!!!

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42 WLWB
10AC



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Birtles"
wrote:
>
> it strips the small nylon gears
> yes you can manually dump be prepared to spen 5 or 6 minute winding
> open the valves
>
> Stephen 77fc35
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
> wrote:
> >
> > Hank I think electric valves are the ticket because most times
when
> > I dump I have no air to open or close the valve so I do it
manualy
> > or have to plan dumping. I just wonder what would happen to the
> > electric motors if the valve's gate encounters an obstacle of a
high
> > fiber nature? would the motor stop or continue and damage the
gate/
> > seal and motor?? and the other question is if the electric motor
> > fails can you manualy dump?
> >
> > GregoryO'Connor
> > 94ptRomolandCa
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Henry Jay Hannigan"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Paul:
> > > Recommend ELECTRIC VALVES.....DRAINMASTER.COM out of Hollister
> > > California......call the factory direct IF u want to save
> > > money....they will even put the attachements on the
drainmasters
> > > before they ship them....I put Drainmasters on my 90SP and am
very
> > > happy!!! push a button and "BAM" the "stuff" flows.....
> > > make sure you get the "good" switches also.....
> > > u can email me privately IF u have any questions...Also the
2008
> > > bluebird is using electric dump valves for your information...
> > > Regards,
> > > Hank
> > > 90SP36
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ppotter14950"

> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi there
> > > >
> > > > Still going thru shakedown of new unit and tried to open gray
> > and
> > > black
> > > > tanks valves.
> > > >
> > > > I was able to twist gray water handle and with some force
able
> > to
> > > open
> > > > it, but on the black, i was only able to twist about 90
degrees
> > and
> > > it
> > > > would go no further. Does this mean i am done and need to
> > replace,
> > > or
> > > > is there some way to lubricate or service to try and bring
back
> > to
> > > life.
> > > >
> > > > If i am don, do i replace with another Dupree Products valve,
or
> > go
> > > to
> > > > camping world and buy a regular knife type valve and adapt it.
> > > >
> > > > Also another newbee question, where is the hot water heater
> > > located? I
> > > > glanced over some post earlier but was not paying attention
> > about
> > > water
> > > > heater stuff so i apoligize about that, but i have opened
every
> > > door
> > > > and have not found it yet.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again
> > > >
> > > > Paul & Deborah Potter
> > > > 1987 PT38
> > > > Hesperia CA
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[Greg Young]

I'm very happy with my nice old manual pull valves. What I want now is an upgrade to my backup camera and monitor, and a tire pressure monitor.

But, right now, we're at Burning Man, and there's much more to fun away from the bus than inside of it!

Greg (AKA Smoke Blower to my Burner friends)
1986 PT-40
Black Rock City NV, for the next week the 5th largest city in Nevada.

----- Original Message ----
From: Kurt Horvath
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday,
August 21, 2008 7:47:14 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Black Valves

I like the air valves, fast, positive action, tough, great factory

service, I can't imagine that the electric units are built better

than the air units, and after looking at them online they are not

nearly as tough looking as the air valve, in my opinion, as far as

the new bird getting electric valves saving money is an incentive,

wave bye-bye to the classic bird, they are cheaper than the Duprez

Twist-Loc Power Valve. Air valve also operate in the traditional

manner, just pull and there she blows. As far as no air to operate,

my coach has auxiliary air, just hit the dash switch and in a few

minuets air to spare, You could make the same argument for no power ,

either situation would be rare. So I would say economy verses

quality, I like quality, If for no other reason the air valves are by

far way cooler, POWWOOSSSSHHHEE, !!!!!!!



Kurt Horvath

95 PT-42 WLWB

10AC



--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Stephen Birtles"

wrote:

>

> it strips the small nylon gears

> yes you can manually dump be prepared to spen 5 or 6 minute winding

> open the valves

>

> Stephen 77fc35

>

>

>

>

> --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Gregory OConnor"

> wrote:

> >

> > Hank I think electric valves are the ticket because most times

when

> > I dump I have no air to open or close the valve so I do it

manualy

> > or have to plan dumping. I just wonder what would happen to the

> > electric motors if the valve's gate encounters an obstacle of a

high

> > fiber nature? would the motor stop or continue and damage the

gate/

> > seal and motor?? and the other question is if the electric motor

> > fails can you manualy dump?

