Speakking of Steering Boxes . . .

[freewill2008]

Last week I changed the power steering hydraulic oil from "whatever was
in there" to Redline synthetic power steering fluid. The steering had
always balked and squawked in tight low-speed situations like parking.
Well the second that synthetic fluid hit the system I could spin the
wheel stop-to-stop (on gravel) with little or no resistance. Looks
like synthetic is a winner!

I also installed an oil cooler in the steering system. Hopefully the
valve action will improve out on the road and hydraulic noise will be
reduced.

Many thanks to David KerryEdwards and others who have shared their
experiences and suggested the synthetic oil and cooler.

Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII - Ross HFB64 box.

[Kurt Horvath]

Thanks for that post Bob,

I thought that I had all my fluids changed out on my last trip to the
shop. I overlooked the hydraulic steering fluid, like you say who
knows how long that fluid has been in there, I have no records of
that.

I have been working on the coach steering since day one and while
it's greatly improved, it could be better.

A few questions need to be answered.

On a `95 PT-42 is the hydraulic fluid in the steering box a stand
alone system, or is it tied into other systems? Does it have a
cooler, I've never seen anything that looked like a cooler, but two
weeks ago while under the coach I noticed a squirrel cage fan and
motor in the top rear of the generator doghouse, never noticed it
before. If not, does it need one? Are there any internal adjustments
in the steering box ?

Any other inf. would be helpful.

Kurt Horvath
95-PT-42 WLWB
10AC



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008"
wrote:
>
> Last week I changed the power steering hydraulic oil from "whatever
was
> in there" to Redline synthetic power steering fluid. The steering
had
> always balked and squawked in tight low-speed situations like
parking.
> Well the second that synthetic fluid hit the system I could spin
the
> wheel stop-to-stop (on gravel) with little or no resistance. Looks
> like synthetic is a winner!
>
> I also installed an oil cooler in the steering system. Hopefully
the
> valve action will improve out on the road and hydraulic noise will
be
> reduced.
>
> Many thanks to David KerryEdwards and others who have shared their
> experiences and suggested the synthetic oil and cooler.
>
> Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII - Ross HFB64 box.
>

[Gregory OConnor]

on the 94pt steering pump is the fan pump and the fluids are kept in
the fan fluid reservoir. oil cooler is large radiator infront of
engine radiator

GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt
Horvath" wrote:
>
> Thanks for that post Bob,
>
> I thought that I had all my fluids changed out on my last trip to
the
> shop. I overlooked the hydraulic steering fluid, like you say who
> knows how long that fluid has been in there, I have no records of
> that.
>
> I have been working on the coach steering since day one and while
> it's greatly improved, it could be better.
>
> A few questions need to be answered.
>
> On a `95 PT-42 is the hydraulic fluid in the steering box a stand
> alone system, or is it tied into other systems? Does it have a
> cooler, I've never seen anything that looked like a cooler, but
two
> weeks ago while under the coach I noticed a squirrel cage fan and
> motor in the top rear of the generator doghouse, never noticed it
> before. If not, does it need one? Are there any internal
adjustments
> in the steering box ?
>
> Any other inf. would be helpful.
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95-PT-42 WLWB
> 10AC
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008"
> wrote:
> >
> > Last week I changed the power steering hydraulic oil
from "whatever
> was
> > in there" to Redline synthetic power steering fluid. The
steering
> had
> > always balked and squawked in tight low-speed situations like
> parking.
> > Well the second that synthetic fluid hit the system I could spin
> the
> > wheel stop-to-stop (on gravel) with little or no resistance.
Looks
> > like synthetic is a winner!
> >
> > I also installed an oil cooler in the steering system.
Hopefully
> the
> > valve action will improve out on the road and hydraulic noise
will
> be
> > reduced.
> >
> > Many thanks to David KerryEdwards and others who have shared
their
> > experiences and suggested the synthetic oil and cooler.
> >
> > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII - Ross HFB64 box.
> >
>

[mbulriss]

In addition to what Greg mentioned, as I recall from memory (now
there's a risk after several glasses of box wine - Hi Ernie!) that
steering reservoir on the PT takes engine oil rather than power
steering fluid. So synthetic engine oil rather than synthetic power
steering fluid in a PT system.

