Water Pumps & Holding Tanks

[Kurt Horvath]

I started the re-build on the water pumps today. I'm happy one of the
pumps failed. What a mess, I'll post before and after shots when I
get it finished. I have reduced the number on elbows by 80%. That
should greatly increase the pumps efficiency.

I took the metal cover off the curb side tank bay just to make sure
all the pushing and pulling on the pipes didn't loosen anything. Well
of course that just presented more opportunities to fix and upgrade.

The water filter was the first thing that jumped out at me, I will
take it out and backwash the filter. I would like to replace it. I'm
sure it's original equipment = 13 + years old. The thing I don't know
anything about is the little pressure regulator or whatever it is,
mounted to the top of the filter. Obviously it increases or decrease
pressure but to what end? Also the water pipes are routed to and
looped around it, so I'm guessing this filters water to a specific
place. Does anyone know to where?

I would like to install a gray water tank over flow pipe. Last year I
ran a load of laundry and went to breakfast with some friends, a
short time latter a call on the cell and my neighbor was telling me
that the coach was leaking. I ask from where and he responded with
EVERYWHERE! Well anyway no permanent damage. I thought of dumping the
Slendide washer/dryer, but I like it. So I never have that problem
again a grey water tank over flow pipe is in the future. I'm sure
someone will chime in with the perils of dumping greywater on the
ground. That's not my intention, my intention is to never fill the
interior of my coach with gray water again.

Kurt Horvath
95-PT 42 WLWB
10AC

[Leroy Eckert]

Your coach is much newer than mine. That said, that little regulator you are talking about on the filter could be the air regulator for the winterizing blow out system. Better check it out closely. You screw that up, a check valve goes bad and it can load up water in the aux air system. You don't even want that to happen and I assure you will not like the result.. I am serious. Be careful with that deal and trace the lines down before doing mods. Mine has an additional ball valve added to prevent the problem. My Splendide dumps into the black tank. The best thing that could ever happen to a black tank. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors Danlonega, GA Royale Conversion --- On Wed, 9/10/08, Kurt Horvath wrote: From: Kurt Horvath Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Pumps & Holding Tanks To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 10:18 PM I started the re-build on the water pumps today. I'm happy one of the pumps failed. What a mess, I'll post before and after shots when I get it finished. I have reduced the number on elbows by 80%. That should greatly increase the pumps efficiency. I took the metal cover off the curb side tank bay just to make sure all the pushing and pulling on the pipes didn't loosen anything. Well of course that just presented more opportunities to fix and upgrade. The water filter was the first thing that jumped out at me, I will take it out and backwash the filter. I would like to replace it. I'm sure it's original equipment = 13 + years old. The thing I don't know anything about is the little pressure regulator or whatever it is, mounted to the top of the filter. Obviously it increases or decrease pressure but to what end? Also the water pipes are routed to and looped around it, so I'm guessing this filters water to a specific place. Does anyone know to where? I would like to install a gray water tank over flow pipe. Last year I ran a load of laundry and went to breakfast with some friends, a short time latter a call on the cell and my neighbor was telling me that the coach was leaking. I ask from where and he responded with EVERYWHERE! Well anyway no permanent damage. I thought of dumping the Slendide washer/dryer, but I like it. So I never have that problem again a grey water tank over flow pipe is in the future. I'm sure someone will chime in with the perils of dumping greywater on the ground. That's not my intention, my intention is to never fill the interior of my coach with gray water again. Kurt Horvath 95-PT 42 WLWB 10AC

[Kurt Horvath]

Leroy,

I posted a picture of the regulator in question. Let me know what you
think.