> >

> > GregoryO'Connor

> > 94ptRomolandCa

> >

> > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Henry Jay Hannigan"

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Paul:

> > > Recommend ELECTRIC VALVES.....DRAINMAS TER.COM out of Hollister

> > > California.. ....call the factory direct IF u want to save

> > > money....they will even put the attachements on the

drainmasters

> > > before they ship them....I put Drainmasters on my 90SP and am

very

> > > happy!!! push a button and "BAM" the "stuff" flows.....

> > > make sure you get the "good" switches also.....

> > > u can email me privately IF u have any questions... Also the

2008

> > > bluebird is using electric dump valves for your information. ..

> > > Regards,

> > > Hank

> > > 90SP36

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "ppotter14950"



> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi there

> > > >

> > > > Still going thru shakedown of new unit and tried to open gray

> > and

> > > black

> > > > tanks valves.

> > > >

> > > > I was able to twist gray water handle and with some force

able

> > to

> > > open

> > > > it, but on the black, i was only able to twist about 90

degrees

> > and

> > > it

> > > > would go no further. Does this mean i am done and need to

> > replace,

> > > or

> > > > is there some way to lubricate or service to try and bring

back

> > to

> > > life.

> > > >

> > > > If i am don, do i replace with another Dupree Products valve,

or

> > go

> > > to

> > > > camping world and buy a regular knife type valve and adapt it.

> > > >

> > > > Also another newbee question, where is the hot water heater

> > > located? I

> > > > glanced over some post earlier but was not paying attention

> > about

> > > water

> > > > heater stuff so i apoligize about that, but i have opened

every

> > > door

> > > > and have not found it yet.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks again

> > > >

> > > > Paul & Deborah Potter

> > > > 1987 PT38

> > > > Hesperia CA

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Kurt Horvath]

You Rock On Greg!

If you want the best gadget upgrade try FORWARD LOOKING INFRARED,
F.L.I.R.

Ya know it doesn't matter what you've got as long as it works.

t Horvath
95 PT-42 WLWB
10AC




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Greg Young
wrote:
>
> I'm very happy with my nice old manual pull valves. What I want
now is an upgrade to my backup camera and monitor, and a tire
pressure monitor.
>
> But, right now, we're at Burning Man, and there's much more to fun
away from the bus than inside of it!
>
> Greg (AKA Smoke Blower to my Burner friends)
> 1986 PT-40
> Black Rock City NV, for the next week the 5th largest city in
Nevada.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Kurt Horvath
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 7:47:14 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Black Valves
>
>
> I like the air valves, fast, positive action, tough, great factory
> service, I can't imagine that the electric units are built better
> than the air units, and after looking at them online they are not
> nearly as tough looking as the air valve, in my opinion, as far as
> the new bird getting electric valves saving money is an incentive,
> wave bye-bye to the classic bird, they are cheaper than the Duprez
> Twist-Loc Power Valve. Air valve also operate in the traditional
> manner, just pull and there she blows. As far as no air to operate,
> my coach has auxiliary air, just hit the dash switch and in a few
> minuets air to spare, You could make the same argument for no
power ,
> either situation would be rare. So I would say economy verses
> quality, I like quality, If for no other reason the air valves are
by
> far way cooler, POWWOOSSSSHHHEE, !!!!!!!
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 PT-42 WLWB
> 10AC
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Stephen Birtles"
> wrote:
> >
> > it strips the small nylon gears
> > yes you can manually dump be prepared to spen 5 or 6 minute
winding
> > open the valves
> >
> > Stephen 77fc35
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Gregory OConnor"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hank I think electric valves are the ticket because most times
> when
> > > I dump I have no air to open or close the valve so I do it
> manualy
> > > or have to plan dumping. I just wonder what would happen to the
> > > electric motors if the valve's gate encounters an obstacle of a
> high
> > > fiber nature? would the motor stop or continue and damage the
> gate/
> > > seal and motor?? and the other question is if the electric
motor
> > > fails can you manualy dump?
> > >
> > > GregoryO'Connor
> > > 94ptRomolandCa
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Henry Jay Hannigan"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Paul:
> > > > Recommend ELECTRIC VALVES.....DRAINMAS TER.COM out of
Hollister
> > > > California.. ....call the factory direct IF u want to save
> > > > money....they will even put the attachements on the
> drainmasters
> > > > before they ship them....I put Drainmasters on my 90SP and am
> very
> > > > happy!!! push a button and "BAM" the "stuff" flows.....
> > > > make sure you get the "good" switches also.....
> > > > u can email me privately IF u have any questions... Also the
> 2008
> > > > bluebird is using electric dump valves for your
information. ..
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Hank
> > > > 90SP36
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "ppotter14950"
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi there
> > > > >
> > > > > Still going thru shakedown of new unit and tried to open
gray
> > > and
> > > > black
> > > > > tanks valves.
> > > > >
> > > > > I was able to twist gray water handle and with some force
> able
> > > to
> > > > open
> > > > > it, but on the black, i was only able to twist about 90
> degrees
> > > and
> > > > it
> > > > > would go no further. Does this mean i am done and need to
> > > replace,
> > > > or
> > > > > is there some way to lubricate or service to try and bring
> back
> > > to
> > > > life.
> > > > >
> > > > > If i am don, do i replace with another Dupree Products
valve,
> or
> > > go
> > > > to
> > > > > camping world and buy a regular knife type valve and adapt
it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also another newbee question, where is the hot water heater
> > > > located? I
> > > > > glanced over some post earlier but was not paying attention
> > > about
> > > > water
> > > > > heater stuff so i apoligize about that, but i have opened
> every
> > > > door
> > > > > and have not found it yet.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks again
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul & Deborah Potter
> > > > > 1987 PT38
> > > > > Hesperia CA
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[Leroy Eckert]