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
wrote:
>
> on the 94pt steering pump is the fan pump and the fluids are kept in
> the fan fluid reservoir. oil cooler is large radiator infront of
> engine radiator
>
> GregoryO'Connor
> 94ptRomolandCa--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt
> Horvath" wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for that post Bob,
> >
> > I thought that I had all my fluids changed out on my last trip to
> the
> > shop. I overlooked the hydraulic steering fluid, like you say who
> > knows how long that fluid has been in there, I have no records of
> > that.
> >
> > I have been working on the coach steering since day one and while
> > it's greatly improved, it could be better.
> >
> > A few questions need to be answered.
> >
> > On a `95 PT-42 is the hydraulic fluid in the steering box a stand
> > alone system, or is it tied into other systems? Does it have a
> > cooler, I've never seen anything that looked like a cooler, but
> two
> > weeks ago while under the coach I noticed a squirrel cage fan and
> > motor in the top rear of the generator doghouse, never noticed it
> > before. If not, does it need one? Are there any internal
> adjustments
> > in the steering box ?
> >
> > Any other inf. would be helpful.
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
> > 95-PT-42 WLWB
> > 10AC
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Last week I changed the power steering hydraulic oil
> from "whatever
> > was
> > > in there" to Redline synthetic power steering fluid. The
> steering
> > had
> > > always balked and squawked in tight low-speed situations like
> > parking.
> > > Well the second that synthetic fluid hit the system I could spin
> > the
> > > wheel stop-to-stop (on gravel) with little or no resistance.
> Looks
> > > like synthetic is a winner!
> > >
> > > I also installed an oil cooler in the steering system.
> Hopefully
> > the
> > > valve action will improve out on the road and hydraulic noise
> will
> > be
> > > reduced.
> > >
> > > Many thanks to David KerryEdwards and others who have shared
> their
> > > experiences and suggested the synthetic oil and cooler.
> > >
> > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII - Ross HFB64 box.
> > >
> >
>

[Kurt Horvath]

Gregg,


So if I understand correctly the power steering is hooked up to the
fan hydraulic system. So this is all one system?

The 42 `s radiators are stacked in order: Dash A/C condenser,
Intercooler, Engine Radiator.

On the PT-42 there is another smaller radiator between the main
radiator and the rear wheels on the roadside, These are the
hydraulic fan cooling radiators.

I'm not sure where the reservoir is located.. Is there a reservoir?
Would the Radiator itself be the reservoir? I have no clue at this
point.

Kurt Horvath
95 Pt-42 WLWB
|10AC


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
wrote:
>
> on the 94pt steering pump is the fan pump and the fluids are kept
in
> the fan fluid reservoir. oil cooler is large radiator infront of
> engine radiator
>
> GregoryO'Connor
> 94ptRomolandCa--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt
> Horvath" wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for that post Bob,
> >
> > I thought that I had all my fluids changed out on my last trip to
> the
> > shop. I overlooked the hydraulic steering fluid, like you say who
> > knows how long that fluid has been in there, I have no records of
> > that.
> >
> > I have been working on the coach steering since day one and while
> > it's greatly improved, it could be better.
> >
> > A few questions need to be answered.
> >
> > On a `95 PT-42 is the hydraulic fluid in the steering box a stand
> > alone system, or is it tied into other systems? Does it have a
> > cooler, I've never seen anything that looked like a cooler, but
> two
> > weeks ago while under the coach I noticed a squirrel cage fan and
> > motor in the top rear of the generator doghouse, never noticed it
> > before. If not, does it need one? Are there any internal
> adjustments
> > in the steering box ?
> >
> > Any other inf. would be helpful.
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
> > 95-PT-42 WLWB
> > 10AC
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Last week I changed the power steering hydraulic oil
> from "whatever
> > was
> > > in there" to Redline synthetic power steering fluid. The
> steering
> > had
> > > always balked and squawked in tight low-speed situations like
> > parking.
> > > Well the second that synthetic fluid hit the system I could
spin
> > the
> > > wheel stop-to-stop (on gravel) with little or no resistance.
> Looks
> > > like synthetic is a winner!
> > >
> > > I also installed an oil cooler in the steering system.
> Hopefully
> > the
> > > valve action will improve out on the road and hydraulic noise
> will
> > be
> > > reduced.
> > >
> > > Many thanks to David KerryEdwards and others who have shared
> their
> > > experiences and suggested the synthetic oil and cooler.
> > >
> > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII - Ross HFB64 box.
> > >
> >
>