Jay Darst, sorry somehow I manged to post my picture in your album
and I couldn't delet it :{

kurt Horvath
95 PT-42
10AC

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Leroy Eckert
wrote:
>
> Your coach is much newer than mine. That said, that little
regulator you are talking about on the filter could be the air
regulator for the winterizing blow out system. Better check it out
closely. You screw that up, a check valve goes bad and it can load up
water in the aux air system. You don't even want that to happen and I
assure you will not like the result.. I am serious. Be careful with
that deal and trace the lines down before doing mods. Mine has an
additional ball valve added to prevent the problem.
> My Splendide dumps into the black tank. The best thing that could
ever happen to a black tank.
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> Danlonega, GA
> Royale Conversion
>
> --- On Wed, 9/10/08, Kurt Horvath wrote:
> From: Kurt Horvath
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Pumps & Holding Tanks
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 10:18 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I started the re-build on the water pumps today. I'm
happy one of the
>
> pumps failed. What a mess, I'll post before and after shots when I
>
> get it finished. I have reduced the number on elbows by 80%. That
>
> should greatly increase the pumps efficiency.
>
>
>
> I took the metal cover off the curb side tank bay just to make sure
>
> all the pushing and pulling on the pipes didn't loosen anything.
Well
>
> of course that just presented more opportunities to fix and upgrade.
>
>
>
> The water filter was the first thing that jumped out at me, I will
>
> take it out and backwash the filter. I would like to replace it.
I'm
>
> sure it's original equipment = 13 + years old. The thing I don't
know
>
> anything about is the little pressure regulator or whatever it is,
>
> mounted to the top of the filter. Obviously it increases or
decrease
>
> pressure but to what end? Also the water pipes are routed to and
>
> looped around it, so I'm guessing this filters water to a specific
>
> place. Does anyone know to where?
>
>
>
> I would like to install a gray water tank over flow pipe. Last year
I
>
> ran a load of laundry and went to breakfast with some friends, a
>
> short time latter a call on the cell and my neighbor was telling me
>
> that the coach was leaking. I ask from where and he responded with
>
> EVERYWHERE! Well anyway no permanent damage. I thought of dumping
the
>
> Slendide washer/dryer, but I like it. So I never have that problem
>
> again a grey water tank over flow pipe is in the future. I'm sure
>
> someone will chime in with the perils of dumping greywater on the
>
> ground. That's not my intention, my intention is to never fill the
>
> interior of my coach with gray water again.
>
>
>
> Kurt Horvath
>
> 95-PT 42 WLWB
>
> 10AC
>

[Steve Quandt]

Kurt

I happen to have my coach at home, just
checked and the regulator on mine is for the air supply to blow clear for
winter. I agree with Leroy, watch what you do there!!

Steve Quandt

Iron Mountain, MI

1993 PT-40

-----Original Message-----

From:
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Leroy Eckert

Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008
9:56 PM

To:
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum]
Water Pumps & Holding Tanks

Your coach is much newer than mine. That said, that little regulator you are talking about on the filter could be the air regulator for the winterizing blow out system. Better check it out closely. You screw that up, a check valve goes bad and it can load up water in the aux air system. You don't even want that to happen and I assure you will not like the result.. I am serious. Be careful with that deal and trace the lines down before doing mods. Mine has an additional ball valve added to prevent the problem. My Splendide dumps into the black tank. The best thing that could ever happen to a black tank. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors Danlonega, GA Royale Conversion --- On Wed, 9/10/08, Kurt Horvath yahoo.com> wrote: From: Kurt Horvath yahoo.com> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Pumps & Holding Tanks To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 10:18 PM I started the re-build on the water pumps today. I'm happy one of the pumps failed. What a mess, I'll post before and after shots when I get it finished. I have reduced the number on elbows by 80%. That should greatly increase the pumps efficiency. I took the metal cover off the curb side tank bay just to make sure all the pushing and pulling on the pipes didn't loosen anything. Well of course that just presented more opportunities to fix and upgrade. The water filter was the first thing that jumped out at me, I will take it out and backwash the filter. I would like to replace it. I'm sure it's original equipment = 13 + years old. The thing I don't know anything about is the little pressure regulator or whatever it is, mounted to the top of the filter. Obviously it increases or decrease pressure but to what end? Also the water pipes are routed to and looped around it, so I'm guessing this filters water to a specific place. Does anyone know to where? I would like to install a gray water tank over flow pipe. Last year I ran a load of laundry and went to breakfast with some friends, a short time latter a call on the cell and my neighbor was telling me that the coach was leaking. I ask from where and he responded with EVERYWHERE! Well anyway no permanent damage. I thought of dumping the Slendide washer/dryer, but I like it. So I never have that problem again a grey water tank over flow pipe is in the future. I'm sure someone will chime in with the perils of dumping greywater on the ground. That's not my intention, my intention is to never fill the interior of my coach with gray water again. Kurt Horvath 95-PT 42 WLWB 10AC