Burning Man; sounds like a trip!! Speaking of trips; I am willing to bet that lots of folks there believe parts are working when they aren't, and believe parts aren't working when they are. Leave the parts changing to another day so the parts are installed correctly. Love those festivals and would like to hit Burning Man one day. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors Dahlonega, gA Royale Conversion --- On Fri, 8/22/08, Kurt Horvath wrote: From: Kurt Horvath Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Black Valves To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 1:00 AM You Rock On Greg! If you want the best gadget upgrade try FORWARD LOOKING INFRARED, F.L.I.R. Ya know it doesn't matter what you've got as long as it works. t Horvath 95 PT-42 WLWB 10AC --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Greg Young wrote: > > I'm very happy with my nice old manual pull valves. What I want now is an upgrade to my backup camera and monitor, and a tire pressure monitor. > > But, right now, we're at Burning Man, and there's much more to fun away from the bus than inside of it! > > Greg (AKA Smoke Blower to my Burner friends) > 1986 PT-40 > Black Rock City NV, for the next week the 5th largest city in Nevada. > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Kurt Horvath > To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com" > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 7:47:14 PM > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Black Valves > > > I like the air valves, fast, positive action, tough, great factory > service, I can't imagine that the electric units are built better > than the air units, and after looking at them online they are not > nearly as tough looking as the air valve, in my opinion, as far as > the new bird getting electric valves saving money is an incentive, > wave bye-bye to the classic bird, they are cheaper than the Duprez > Twist-Loc Power Valve. Air valve also operate in the traditional > manner, just pull and there she blows. As far as no air to operate, > my coach has auxiliary air, just hit the dash switch and in a few > minuets air to spare, You could make the same argument for no power , > either situation would be rare. So I would say economy verses > quality, I like quality, If for no other reason the air valves are by > far way cooler, POWWOOSSSSHHHEE, !!!!!!! > > Kurt Horvath > 95 PT-42 WLWB > 10AC > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Stephen Birtles" > wrote: > > > > it strips the small nylon gears > > yes you can manually dump be prepared to spen 5 or 6 minute winding > > open the valves > > > > Stephen 77fc35 > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Gregory OConnor" > > wrote: > > > > > > Hank I think electric valves are the ticket because most times > when > > > I dump I have no air to open or close the valve so I do it > manualy > > > or have to plan dumping. I just wonder what would happen to the > > > electric motors if the valve's gate encounters an obstacle of a > high > > > fiber nature? would the motor stop or continue and damage the > gate/ > > > seal and motor?? and the other question is if the electric motor > > > fails can you manualy dump? > > > > > > GregoryO'Connor > > > 94ptRomolandCa > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Henry Jay Hannigan" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Paul: > > > > Recommend ELECTRIC VALVES.....DRAINMAS TER.COM out of Hollister > > > > California.. ....call the factory direct IF u want to save > > > > money....they will even put the attachements on the > drainmasters > > > > before they ship them....I put Drainmasters on my 90SP and am > very > > > > happy!!! push a button and "BAM" the "stuff" flows..... > > > > make sure you get the "good" switches also..... > > > > u can email me privately IF u have any questions... Also the > 2008 > > > > bluebird is using electric dump valves for your information. .. > > > > Regards, > > > > Hank > > > > 90SP36 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "ppotter14950" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi there > > > > > > > > > > Still going thru shakedown of new unit and tried to open gray > > > and > > > > black > > > > > tanks valves. > > > > > > > > > > I was able to twist gray water handle and with some force > able > > > to > > > > open > > > > > it, but on the black, i was only able to twist about 90 > degrees > > > and > > > > it > > > > > would go no further. Does this mean i am done and need to > > > replace, > > > > or > > > > > is there some way to lubricate or service to try and bring > back > > > to > > > > life. > > > > > > > > > > If i am don, do i replace with another Dupree Products valve, > or > > > go > > > > to > > > > > camping world and buy a regular knife type valve and adapt it. > > > > > > > > > > Also another newbee question, where is the hot water heater > > > > located? I > > > > > glanced over some post earlier but was not paying attention > > > about > > > > water > > > > > heater stuff so i apoligize about that, but i have opened > every > > > > door > > > > > and have not found it yet. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again > > > > > > > > > > Paul & Deborah Potter > > > > > 1987 PT38 > > > > > Hesperia CA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