[Gregory OConnor]

Kurt your 95 has the S60. my 94pt40 has the 8V92 and no intercooler
it has a blower and turbo. the ps/fan resevoir is a big tank near
the fan motor. not sure how your bus is set up??
Greg

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt Horvath"
wrote:
>
> Gregg,
>
>
> So if I understand correctly the power steering is hooked up to
the
> fan hydraulic system. So this is all one system?
>
> The 42 `s radiators are stacked in order: Dash A/C condenser,
> Intercooler, Engine Radiator.
>
> On the PT-42 there is another smaller radiator between the main
> radiator and the rear wheels on the roadside, These are the
> hydraulic fan cooling radiators.
>
> I'm not sure where the reservoir is located.. Is there a
reservoir?
> Would the Radiator itself be the reservoir? I have no clue at this
> point.
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 Pt-42 WLWB
> |10AC
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
> wrote:
> >
> > on the 94pt steering pump is the fan pump and the fluids are
kept
> in
> > the fan fluid reservoir. oil cooler is large radiator infront
of
> > engine radiator
> >
> > GregoryO'Connor
> > 94ptRomolandCa--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt
> > Horvath" wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for that post Bob,
> > >
> > > I thought that I had all my fluids changed out on my last trip
to
> > the
> > > shop. I overlooked the hydraulic steering fluid, like you say
who
> > > knows how long that fluid has been in there, I have no records
of
> > > that.
> > >
> > > I have been working on the coach steering since day one and
while
> > > it's greatly improved, it could be better.
> > >
> > > A few questions need to be answered.
> > >
> > > On a `95 PT-42 is the hydraulic fluid in the steering box a
stand
> > > alone system, or is it tied into other systems? Does it have a
> > > cooler, I've never seen anything that looked like a cooler,
but
> > two
> > > weeks ago while under the coach I noticed a squirrel cage fan
and
> > > motor in the top rear of the generator doghouse, never noticed
it
> > > before. If not, does it need one? Are there any internal
> > adjustments
> > > in the steering box ?
> > >
> > > Any other inf. would be helpful.
> > >
> > > Kurt Horvath
> > > 95-PT-42 WLWB
> > > 10AC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Last week I changed the power steering hydraulic oil
> > from "whatever
> > > was
> > > > in there" to Redline synthetic power steering fluid. The
> > steering
> > > had
> > > > always balked and squawked in tight low-speed situations
like
> > > parking.
> > > > Well the second that synthetic fluid hit the system I could
> spin
> > > the
> > > > wheel stop-to-stop (on gravel) with little or no
resistance.
> > Looks
> > > > like synthetic is a winner!
> > > >
> > > > I also installed an oil cooler in the steering system.
> > Hopefully
> > > the
> > > > valve action will improve out on the road and hydraulic
noise
> > will
> > > be
> > > > reduced.
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks to David KerryEdwards and others who have shared
> > their
> > > > experiences and suggested the synthetic oil and cooler.
> > > >
> > > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII - Ross HFB64 box.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[Kurt Horvath]

Well I feel stupid. The big blue tank in my engine compartment is the
reservoir, I knew that, DUH! I was told this morning that it also has
3 filters in it and they need to be changed every few years. It takes
HD32 oil, As far adjusting the steering box on a 42 there is no real
adjustment available, my BB Guru did suggest a Safety-Plus for the
front end, mostly as a precaution for steer tire blow outs. I'm told
it will keep you on the road in that event, I'll have to check into
that. Does anyone have any thoughts on that idea?

