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Hisham & other PT 42 & 43 owners. A ? about your tire size
08-30-2008, 13:55
Post: #1
Hisham & other PT 42 & 43 owners. A ? about your tire size
Hisham

Your welcome,

I have a question for you. What size tires do you have on your PT-43,
& PT-42 owners? Trying to decide on new tires. I have a placard up on
the celing above the drivers poistion that states 315 75R 22.5 on
22.5 X 9 rims, and another plaqard in the bay the states 12R 22.5
The Michelin tire site has the rating for these tires and the 315's
has almost 3000 lbs more capacity.I haven't checked into all the
dimensions yet. I just wanted an informal survey on tire sizes for
these coaches. Presently I have the 12R 22.5's. I have a cut in a
stear tire and two others that are almost to the dreaded 5 year time
out. So 3 or 4 tires are in my future.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42
10AC


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Hisham Amaral
wrote:
>
> Kurt
>  
> I did add a file to the system, and thank you for the help.
>  
> Hisham
>
> --- On Fri, 8/29/08, Kurt Horvath wrote:
>
> From: Kurt Horvath
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Power Tech 15KW Motor & Blower
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 10:31 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hisham,
>
> It's easy just click on files on the left side of this page. When
the
> window opens on the right side down a few inches you'll see add
file,
> click on it. That will open to File name. hit the browse button
then
> choose what file you want to upload, for example you could place
the
> info in a word file. You can add a description, and notify the
group
> if you wish.
>
> The number from Graingers, "3M957 1/3 HP 230 V" has been
> discontinued. It has some cross refrenced motors, so I would make a
> note of that.
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 PT-42
> 10AC
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Hisham Amaral
> wrote:
> >
> > Kurt
> >  
> > How do put this info into a files section?
> > Hisham
> >
> > --- On Fri, 8/29/08, Kurt Horvath wrote:
> >
> > From: Kurt Horvath
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Power Tech 15KW Motor & Blower
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 8:40 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hishan,
> >
> > We should post this info in the files section for future refrence.
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
> > 95 PT-42 10AC
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Hisham Amaral
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Gregg
> > >
> > > I bought my 97 43' from Florida Last year. I found a bill the
> > previous owner paid for the Blower motor and the capacitor from
> > Grainger.
> > >  
> > > The motor part number is 3M957 1/3 HP 230 V  $83.90
> > > The Capacitor part number (5MFD 370 VAC) is 5M003  $3.70
> > >  
> > > Best of luck, Sorry this toke long to get you the information.
> > >  
> > > Hisham Amaral
> > > 97 WLWB 43'
> > > W. Bloomfield, MI.
> > >  
> > > --- On Fri, 8/29/08, Pete Masterson wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Pete Masterson
> > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Power Tech 15KW Motor & Blower
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 5:02 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > My squirrel cage fan failed last year. I removed the whole
> assembly
> > > and took it to an electric motor shop where I asked them to fix
> or
> > > replace the motor and rebalance the fan (look closely and
you'll
> > see
> > > little bits of metal bent around some of the blades in the
> squirrel
> > > cage). They found a replacement motor (as the OEM unit was long
> out
> > > of existence), installed it, checked the balance of the fan,
and
> > > painted everything. I reinstalled the assembly in my coach. I
> don't
> > > recall exactly what I paid (I'm on the road) but it was about
> $500
> > or
> > > so... about double what Tom McCarthy paid in So. CA. (Typical
SF
> > Bay
> > > Area prices, though...)
> > >
> > > Since you're in the middle of the country, you'll probably find
a
> > > more reasonable-priced vendor.
> > >
> > > Note: keep in mind that the motor is a 220 vac motor.... Also
be
> > sure
> > > to check the capacitors, if they should fail, it might seem
like
> > the
> > > motor is dead, when it is not.
> > >
> > > Pete Masterson
> > > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > > aeonix1@mac. com
> > > On the road at Idaho Springs, CO
> > >
> > > On Aug 28, 2008, at 10:05 PM, Gregg Kizer wrote:
> > >
> > > > Has any one replaced their Power Tech 15KW Motor & Blower
> > Assembly and
> > > > what Part Numbers and source were your findings. Cost
> > $$..etc..... .
> > > >
> > > > Would it be suggested to replace the whole assembly with
motor
> or
> > just
> > > > the motor only. I think I have the motor with a winding to
> ground
> > and
> > > > need at least a motor replacement. Is Grainger the place to
go?
> > Pro &
> > > > Cons of complete new assembly vs. just motor replacement from
> any
> > ones
> > > > experience in the generator problem department.. ...
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Gregg
> > > > 96 WLSD 42'
> > > > New Castle, IN
> > > > <snip>
> > >
> >
>
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08-30-2008, 15:15
Post: #2
Hisham & other PT 42 & 43 owners. A ? about your tire size