[Steve Quandt]

Kurt

My filter and regulator are under the bed
on my 1993 but it looks similar to yours, the small black line to the regulator
should be from your air system to blow clear for winter.

Steve Quandt

Iron Mountain, MI

1993 PT-40

-----Original Message-----

From:
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Horvath

Sent: Wednesday, September 10,
2008 10:11 PM

To:
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re:
Water Pumps & Holding Tanks

Leroy,



I posted a picture of the regulator in question. Let me know what you

think.



Jay Darst, sorry somehow I manged to post my picture in your album

and I couldn't delet it :{



kurt Horvath

95 PT-42

10AC



--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",
Leroy Eckert

...> wrote:

>

> Your coach is much newer than mine. That said, that little

regulator you are talking about on the filter could be the air

regulator for the winterizing blow out system. Better check it out

closely. You screw that up, a check valve goes bad and it can load up

water in the aux air system. You don't even want that to happen and I

assure you will not like the result.. I am serious. Be careful with

that deal and trace the lines down before doing mods. Mine has an

additional ball valve added to prevent the problem.

> My Splendide dumps into the black tank. The best thing that could

ever happen to a black tank.

> Leroy Eckert

> 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors

> Danlonega, GA

> Royale Conversion

>

> --- On Wed, 9/10/08, Kurt Horvath ...> wrote:

> From: Kurt Horvath ...>

> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Pumps & Holding Tanks

> To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"

> Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 10:18 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> I started the re-build on the water pumps today. I'm

happy one of the

>

> pumps failed. What a mess, I'll post before and after shots when I

>

> get it finished. I have reduced the number on elbows by 80%. That

>

> should greatly increase the pumps efficiency.

>

>

>

> I took the metal cover off the curb side tank bay just to make sure

>

> all the pushing and pulling on the pipes didn't loosen anything.

Well

>

> of course that just presented more opportunities to fix and upgrade.

>

>

>

> The water filter was the first thing that jumped out at me, I will

>

> take it out and backwash the filter. I would like to replace it.

I'm

>

> sure it's original equipment = 13 + years old. The thing I don't

know

>

> anything about is the little pressure regulator or whatever it is,

>

> mounted to the top of the filter. Obviously it increases or

decrease

>

> pressure but to what end? Also the water pipes are routed to and

>

> looped around it, so I'm guessing this filters water to a specific

>

> place. Does anyone know to where?

>

>

>

> I would like to install a gray water tank over flow pipe. Last year

I

>

> ran a load of laundry and went to breakfast with some friends, a

>

> short time latter a call on the cell and my neighbor was telling me

>

> that the coach was leaking. I ask from where and he responded with

>

> EVERYWHERE! Well anyway no permanent damage. I thought of dumping

the

>

> Slendide washer/dryer, but I like it. So I never have that problem

>

> again a grey water tank over flow pipe is in the future. I'm sure

>

> someone will chime in with the perils of dumping greywater on the

>

> ground. That's not my intention, my intention is to never fill the

>

> interior of my coach with gray water again.