[P & D]

Thanks for all the ideals.

Curt Sprenger came by the house today and
we went thru the coach and learned more things about it. As we looked at the
valves he determined that they are manual valves and that we can order from Dupree
products the replacement guts for them.

Thanks again to all for the help, sure
makes owning a Bluebird much easier

Paul & Deborah

1987 PT38

Hesperia CA

---

From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Birtles

Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008
6:00 PM

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re:
Black Valves

it strips the small nylon gears

yes you can manually dump be prepared to spen 5 or 6 minute winding

open the valves



Stephen 77fc35



--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",
"Gregory OConnor"

..> wrote:

>

> Hank I think electric valves are the ticket because most times when

> I dump I have no air to open or close the valve so I do it manualy

> or have to plan dumping. I just wonder what would happen to the

> electric motors if the valve's gate encounters an obstacle of a high

> fiber nature? would the motor stop or continue and damage the gate/

> seal and motor?? and the other question is if the electric motor

> fails can you manualy dump?

>

> GregoryO'Connor

> 94ptRomolandCa

>

> --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",
"Henry Jay Hannigan"

> wrote:

> >

> > Paul:

> > Recommend ELECTRIC VALVES.....DRAINMASTER.COM out of Hollister

> > California......call
the factory direct IF u want to save

> > money....they will even put the attachements on the drainmasters

> > before they ship them....I put Drainmasters on my 90SP and am very

> > happy!!! push a button and "BAM" the "stuff"
flows.....

> > make sure you get the "good" switches also.....

> > u can email me privately IF u have any questions...Also the 2008


> > bluebird is using electric dump valves for your information...

> > Regards,

> > Hank

> > 90SP36

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",
"ppotter14950"

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi there

> > >

> > > Still going thru shakedown of new unit and tried to open gray

> and

> > black

> > > tanks valves.

> > >

> > > I was able to twist gray water handle and with some force able

> to

> > open

> > > it, but on the black, i was only able to twist about 90 degrees

> and

> > it

> > > would go no further. Does this mean i am done and need to

> replace,

> > or

> > > is there some way to lubricate or service to try and bring back

> to

> > life.

> > >

> > > If i am don, do i replace with another Dupree Products valve, or


> go

> > to

> > > camping world and buy a regular knife type valve and adapt it.

> > >

> > > Also another newbee question, where is the hot water heater

> > located? I

> > > glanced over some post earlier but was not paying attention

> about

> > water

> > > heater stuff so i apoligize about that, but i have opened every

> > door

> > > and have not found it yet.