315-80R-22.5 LRJ
Fred & Jeanne Hulse
Morristown Arizona
1997 Wanderlodge WLWB41
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08-31-2008, 00:14
Post: #3
Hisham & other PT 42 & 43 owners. A ? about your tire size
Kurt
We have 315 80R22.5 Michelin's on our coach. They have about 10K miles on them with 3 years since new. At the rate we are traveling (9000 miles since Dec.) we may have to get a new set before 3-4 years.
Hisham & Sue Amaral
97 WLWB 43'
W. Bloomfield MI.


From: Kurt Horvath
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Hisham & other PT 42 & 43 owners. A ? about your tire size
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 9:55 PM


Hisham

Your welcome,

I have a question for you. What size tires do you have on your PT-43,
& PT-42 owners? Trying to decide on new tires. I have a placard up on
the celing above the drivers poistion that states 315 75R 22.5 on
22.5 X 9 rims, and another plaqard in the bay the states 12R 22.5
The Michelin tire site has the rating for these tires and the 315's
has almost 3000 lbs more capacity.I haven't checked into all the
dimensions yet. I just wanted an informal survey on tire sizes for
these coaches. Presently I have the 12R 22.5's. I have a cut in a
stear tire and two others that are almost to the dreaded 5 year time
out. So 3 or 4 tires are in my future.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42
10AC

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Hisham Amaral
wrote:
>
> Kurt

>
> I did add a file to the system, and thank you for the help.
>
> Hisham
>
> --- On Fri, 8/29/08, Kurt Horvath wrote:
>
> From: Kurt Horvath
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Power Tech 15KW Motor & Blower
> To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"
> Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 10:31 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hisham,
>
> It's easy just click on files on the left side of this page. When
the
> window opens on the right side down a few inches you'll see add
file,
> click on it. That will open to File name. hit the browse button
then
> choose what file you want to upload, for example you could place
the
> info in a word file. You can add a
description, and notify the
group
> if you wish.
>
> The number from Graingers, "3M957 1/3 HP 230 V" has been
> discontinued. It has some cross refrenced motors, so I would make a
> note of that.
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 PT-42
> 10AC
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Hisham Amaral
> wrote:
> >
> > Kurt
> >
> > How do put this info into a files section?
> > Hisham
> >
> > --- On Fri, 8/29/08, Kurt Horvath wrote:
> >
> > From: Kurt Horvath
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Power Tech 15KW Motor & Blower
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 8:40 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