>

>

>

> Kurt Horvath

>

> 95-PT 42 WLWB

>

> 10AC

>

[Leroy Eckert]

Where is the picture. My regulator looks like one on a standard air compressor used to adjust the air exiting the hose. I am going to do a post on this issue. The purge air system is a weak link in all BB's with winterization blow out systems. Be careful, you can create yourself one hell of a problem. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors Dahlonega, GA Royale Conversion --- On Wed, 9/10/08, Kurt Horvath wrote: From: Kurt Horvath Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Water Pumps & Holding Tanks To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 11:11 PM Leroy, I posted a picture of the regulator in question. Let me know what you think. Jay Darst, sorry somehow I manged to post my picture in your album and I couldn't delet it :{ kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 10AC --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Leroy Eckert wrote: > > Your coach is much newer than mine. That said, that little regulator you are talking about on the filter could be the air regulator for the winterizing blow out system. Better check it out closely. You screw that up, a check valve goes bad and it can load up water in the aux air system. You don't even want that to happen and I assure you will not like the result.. I am serious. Be careful with that deal and trace the lines down before doing mods. Mine has an additional ball valve added to prevent the problem. > My Splendide dumps into the black tank. The best thing that could ever happen to a black tank. > Leroy Eckert > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors > Danlonega, GA > Royale Conversion > > --- On Wed, 9/10/08, Kurt Horvath wrote: > From: Kurt Horvath > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Pumps & Holding Tanks > To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com" > Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 10:18 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > I started the re-build on the water pumps today. I'm happy one of the > > pumps failed. What a mess, I'll post before and after shots when I > > get it finished. I have reduced the number on elbows by 80%. That > > should greatly increase the pumps efficiency. > > > > I took the metal cover off the curb side tank bay just to make sure > > all the pushing and pulling on the pipes didn't loosen anything. Well > > of course that just presented more opportunities to fix and upgrade. > > > > The water filter was the first thing that jumped out at me, I will > > take it out and backwash the filter. I would like to replace it. I'm > > sure it's original equipment = 13 + years old. The thing I don't know > > anything about is the little pressure regulator or whatever it is, > > mounted to the top of the filter. Obviously it increases or decrease > > pressure but to what end? Also the water pipes are routed to and > > looped around it, so I'm guessing this filters water to a specific > > place. Does anyone know to where? > > > > I would like to install a gray water tank over flow pipe. Last year I > > ran a load of laundry and went to breakfast with some friends, a > > short time latter a call on the cell and my neighbor was telling me > > that the coach was leaking. I ask from where and he responded with > > EVERYWHERE! Well anyway no permanent damage. I thought of dumping the > > Slendide washer/dryer, but I like it. So I never have that problem > > again a grey water tank over flow pipe is in the future. I'm sure > > someone will chime in with the perils of dumping greywater on the > > ground. That's not my intention, my intention is to never fill the > > interior of my coach with gray water again. > > > > Kurt Horvath > > 95-PT 42 WLWB > > 10AC >

[Kurt Horvath]

Thanks Guys,

I think your right, It could be a real problem if water flowed into
the airlines and tanks. I would imagine that a failure in the valve
would cause an unsafe condition. In my case the pumps are always on,
but the air system is not always charged, I see where a back flow of
water would mess up the mix.
Would it be advisable to unhook the air line and plug it?
I never winterize my coach she's plugged in and heated, we try to run
year round.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42
10AC