> > >

> > > Thanks again

> > >

> > > Paul & Deborah Potter

> > > 1987 PT38

> > > Hesperia CA

> > >

> >

>

[Henry Jay Hannigan]

GREG:
Electric motors not involved as I believe the 12 volt dump valves
operate by a SYNCRO with an LED switch. An ALEN wrench is also
provide should your 12 volts be out...very easy to open or close the
valve with an ALEN wrench.......you can
call ....DRAINMASTERS.COM....... and ask them the particulars.....I
have had all three types and love the 12 volt switches.....
before, with the regular twist and pulls, it was bend over in the
cold or hot weather and hope they opened and did not break...with the
air dump valves I had before the 12 volt one now installed, I always
had to START THE MOTOR TO AIR UP BEFORE DUMPING....NOW with 12volt
DRAINMASTERS WITH THE LED SWITCH, I go outside, lift the panel, PUSH
the button and BAM...the "stuff" flows!!! The guy at the factory in
Hollister California was very helpul...at no extra charge, he added
the accessories I needed attached to the drainmasters to fit my
tanks..very nice people.........
Electric dump valve are great if u r OLD like me!!
Regards,
Hank
90SP36 still in los wages

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
wrote:
>
> Hank I think electric valves are the ticket because most times when
> I dump I have no air to open or close the valve so I do it manualy
> or have to plan dumping. I just wonder what would happen to the
> electric motors if the valve's gate encounters an obstacle of a
high
> fiber nature? would the motor stop or continue and damage the gate/
> seal and motor?? and the other question is if the electric motor
> fails can you manualy dump?
>
> GregoryO'Connor
> 94ptRomolandCa
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Henry Jay Hannigan"
> wrote:
> >
> > Paul:
> > Recommend ELECTRIC VALVES.....DRAINMASTER.COM out of Hollister
> > California......call the factory direct IF u want to save
> > money....they will even put the attachements on the drainmasters
> > before they ship them....I put Drainmasters on my 90SP and am
very
> > happy!!! push a button and "BAM" the "stuff" flows.....
> > make sure you get the "good" switches also.....
> > u can email me privately IF u have any questions...Also the 2008
> > bluebird is using electric dump valves for your information...
> > Regards,
> > Hank
> > 90SP36
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ppotter14950"

> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi there
> > >
> > > Still going thru shakedown of new unit and tried to open gray
> and
> > black
> > > tanks valves.
> > >
> > > I was able to twist gray water handle and with some force able
> to
> > open
> > > it, but on the black, i was only able to twist about 90 degrees
> and
> > it
> > > would go no further. Does this mean i am done and need to
> replace,
> > or
> > > is there some way to lubricate or service to try and bring back
> to
> > life.
> > >
> > > If i am don, do i replace with another Dupree Products valve,
or
> go
> > to
> > > camping world and buy a regular knife type valve and adapt it.
> > >
> > > Also another newbee question, where is the hot water heater
> > located? I
> > > glanced over some post earlier but was not paying attention
> about
> > water
> > > heater stuff so i apoligize about that, but i have opened every
> > door
> > > and have not found it yet.
> > >
> > > Thanks again
> > >
> > > Paul & Deborah Potter
> > > 1987 PT38
> > > Hesperia CA
> > >
> >
>

[Bob Lawrence]

We have had the Drainmasters on 3 rigs now. Just love em!
Got the new ones with the LED on the switch. When our Micro Pulse
Monitor panel says full, we just push the button mounted just over
the panel by the fridge.
Don't even go outside!!
Bob Lawrence
84 PT36
Workcamping in Branson Mo.