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42 WLWB
10AC


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
wrote:
>
> Kurt your 95 has the S60. my 94pt40 has the 8V92 and no intercooler
> it has a blower and turbo. the ps/fan resevoir is a big tank near
> the fan motor. not sure how your bus is set up??
> Greg
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt Horvath"
> wrote:
> >
> > Gregg,
> >
> >
> > So if I understand correctly the power steering is hooked up to
> the
> > fan hydraulic system. So this is all one system?
> >
> > The 42 `s radiators are stacked in order: Dash A/C condenser,
> > Intercooler, Engine Radiator.
> >
> > On the PT-42 there is another smaller radiator between the main
> > radiator and the rear wheels on the roadside, These are the
> > hydraulic fan cooling radiators.
> >
> > I'm not sure where the reservoir is located.. Is there a
> reservoir?
> > Would the Radiator itself be the reservoir? I have no clue at
this
> > point.
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
> > 95 Pt-42 WLWB
> > |10AC
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > on the 94pt steering pump is the fan pump and the fluids are
> kept
> > in
> > > the fan fluid reservoir. oil cooler is large radiator infront
> of
> > > engine radiator
> > >
> > > GregoryO'Connor
> > > 94ptRomolandCa--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt
> > > Horvath" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for that post Bob,
> > > >
> > > > I thought that I had all my fluids changed out on my last
trip
> to
> > > the
> > > > shop. I overlooked the hydraulic steering fluid, like you say
> who
> > > > knows how long that fluid has been in there, I have no
records
> of
> > > > that.
> > > >
> > > > I have been working on the coach steering since day one and
> while
> > > > it's greatly improved, it could be better.
> > > >
> > > > A few questions need to be answered.
> > > >
> > > > On a `95 PT-42 is the hydraulic fluid in the steering box a
> stand
> > > > alone system, or is it tied into other systems? Does it have
a
> > > > cooler, I've never seen anything that looked like a cooler,
> but
> > > two
> > > > weeks ago while under the coach I noticed a squirrel cage fan
> and
> > > > motor in the top rear of the generator doghouse, never
noticed
> it
> > > > before. If not, does it need one? Are there any internal
> > > adjustments
> > > > in the steering box ?
> > > >
> > > > Any other inf. would be helpful.
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > 95-PT-42 WLWB
> > > > 10AC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Last week I changed the power steering hydraulic oil
> > > from "whatever
> > > > was
> > > > > in there" to Redline synthetic power steering fluid. The
> > > steering
> > > > had
> > > > > always balked and squawked in tight low-speed situations
> like
> > > > parking.
> > > > > Well the second that synthetic fluid hit the system I could
> > spin
> > > > the
> > > > > wheel stop-to-stop (on gravel) with little or no
> resistance.
> > > Looks
> > > > > like synthetic is a winner!
> > > > >
> > > > > I also installed an oil cooler in the steering system.
> > > Hopefully
> > > > the
> > > > > valve action will improve out on the road and hydraulic
> noise
> > > will
> > > > be
> > > > > reduced.
> > > > >
> > > > > Many thanks to David KerryEdwards and others who have
shared
> > > their
> > > > > experiences and suggested the synthetic oil and cooler.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII - Ross HFB64 box.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[mbulriss]

Kurt,

Interesting that yours specs a hydraulic fluid. I know my 83 and 91
and Leroy's 90, based on his recent post, spec multi-grade 10-30 motor
oil. I wonder why the difference?

By the way, the Parts Database and the Bluebird Filters & Belts Files
have part numbers for the reservoir filters.