> > Hishan,
> >
> > We should post this info in the files section for future refrence.
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
> > 95 PT-42 10AC
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Hisham Amaral
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Gregg
> > >
> > > I bought my 97 43' from Florida Last year. I found a bill the
> > previous owner paid for the Blower motor and the capacitor from
> > Grainger.
> > >
> > > The motor part number is 3M957 1/3 HP 230 V $83.90
> > > The Capacitor part number (5MFD 370 VAC)is 5M003 $3.70
> > >
> > > Best of luck, Sorry this toke long to get you the information.
> > >
> > > Hisham Amaral
> > > 97 WLWB 43'
> > > W. Bloomfield,
MI.
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 8/29/08, Pete Masterson wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Pete Masterson
> > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Power Tech 15KW Motor & Blower
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 5:02 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > My squirrel cage fan failed last year. I removed the whole
> assembly
> > > and took it to an electric motor shop where I asked them to fix
> or
> > > replace the motor and rebalance the fan (look closely and
you'll
> > see
> > > little bits of metal bent around some of the blades in the
> squirrel
> > > cage). They found a replacement motor (as the OEM unit was
long
> out
> > > of existence), installed it, checked the balance of the fan,
and
> > > painted everything. I reinstalled the assembly in my coach. I
> don't
> > > recall exactly what I paid (I'm on the road) but it was about
> $500
> > or
> > > so... about double what Tom McCarthy paid in So. CA. (Typical
SF
> > Bay
> > > Area prices, though...)
> > >
> > > Since you're in the middle of the country, you'll probably find
a
> > > more reasonable-priced vendor.
> > >
> > > Note: keep in mind that the motor is a 220 vac motor.... Also
be
> > sure
> > > to check the capacitors, if they should fail, it might seem
like
> > the
> > > motor is dead, when it is not.
> > >
> > > Pete Masterson
> >
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > > aeonix1@mac. com
> > > On the road at Idaho Springs, CO
> > >
> > > On Aug 28, 2008, at 10:05 PM, Gregg Kizer wrote:
> > >
> > > > Has any one replaced their Power Tech 15KW Motor & Blower
> > Assembly and
> > > > what Part Numbers and source were your findings. Cost
> > $$..etc..... .
> > > >
> > > > Would it be suggested to replace the whole assembly with
motor
> or
> > just
> > > > the motor only. I think I have the motor with a winding to
> ground
> > and
> > > > need at least a motor replacement. Is Grainger the place to
go?
> > Pro &
> > > > Cons of complete new assembly vs. just motor replacement from
> any
> > ones
> > > >
experience in the generator problem department.. ...
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Gregg
> > > > 96 WLSD 42'
> > > > New Castle, IN
> > > > <snip>
> > >
> >
>

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08-31-2008, 05:42
Post: #4
Hisham & other PT 42 & 43 owners. A ? about your tire size
I have 12R22.5 tires in all 8 positions. THe wheels on my coach are
8.5" wide.

315's offer an interesting upgrade possibility -- but the major
concern is spacing between the tires on the dual axle. If the tires
rub (at all) there is a significantly greater chance of a premature
failure.

The previous owner selected Toyo tires. Toyo has since quit offering
RV tires (but their "bus" tires work just fine). Apparently, some RV
manufacturers, using the Toyo tires had overloaded them, causing wear
and blowout problems. (But the garbage came back to haunt Toyo, not
the mfg. where the real responsibility lay.)

I recently priced some Sumitomo tires at J&O Tire in Richmond, CA.
Their price was competitive with Les Schawab who provided a
replacement for one tire that had been ruined by misalignment (and
wear) in the front end. (My tag axle tires are looking just a bit
rough from wear caused by the inescapable dragging they encounter.)

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at



On Aug 30, 2008, at 7:55 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote:

> Hisham
>
> Your welcome,
>
> I have a question for you. What size tires do you have on your PT-43,
> & PT-42 owners? Trying to decide on new tires. I have a placard up on
> the celing above the drivers poistion that states 315 75R 22.5 on
> 22.5 X 9 rims, and another plaqard in the bay the states 12R 22.5
> The Michelin tire site has the rating for these tires and the 315's
> has almost 3000 lbs more capacity.I haven't checked into all the
> dimensions yet. I just wanted an informal survey on tire sizes for
> these coaches. Presently I have the 12R 22.5's. I have a cut in a
> stear tire and two others that are almost to the dreaded 5 year time
> out. So 3 or 4 tires are in my future.
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 PT-42
> 10AC
> <snip>
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08-31-2008, 13:27
Post: #5
Hisham & other PT 42 & 43 owners. A ? about your tire size
Pete and Kurt,