> GREG:
> Electric motors not involved as I believe the 12 volt dump valves
> operate by a SYNCRO with an LED switch. An ALEN wrench is also
> provide should your 12 volts be out...very easy to open or close
the
> valve with an ALEN wrench.......you can
> call ....DRAINMASTERS.COM....... and ask them the particulars.....I
> have had all three types and love the 12 volt switches.....
> before, with the regular twist and pulls, it was bend over in the
> cold or hot weather and hope they opened and did not break...with
the
> air dump valves I had before the 12 volt one now installed, I
always
> had to START THE MOTOR TO AIR UP BEFORE DUMPING....NOW with 12volt
> DRAINMASTERS WITH THE LED SWITCH, I go outside, lift the panel,
PUSH
> the button and BAM...the "stuff" flows!!! The guy at the factory
in
> Hollister California was very helpul...at no extra charge, he added
> the accessories I needed attached to the drainmasters to fit my
> tanks..very nice people.........
> Electric dump valve are great if u r OLD like me!!
> Regards,
> Hank
> 90SP36 still in los wages

[Henry Jay Hannigan]

What are the dates on the "BURNING MAN" thing??
Regards,
Hank
90SP36










--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Leroy Eckert
wrote:
>
> Burning Man; sounds like a trip!! Speaking of trips; I am willing
to bet that lots of folks there believe parts are working when they
aren't, and believe parts aren't working when they are. Leave the
parts changing to another day so the parts are installed correctly.
Love those festivals and would like to hit Burning Man one day.
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> Dahlonega, gA
> Royale Conversion
>
> --- On Fri, 8/22/08, Kurt Horvath wrote:
> From: Kurt Horvath
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Black Valves
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 1:00 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> You Rock On Greg!
>
>
>
> If you want the best gadget upgrade try FORWARD LOOKING INFRARED,
>
> F.L.I.R.
>
>
>
> Ya know it doesn't matter what you've got as long as it works.
>
>
>
> t Horvath
>
> 95 PT-42 WLWB
>
> 10AC
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Greg Young
>
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > I'm very happy with my nice old manual pull valves. What I want
>
> now is an upgrade to my backup camera and monitor, and a tire
>
> pressure monitor.
>
> >
>
> > But, right now, we're at Burning Man, and there's much more to
fun
>
> away from the bus than inside of it!
>
> >
>
> > Greg (AKA Smoke Blower to my Burner friends)
>
> > 1986 PT-40
>
> > Black Rock City NV, for the next week the 5th largest city in
>
> Nevada.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > ----- Original Message ----
>
> > From: Kurt Horvath
>
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 7:47:14 PM
>
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Black Valves
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I like the air valves, fast, positive action, tough, great
factory
>
> > service, I can't imagine that the electric units are built better
>
> > than the air units, and after looking at them online they are not
>
> > nearly as tough looking as the air valve, in my opinion, as far
as
>
> > the new bird getting electric valves saving money is an
incentive,
>
> > wave bye-bye to the classic bird, they are cheaper than the
Duprez
>
> > Twist-Loc Power Valve. Air valve also operate in the traditional
>
> > manner, just pull and there she blows. As far as no air to
operate,
>
> > my coach has auxiliary air, just hit the dash switch and in a few
>
> > minuets air to spare, You could make the same argument for no
>
> power ,
>
> > either situation would be rare. So I would say economy verses
>
> > quality, I like quality, If for no other reason the air valves
are
>
> by
>
> > far way cooler, POWWOOSSSSHHHEE, !!!!!!!
>
> >
>
> > Kurt Horvath
>
> > 95 PT-42 WLWB
>
> > 10AC
>
> >
>
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Stephen Birtles"
>
> > wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > it strips the small nylon gears
>
> > > yes you can manually dump be prepared to spen 5 or 6 minute
>
> winding
>
> > > open the valves
>
> > >
>
> > > Stephen 77fc35
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Gregory OConnor"
>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Hank I think electric valves are the ticket because most
times
>
> > when
>
> > > > I dump I have no air to open or close the valve so I do it
>
> > manualy
>
> > > > or have to plan dumping. I just wonder what would happen to
the
>
> > > > electric motors if the valve's gate encounters an obstacle of
a
>
> > high
>
> > > > fiber nature? would the motor stop or continue and damage the
>
> > gate/
>
> > > > seal and motor?? and the other question is if the electric
>
> motor
>
> > > > fails can you manualy dump?
>
> > > >
>
> > > > GregoryO'Connor
>
> > > > 94ptRomolandCa
>
> > > >
>
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Henry Jay
Hannigan"
>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > Paul:
>
> > > > > Recommend ELECTRIC VALVES.....DRAINMAS TER.COM out of
>
> Hollister
>
> > > > > California.. ....call the factory direct IF u want to save
>
> > > > > money....they will even put the attachements on the
>
> > drainmasters
>
> > > > > before they ship them....I put Drainmasters on my 90SP and
am
>
> > very
>
> > > > > happy!!! push a button and "BAM" the "stuff" flows.....
>
> > > > > make sure you get the "good" switches also.....
>
> > > > > u can email me privately IF u have any questions... Also
the
>
> > 2008
>
> > > > > bluebird is using electric dump valves for your
>
> information. ..
>
> > > > > Regards,
>
> > > > > Hank
>
> > > > > 90SP36
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "ppotter14950"
>
> >
>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > >
>
> > > > > > Hi there
>
> > > > > >
>
> > > > > > Still going thru shakedown of new unit and tried to open
>
> gray
>
> > > > and
>
> > > > > black
>
> > > > > > tanks valves.
>
> > > > > >
>
> > > > > > I was able to twist gray water handle and with some force
>
> > able
>
> > > > to
>
> > > > > open
>
> > > > > > it, but on the black, i was only able to twist about 90
>
> > degrees
>
> > > > and
>
> > > > > it
>
> > > > > > would go no further. Does this mean i am done and need
to
>
> > > > replace,
>
> > > > > or
>
> > > > > > is there some way to lubricate or service to try and
bring
>
> > back
>
> > > > to
>
> > > > > life.
>
> > > > > >
>
> > > > > > If i am don, do i replace with another Dupree Products
>
> valve,
>
> > or
>
> > > > go
>
> > > > > to
>
> > > > > > camping world and buy a regular knife type valve and
adapt
>
> it.
>
> > > > > >
>
> > > > > > Also another newbee question, where is the hot water
heater
>
> > > > > located? I
>
> > > > > > glanced over some post earlier but was not paying
attention
>
> > > > about
>
> > > > > water
>
> > > > > > heater stuff so i apoligize about that, but i have opened
>
> > every
>
> > > > > door
>
> > > > > > and have not found it yet.
>
> > > > > >
>
> > > > > > Thanks again
>
> > > > > >
>
> > > > > > Paul & Deborah Potter
>
> > > > > > 1987 PT38
>
> > > > > > Hesperia CA
>
> > > > > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > > >
>
> > >
>
> >
>