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt Horvath"
wrote:
>
> Well I feel stupid. The big blue tank in my engine compartment is the
> reservoir, I knew that, DUH! I was told this morning that it also has
> 3 filters in it and they need to be changed every few years. It takes
> HD32 oil, As far adjusting the steering box on a 42 there is no real
> adjustment available, my BB Guru did suggest a Safety-Plus for the
> front end, mostly as a precaution for steer tire blow outs. I'm told
> it will keep you on the road in that event, I'll have to check into
> that. Does anyone have any thoughts on that idea?
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 PT-42 WLWB
> 10AC
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
> wrote:
> >
> > Kurt your 95 has the S60. my 94pt40 has the 8V92 and no intercooler
> > it has a blower and turbo. the ps/fan resevoir is a big tank near
> > the fan motor. not sure how your bus is set up??
> > Greg
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt Horvath"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Gregg,
> > >
> > >
> > > So if I understand correctly the power steering is hooked up to
> > the
> > > fan hydraulic system. So this is all one system?
> > >
> > > The 42 `s radiators are stacked in order: Dash A/C condenser,
> > > Intercooler, Engine Radiator.
> > >
> > > On the PT-42 there is another smaller radiator between the main
> > > radiator and the rear wheels on the roadside, These are the
> > > hydraulic fan cooling radiators.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure where the reservoir is located.. Is there a
> > reservoir?
> > > Would the Radiator itself be the reservoir? I have no clue at
> this
> > > point.
> > >
> > > Kurt Horvath
> > > 95 Pt-42 WLWB
> > > |10AC
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > on the 94pt steering pump is the fan pump and the fluids are
> > kept
> > > in
> > > > the fan fluid reservoir. oil cooler is large radiator infront
> > of
> > > > engine radiator
> > > >
> > > > GregoryO'Connor
> > > > 94ptRomolandCa--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt
> > > > Horvath" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for that post Bob,
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought that I had all my fluids changed out on my last
> trip
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > shop. I overlooked the hydraulic steering fluid, like you say
> > who
> > > > > knows how long that fluid has been in there, I have no
> records
> > of
> > > > > that.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been working on the coach steering since day one and
> > while
> > > > > it's greatly improved, it could be better.
> > > > >
> > > > > A few questions need to be answered.
> > > > >
> > > > > On a `95 PT-42 is the hydraulic fluid in the steering box a
> > stand
> > > > > alone system, or is it tied into other systems? Does it have
> a
> > > > > cooler, I've never seen anything that looked like a cooler,
> > but
> > > > two
> > > > > weeks ago while under the coach I noticed a squirrel cage fan
> > and
> > > > > motor in the top rear of the generator doghouse, never
> noticed
> > it
> > > > > before. If not, does it need one? Are there any internal
> > > > adjustments
> > > > > in the steering box ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Any other inf. would be helpful.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > > 95-PT-42 WLWB
> > > > > 10AC
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008"
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Last week I changed the power steering hydraulic oil
> > > > from "whatever
> > > > > was
> > > > > > in there" to Redline synthetic power steering fluid. The
> > > > steering
> > > > > had
> > > > > > always balked and squawked in tight low-speed situations
> > like
> > > > > parking.
> > > > > > Well the second that synthetic fluid hit the system I could
> > > spin
> > > > > the
> > > > > > wheel stop-to-stop (on gravel) with little or no
> > resistance.
> > > > Looks
> > > > > > like synthetic is a winner!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I also installed an oil cooler in the steering system.
> > > > Hopefully
> > > > > the
> > > > > > valve action will improve out on the road and hydraulic
> > noise
> > > > will
> > > > > be
> > > > > > reduced.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Many thanks to David KerryEdwards and others who have
> shared
> > > > their
> > > > > > experiences and suggested the synthetic oil and cooler.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII - Ross HFB64 box.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[freewill2008]

For the Ross box in our FC, the book shows a list of approved oils
including one type of 'power steering fluid', a couple of ATF types,
and 2 or 3 motor oils.

While researching available synthetic oils, I found that hydraulic
oil parameters include base viscosity (like 30W), multi-viscosity
additives, and detergent additives (or not).

Because several types of oil are listed for the Ross, my conclusion
is that the recommended oils all have similar specifications for
viscosity and additives.

Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA
(Who really does know that 'speaking' has ONE 'K'