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Leroy Eckert
wrote:
>
> Where is the picture. My regulator looks like one on a standard air
compressor used to adjust the air exiting the hose.
> I am going to do a post on this issue. The purge air system is a
weak link in all BB's with winterization blow out systems. Be
careful, you can create yourself one hell of a problem.
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> Dahlonega, GA
> Royale Conversion
>
> --- On Wed, 9/10/08, Kurt Horvath wrote:
> From: Kurt Horvath
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Water Pumps & Holding Tanks
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 11:11 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Leroy,
>
>
>
> I posted a picture of the regulator in question. Let me know what
you
>
> think.
>
>
>
> Jay Darst, sorry somehow I manged to post my picture in your album
>
> and I couldn't delet it :{
>
>
>
> kurt Horvath
>
> 95 PT-42
>
> 10AC
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Leroy Eckert
>
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Your coach is much newer than mine. That said, that little
>
> regulator you are talking about on the filter could be the air
>
> regulator for the winterizing blow out system. Better check it out
>
> closely. You screw that up, a check valve goes bad and it can load
up
>
> water in the aux air system. You don't even want that to happen and
I
>
> assure you will not like the result.. I am serious. Be careful with
>
> that deal and trace the lines down before doing mods. Mine has an
>
> additional ball valve added to prevent the problem.
>
> > My Splendide dumps into the black tank. The best thing that
could
>
> ever happen to a black tank.
>
> > Leroy Eckert
>
> > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
>
> > Danlonega, GA
>
> > Royale Conversion
>
> >
>
> > --- On Wed, 9/10/08, Kurt Horvath wrote:
>
> > From: Kurt Horvath
>
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Pumps & Holding Tanks
>
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
>
> > Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 10:18 PM
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I started the re-build on the water pumps today. I'm
>
> happy one of the
>
> >
>
> > pumps failed. What a mess, I'll post before and after shots when
I
>
> >
>
> > get it finished. I have reduced the number on elbows by 80%.
That
>
> >
>
> > should greatly increase the pumps efficiency.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I took the metal cover off the curb side tank bay just to make
sure
>
> >
>
> > all the pushing and pulling on the pipes didn't loosen anything.
>
> Well
>
> >
>
> > of course that just presented more opportunities to fix and
upgrade.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > The water filter was the first thing that jumped out at me, I
will
>
> >
>
> > take it out and backwash the filter. I would like to replace it.
>
> I'm
>
> >
>
> > sure it's original equipment = 13 + years old. The thing I don't
>
> know
>
> >
>
> > anything about is the little pressure regulator or whatever it
is,
>
> >
>
> > mounted to the top of the filter. Obviously it increases or
>
> decrease
>
> >
>
> > pressure but to what end? Also the water pipes are routed to and
>
> >
>
> > looped around it, so I'm guessing this filters water to a
specific
>
> >
>
> > place. Does anyone know to where?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I would like to install a gray water tank over flow pipe. Last
year
>
> I
>
> >
>
> > ran a load of laundry and went to breakfast with some friends, a
>
> >
>
> > short time latter a call on the cell and my neighbor was telling
me
>
> >
>
> > that the coach was leaking. I ask from where and he responded
with
>
> >
>
> > EVERYWHERE! Well anyway no permanent damage. I thought of dumping
>
> the
>
> >
>
> > Slendide washer/dryer, but I like it. So I never have that
problem
>
> >
>
> > again a grey water tank over flow pipe is in the future. I'm sure
>
> >
>
> > someone will chime in with the perils of dumping greywater on the
>
> >
>
> > ground. That's not my intention, my intention is to never fill
the
>
> >
>
> > interior of my coach with gray water again.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Kurt Horvath
>
> >
>
> > 95-PT 42 WLWB
>
> >
>
> > 10AC
>
> >
>

[Kurt Horvath]

Leroy the picture is on the home page, click on the new photos. I'm
sure your description is correct. The regulator has air line tubing &
quick connect fittings just like the Firestone airbag system on my F-
350