[Greg Young]

Hey Hank - It officially starts next Monday and goes through Labor Day. Same time every year. Check out http://www.burningman.com, or if you get Current TV on satellite or cable they will be broadcasting live.

Greg
86PT40
Black Rock City Nevada - the only gifting economy in the world!

----- Original Message ----
From: Henry Jay Hannigan
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 7:58:29 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Black Valves

What are the dates on the "BURNING MAN" thing??

Regards,

Hank

90SP36



--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Leroy Eckert

wrote:

>

> Burning Man; sounds like a trip!! Speaking of trips; I am willing

to bet that lots of folks there believe parts are working when they

aren't, and believe parts aren't working when they are. Leave the

parts changing to another day so the parts are installed correctly.

Love those festivals and would like to hit Burning Man one day.

> Leroy Eckert

> 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors

> Dahlonega, gA

> Royale Conversion

>

> --- On Fri, 8/22/08, Kurt Horvath wrote:

> From: Kurt Horvath

> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Black Valves

> To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"

> Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 1:00 AM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> You Rock On Greg!

>

>

>

> If you want the best gadget upgrade try FORWARD LOOKING INFRARED,

>

> F.L.I.R.

>

>

>

> Ya know it doesn't matter what you've got as long as it works.

>

>

>

> t Horvath

>

> 95 PT-42 WLWB

>

> 10AC

>

>

>

> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Greg Young

>

> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > I'm very happy with my nice old manual pull valves. What I want

>

> now is an upgrade to my backup camera and monitor, and a tire

>

> pressure monitor.

>

> >

>

> > But, right now, we're at Burning Man, and there's much more to

fun

>

> away from the bus than inside of it!