I upgraded to Michelin 315 80R22.5's in the spring and have just
completed a trip to Montana and back with them. Ride was incredibly
smoother and quieter. I've checked for rubbing and also checked tire
temps several times. They are not rubbing- but are about 1" apart when
the tag axle is dumped. If the tag is aired-up, they have about 1-1/2
inches between them. So far, we've traveled 6500 miles with no adverse
results and a much smoother ride. I have absolutely no reservations
about running them on the steer axle- the drive caused me some
concern, but so far, it has been unwarranted. Try them on the steer
first and see how you like them.

Shane Fedeli
1985 PT40
Hershey, PA

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> I have 12R22.5 tires in all 8 positions. THe wheels on my coach are
> 8.5" wide.
>
> 315's offer an interesting upgrade possibility -- but the major
> concern is spacing between the tires on the dual axle. If the tires
> rub (at all) there is a significantly greater chance of a premature
> failure.
>
> The previous owner selected Toyo tires. Toyo has since quit offering
> RV tires (but their "bus" tires work just fine). Apparently, some RV
> manufacturers, using the Toyo tires had overloaded them, causing wear
> and blowout problems. (But the garbage came back to haunt Toyo, not
> the mfg. where the real responsibility lay.)
>
> I recently priced some Sumitomo tires at J&O Tire in Richmond, CA.
> Their price was competitive with Les Schawab who provided a
> replacement for one tire that had been ruined by misalignment (and
> wear) in the front end. (My tag axle tires are looking just a bit
> rough from wear caused by the inescapable dragging they encounter.)
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> aeonix1@...
> On the road at
>
>
>
> On Aug 30, 2008, at 7:55 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote:
>
> > Hisham
> >
> > Your welcome,
> >
> > I have a question for you. What size tires do you have on your PT-43,
> > & PT-42 owners? Trying to decide on new tires. I have a placard up on
> > the celing above the drivers poistion that states 315 75R 22.5 on
> > 22.5 X 9 rims, and another plaqard in the bay the states 12R 22.5
> > The Michelin tire site has the rating for these tires and the 315's
> > has almost 3000 lbs more capacity.I haven't checked into all the
> > dimensions yet. I just wanted an informal survey on tire sizes for
> > these coaches. Presently I have the 12R 22.5's. I have a cut in a
> > stear tire and two others that are almost to the dreaded 5 year time
> > out. So 3 or 4 tires are in my future.
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
> > 95 PT-42
> > 10AC
> > <snip>
>
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08-31-2008, 17:03
Post: #6
Hisham & other PT 42 & 43 owners. A ? about your tire size
We have been running Sumitomo 315 80R22.5 since 11-04. I put about
40k miles on them. There is no problem with the clearances between
tires on the drive axle. The only problem I have ever had been when I
attempted to back up a steep driveway while cutting the wheels hard to
the right. That cause a lot of weight to be transferred to the left
front tire. I thought I might have heard rubber rubbing on something.
No visible damage on anything. (Come to think about it, it might
have been the event that could have cracked my upper left shock
mount.) In any case the tires operated fine for the last four
years...until last month.

Last month my coach started pulling to the right. I took the coach
into shop specializing in motor home alignments last week. They found
the alignment is just fine. The (knowledgeable) shop owner believes I
have a shifted belt in one of my front tires that is causing the
tracking problem. In a week or so I am going to move two tires off
one side of my drive axle to he front end to test the theory.

Point is: The 315s' are fine. I use to think the Sumitomos' were
great. They rode nicely and were quiet. If the theory of shifted
belts on my front tires is right I have to give a thumbs down on a
recommendation of Sumitomos'

Eric Perplies
96' 42' WBWL
currently outside Ft. Wayne, IN
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