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42
10AC

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt Horvath"
wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Guys,
>
> I think your right, It could be a real problem if water flowed into
> the airlines and tanks. I would imagine that a failure in the valve
> would cause an unsafe condition. In my case the pumps are always
on,
> but the air system is not always charged, I see where a back flow
of
> water would mess up the mix.
> Would it be advisable to unhook the air line and plug it?
> I never winterize my coach she's plugged in and heated, we try to
run
> year round.
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 PT-42
> 10AC
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Leroy Eckert
> wrote:
> >
> > Where is the picture. My regulator looks like one on a standard
air
> compressor used to adjust the air exiting the hose.
> > I am going to do a post on this issue. The purge air system is a
> weak link in all BB's with winterization blow out systems. Be
> careful, you can create yourself one hell of a problem.
> > Leroy Eckert
> > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> > Dahlonega, GA
> > Royale Conversion
> >
> > --- On Wed, 9/10/08, Kurt Horvath wrote:
> > From: Kurt Horvath
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Water Pumps & Holding Tanks
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 11:11 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Leroy,
> >
> >
> >
> > I posted a picture of the regulator in question. Let me know what
> you
> >
> > think.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jay Darst, sorry somehow I manged to post my picture in your
album
> >
> > and I couldn't delet it :{
> >
> >
> >
> > kurt Horvath
> >
> > 95 PT-42
> >
> > 10AC
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Leroy Eckert
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Your coach is much newer than mine. That said, that little
> >
> > regulator you are talking about on the filter could be the air
> >
> > regulator for the winterizing blow out system. Better check it
out
> >
> > closely. You screw that up, a check valve goes bad and it can
load
> up
> >
> > water in the aux air system. You don't even want that to happen
and
> I
> >
> > assure you will not like the result.. I am serious. Be careful
with
> >
> > that deal and trace the lines down before doing mods. Mine has an
> >
> > additional ball valve added to prevent the problem.
> >
> > > My Splendide dumps into the black tank. The best thing that
> could
> >
> > ever happen to a black tank.
> >
> > > Leroy Eckert
> >
> > > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> >
> > > Danlonega, GA
> >
> > > Royale Conversion
> >
> > >
> >
> > > --- On Wed, 9/10/08, Kurt Horvath wrote:
> >
> > > From: Kurt Horvath
> >
> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Pumps & Holding Tanks
> >
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
> >
> > > Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 10:18 PM
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I started the re-build on the water pumps today.
I'm
> >
> > happy one of the
> >
> > >
> >
> > > pumps failed. What a mess, I'll post before and after shots
when
> I
> >
> > >
> >
> > > get it finished. I have reduced the number on elbows by 80%.
> That
> >
> > >
> >
> > > should greatly increase the pumps efficiency.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I took the metal cover off the curb side tank bay just to make
> sure
> >
> > >
> >
> > > all the pushing and pulling on the pipes didn't loosen
anything.
> >
> > Well
> >
> > >
> >
> > > of course that just presented more opportunities to fix and
> upgrade.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > The water filter was the first thing that jumped out at me, I
> will
> >
> > >
> >
> > > take it out and backwash the filter. I would like to replace
it.
> >
> > I'm
> >
> > >
> >
> > > sure it's original equipment = 13 + years old. The thing I
don't
> >
> > know
> >
> > >
> >
> > > anything about is the little pressure regulator or whatever it
> is,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > mounted to the top of the filter. Obviously it increases or
> >
> > decrease
> >
> > >
> >
> > > pressure but to what end? Also the water pipes are routed to
and
> >
> > >
> >
> > > looped around it, so I'm guessing this filters water to a
> specific
> >
> > >
> >
> > > place. Does anyone know to where?
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I would like to install a gray water tank over flow pipe. Last
> year
> >
> > I
> >
> > >
> >
> > > ran a load of laundry and went to breakfast with some friends,
a
> >
> > >
> >
> > > short time latter a call on the cell and my neighbor was
telling
> me
> >
> > >
> >
> > > that the coach was leaking. I ask from where and he responded
> with
> >
> > >
> >
> > > EVERYWHERE! Well anyway no permanent damage. I thought of
dumping
> >
> > the
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Slendide washer/dryer, but I like it. So I never have that
> problem
> >
> > >
> >
> > > again a grey water tank over flow pipe is in the future. I'm
sure
> >
> > >
> >
> > > someone will chime in with the perils of dumping greywater on
the
> >
> > >
> >
> > > ground. That's not my intention, my intention is to never fill
> the
> >
> > >
> >
> > > interior of my coach with gray water again.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Kurt Horvath
> >
> > >
> >
> > > 95-PT 42 WLWB
> >
> > >
> >
> > > 10AC
> >
> > >
> >
>