>

> >

>

> > Greg (AKA Smoke Blower to my Burner friends)

>

> > 1986 PT-40

>

> > Black Rock City NV, for the next week the 5th largest city in

>

> Nevada.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > ----- Original Message ----

>

> > From: Kurt Horvath

>

> > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com

>

> > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 7:47:14 PM

>

> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Black Valves

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > I like the air valves, fast, positive action, tough, great

factory

>

> > service, I can't imagine that the electric units are built better

>

> > than the air units, and after looking at them online they are not

>

> > nearly as tough looking as the air valve, in my opinion, as far

as

>

> > the new bird getting electric valves saving money is an

incentive,

>

> > wave bye-bye to the classic bird, they are cheaper than the

Duprez

>

> > Twist-Loc Power Valve. Air valve also operate in the traditional

>

> > manner, just pull and there she blows. As far as no air to

operate,

>

> > my coach has auxiliary air, just hit the dash switch and in a few

>

> > minuets air to spare, You could make the same argument for no

>

> power ,

>

> > either situation would be rare. So I would say economy verses

>

> > quality, I like quality, If for no other reason the air valves

are

>

> by

>

> > far way cooler, POWWOOSSSSHHHEE, !!!!!!!

>

> >

>

> > Kurt Horvath

>

> > 95 PT-42 WLWB

>

> > 10AC

>

> >

>

> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Stephen Birtles"

>

> > wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > > it strips the small nylon gears

>

> > > yes you can manually dump be prepared to spen 5 or 6 minute

>

> winding

>

> > > open the valves

>

> > >

>

> > > Stephen 77fc35

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Gregory OConnor"

>

> > > wrote:

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Hank I think electric valves are the ticket because most

times

>

> > when

>

> > > > I dump I have no air to open or close the valve so I do it

>

> > manualy

>

> > > > or have to plan dumping. I just wonder what would happen to

the

>

> > > > electric motors if the valve's gate encounters an obstacle of

a

>

> > high

>

> > > > fiber nature? would the motor stop or continue and damage the

>

> > gate/

>

> > > > seal and motor?? and the other question is if the electric

>

> motor

>

> > > > fails can you manualy dump?

>

> > > >

>

> > > > GregoryO'Connor

>

> > > > 94ptRomolandCa

>

> > > >

>

> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Henry Jay

Hannigan"

>

> > > > wrote:

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Paul:

>

> > > > > Recommend ELECTRIC VALVES.....DRAINMAS TER.COM out of

>

> Hollister

>

> > > > > California.. ....call the factory direct IF u want to save

>

> > > > > money....they will even put the attachements on the

>

> > drainmasters

>

> > > > > before they ship them....I put Drainmasters on my 90SP and

am

>

> > very

>

> > > > > happy!!! push a button and "BAM" the "stuff" flows.....

>

> > > > > make sure you get the "good" switches also.....

>

> > > > > u can email me privately IF u have any questions... Also

the

>

> > 2008

>

> > > > > bluebird is using electric dump valves for your

>

> information. ..

>

> > > > > Regards,

>

> > > > > Hank

>

> > > > > 90SP36

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "ppotter14950"

>

> >

>

> > > > > wrote:

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Hi there

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Still going thru shakedown of new unit and tried to open

>

> gray

>

> > > > and

>

> > > > > black

>

> > > > > > tanks valves.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > I was able to twist gray water handle and with some force

>

> > able

>

> > > > to

>

> > > > > open

>

> > > > > > it, but on the black, i was only able to twist about 90

>

> > degrees

>

> > > > and

>

> > > > > it

>

> > > > > > would go no further. Does this mean i am done and need

to

>

> > > > replace,

>

> > > > > or

>

> > > > > > is there some way to lubricate or service to try and

bring

>

> > back

>

> > > > to

>

> > > > > life.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > If i am don, do i replace with another Dupree Products

>

> valve,

>

> > or

>

> > > > go

>

> > > > > to

>

> > > > > > camping world and buy a regular knife type valve and

adapt

>

> it.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Also another newbee question, where is the hot water

heater

>

> > > > > located? I

>

> > > > > > glanced over some post earlier but was not paying

attention

>

> > > > about

>

> > > > > water

>

> > > > > > heater stuff so i apoligize about that, but i have opened

>

> > every

>

> > > > > door

>

> > > > > > and have not found it yet.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Thanks again

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Paul & Deborah Potter

>

> > > > > > 1987 PT38

>

> > > > > > Hesperia CA

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > >

>

> >

>