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...>
wrote:
>
> Kurt,
>
> Interesting that yours specs a hydraulic fluid. I know my 83 and 91
> and Leroy's 90, based on his recent post, spec multi-grade 10-30
motor
> oil. I wonder why the difference?
>
> By the way, the Parts Database and the Bluebird Filters & Belts
Files
> have part numbers for the reservoir filters.
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt Horvath"
> wrote:
> >
> > Well I feel stupid. The big blue tank in my engine compartment is
the
> > reservoir, I knew that, DUH! I was told this morning that it also
has
> > 3 filters in it and they need to be changed every few years. It
takes
> > HD32 oil, As far adjusting the steering box on a 42 there is no
real
> > adjustment available, my BB Guru did suggest a Safety-Plus for
the
> > front end, mostly as a precaution for steer tire blow outs. I'm
told
> > it will keep you on the road in that event, I'll have to check
into
> > that. Does anyone have any thoughts on that idea?
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
> > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> > 10AC
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Kurt your 95 has the S60. my 94pt40 has the 8V92 and no
intercooler
> > > it has a blower and turbo. the ps/fan resevoir is a big tank
near
> > > the fan motor. not sure how your bus is set up??
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt Horvath"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Gregg,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So if I understand correctly the power steering is hooked up
to
> > > the
> > > > fan hydraulic system. So this is all one system?
> > > >
> > > > The 42 `s radiators are stacked in order: Dash A/C
condenser,
> > > > Intercooler, Engine Radiator.
> > > >
> > > > On the PT-42 there is another smaller radiator between the
main
> > > > radiator and the rear wheels on the roadside, These are the
> > > > hydraulic fan cooling radiators.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure where the reservoir is located.. Is there a
> > > reservoir?
> > > > Would the Radiator itself be the reservoir? I have no clue at
> > this
> > > > point.
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > 95 Pt-42 WLWB
> > > > |10AC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > on the 94pt steering pump is the fan pump and the fluids
are
> > > kept
> > > > in
> > > > > the fan fluid reservoir. oil cooler is large radiator
infront
> > > of
> > > > > engine radiator
> > > > >
> > > > > GregoryO'Connor
> > > > > 94ptRomolandCa--- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt
> > > > > Horvath" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for that post Bob,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I thought that I had all my fluids changed out on my last
> > trip
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > shop. I overlooked the hydraulic steering fluid, like you
say
> > > who
> > > > > > knows how long that fluid has been in there, I have no
> > records
> > > of
> > > > > > that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have been working on the coach steering since day one
and
> > > while
> > > > > > it's greatly improved, it could be better.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A few questions need to be answered.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On a `95 PT-42 is the hydraulic fluid in the steering box
a
> > > stand
> > > > > > alone system, or is it tied into other systems? Does it
have
> > a
> > > > > > cooler, I've never seen anything that looked like a
cooler,
> > > but
> > > > > two
> > > > > > weeks ago while under the coach I noticed a squirrel cage
fan
> > > and
> > > > > > motor in the top rear of the generator doghouse, never
> > noticed
> > > it
> > > > > > before. If not, does it need one? Are there any internal
> > > > > adjustments
> > > > > > in the steering box ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any other inf. would be helpful.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > > > 95-PT-42 WLWB
> > > > > > 10AC
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008"
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Last week I changed the power steering hydraulic oil
> > > > > from "whatever
> > > > > > was
> > > > > > > in there" to Redline synthetic power steering fluid.
The
> > > > > steering
> > > > > > had
> > > > > > > always balked and squawked in tight low-speed
situations
> > > like
> > > > > > parking.
> > > > > > > Well the second that synthetic fluid hit the system I
could
> > > > spin
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > wheel stop-to-stop (on gravel) with little or no
> > > resistance.
> > > > > Looks
> > > > > > > like synthetic is a winner!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I also installed an oil cooler in the steering system.
> > > > > Hopefully
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > valve action will improve out on the road and hydraulic
> > > noise
> > > > > will
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > reduced.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Many thanks to David KerryEdwards and others who have
> > shared
> > > > > their
> > > > > > > experiences and suggested the synthetic oil and cooler.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII - Ross HFB64 box.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[Leroy A. Eckert]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008"
wrote:

I have a Blue Ox TruCenter on the front end.
http://www.blueox.us/TruCenter/tru_center.html
Supposed to keep you on the road if a blow out occurs. I really don't
care to find out if it works. It is not a substitute for poor ball
joint connections.
My power steering and hydraulic fan spec's 10w-30 motor oil,
specifically, Texaco but cannot see that makes any difference. I know
that is the same on specific earlier and later models I have seen. I
would not know why yours is different.??? However, I would not call
the reservoir a steering box and I do not know the manufacturer of my
steering box. I doubt it would take a different oil but do not know.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
Dahlonega, GA
>
> For the Ross box in our FC, the book shows a list of approved oils
> including one type of 'power steering fluid', a couple of ATF types,
> and 2 or 3 motor oils.
>
> While researching available synthetic oils, I found that hydraulic
> oil parameters include base viscosity (like 30W), multi-viscosity
> additives, and detergent additives (or not).
>
> Because several types of oil are listed for the Ross, my conclusion
> is that the recommended oils all have similar specifications for
> viscosity and additives.
>
> Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA
> (Who really does know that 'speaking' has ONE 'K'
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Kurt,
> >
> > Interesting that yours specs a hydraulic fluid. I know my 83 and 91
> > and Leroy's 90, based on his recent post, spec multi-grade 10-30
> motor
> > oil. I wonder why the difference?
> >
> > By the way, the Parts Database and the Bluebird Filters & Belts
> Files
> > have part numbers for the reservoir filters.
> >
> > Mike Bulriss
> > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > San Antonio, TX
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt Horvath"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Well I feel stupid. The big blue tank in my engine compartment is
> the
> > > reservoir, I knew that, DUH! I was told this morning that it also
> has
> > > 3 filters in it and they need to be changed every few years. It
> takes
> > > HD32 oil, As far adjusting the steering box on a 42 there is no
> real
> > > adjustment available, my BB Guru did suggest a Safety-Plus for
> the
> > > front end, mostly as a precaution for steer tire blow outs. I'm
> told
> > > it will keep you on the road in that event, I'll have to check
> into
> > > that. Does anyone have any thoughts on that idea?
> > >
> > > Kurt Horvath
> > > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> > > 10AC
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Kurt your 95 has the S60. my 94pt40 has the 8V92 and no
> intercooler
> > > > it has a blower and turbo. the ps/fan resevoir is a big tank
> near
> > > > the fan motor. not sure how your bus is set up??
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt Horvath"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Gregg,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > So if I understand correctly the power steering is hooked up
> to
> > > > the
> > > > > fan hydraulic system. So this is all one system?
> > > > >
> > > > > The 42 `s radiators are stacked in order: Dash A/C
> condenser,
> > > > > Intercooler, Engine Radiator.
> > > > >
> > > > > On the PT-42 there is another smaller radiator between the
> main
> > > > > radiator and the rear wheels on the roadside, These are the
> > > > > hydraulic fan cooling radiators.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not sure where the reservoir is located.. Is there a
> > > > reservoir?
> > > > > Would the Radiator itself be the reservoir? I have no clue at
> > > this
> > > > > point.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > > 95 Pt-42 WLWB
> > > > > |10AC
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > on the 94pt steering pump is the fan pump and the fluids
> are
> > > > kept
> > > > > in
> > > > > > the fan fluid reservoir. oil cooler is large radiator
> infront
> > > > of
> > > > > > engine radiator
> > > > > >
> > > > > > GregoryO'Connor
> > > > > > 94ptRomolandCa--- In
> WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt
> > > > > > Horvath" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for that post Bob,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I thought that I had all my fluids changed out on my last
> > > trip
> > > > to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > shop. I overlooked the hydraulic steering fluid, like you
> say
> > > > who
> > > > > > > knows how long that fluid has been in there, I have no
> > > records
> > > > of
> > > > > > > that.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have been working on the coach steering since day one
> and
> > > > while
> > > > > > > it's greatly improved, it could be better.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A few questions need to be answered.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On a `95 PT-42 is the hydraulic fluid in the steering box
> a
> > > > stand
> > > > > > > alone system, or is it tied into other systems? Does it
> have
> > > a
> > > > > > > cooler, I've never seen anything that looked like a
> cooler,
> > > > but
> > > > > > two
> > > > > > > weeks ago while under the coach I noticed a squirrel cage
> fan
> > > > and
> > > > > > > motor in the top rear of the generator doghouse, never
> > > noticed
> > > > it
> > > > > > > before. If not, does it need one? Are there any internal
> > > > > > adjustments
> > > > > > > in the steering box ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any other inf. would be helpful.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > > > > 95-PT-42 WLWB
> > > > > > > 10AC
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "freewill2008"
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Last week I changed the power steering hydraulic oil
> > > > > > from "whatever
> > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > in there" to Redline synthetic power steering fluid.
> The
> > > > > > steering
> > > > > > > had
> > > > > > > > always balked and squawked in tight low-speed
> situations
> > > > like
> > > > > > > parking.
> > > > > > > > Well the second that synthetic fluid hit the system I
> could
> > > > > spin
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > wheel stop-to-stop (on gravel) with little or no
> > > > resistance.
> > > > > > Looks
> > > > > > > > like synthetic is a winner!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I also installed an oil cooler in the steering system.
> > > > > > Hopefully
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > valve action will improve out on the road and hydraulic
> > > > noise
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > reduced.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Many thanks to David KerryEdwards and others who have
> > > shared
> > > > > > their
> > > > > > > > experiences and suggested the synthetic oil and cooler.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII - Ross HFB64 box.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>