[Leroy Eckert]

The way the system works is this. Air is introduced into the water system to blow out excess water for winterization. There should be a check valve near the regulator which prevents water from back flowing into the aux air system. In most coaches that air system includes the air horns, air step , air bags, driving lights, aux air pump, bulk oil fill, fresh air vent system and who knows what else. This check valve is a serious weak link in BB's. If air can be introduced into the water system to blow it out, water can be introduced into the aux air system in the event of a check valve failure. The check valve is the only line of defense. The air regulator will not prevent water back flow and neither will the purge air switch. There are a couple of choices. Disconnect the air purge system at the purifier or water filter where ever it is installed and plug it or install a ball valve above the check valve which separates water and air and keep it shut off unless used for winterization. Everyone who has this system needs to do one or the other. Leaving it the way it is is not an option in my opinion. I have installed a ball valve. It is cheap and easy and leaves the original system intact. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors Dahlonega, GA Royale Conversion --- On Wed, 9/10/08, Kurt Horvath wrote: From: Kurt Horvath Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Water Pumps & Holding Tanks To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 11:48 PM Thanks Guys, I think your right, It could be a real problem if water flowed into the airlines and tanks. I would imagine that a failure in the valve would cause an unsafe condition. In my case the pumps are always on, but the air system is not always charged, I see where a back flow of water would mess up the mix. Would it be advisable to unhook the air line and plug it? I never winterize my coach she's plugged in and heated, we try to run year round. Kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 10AC --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Leroy Eckert wrote: > > Where is the picture. My regulator looks like one on a standard air compressor used to adjust the air exiting the hose. > I am going to do a post on this issue. The purge air system is a weak link in all BB's with winterization blow out systems. Be careful, you can create yourself one hell of a problem. > Leroy Eckert > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors > Dahlonega, GA > Royale Conversion > > --- On Wed, 9/10/08, Kurt Horvath wrote: > From: Kurt Horvath > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Water Pumps & Holding Tanks > To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com" > Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 11:11 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Leroy, > > > > I posted a picture of the regulator in question. Let me know what you > > think. > > > > Jay Darst, sorry somehow I manged to post my picture in your album > > and I couldn't delet it :{ > > > > kurt Horvath > > 95 PT-42 > > 10AC > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Leroy Eckert > > wrote: > > > > > > Your coach is much newer than mine. That said, that little > > regulator you are talking about on the filter could be the air > > regulator for the winterizing blow out system. Better check it out > > closely. You screw that up, a check valve goes bad and it can load up > > water in the aux air system. You don't even want that to happen and I > > assure you will not like the result.. I am serious. Be careful with > > that deal and trace the lines down before doing mods. Mine has an > > additional ball valve added to prevent the problem. > > > My Splendide dumps into the black tank. The best thing that could > > ever happen to a black tank. > > > Leroy Eckert > > > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors > > > Danlonega, GA > > > Royale Conversion > > > > > > --- On Wed, 9/10/08, Kurt Horvath wrote: > > > From: Kurt Horvath > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Pumps & Holding Tanks > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com > > > Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 10:18 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I started the re-build on the water pumps today. I'm > > happy one of the > > > > > > pumps failed. What a mess, I'll post before and after shots when I > > > > > > get it finished. I have reduced the number on elbows by 80%. That > > > > > > should greatly increase the pumps efficiency. > > > > > > > > > > > > I took the metal cover off the curb side tank bay just to make sure > > > > > > all the pushing and pulling on the pipes didn't loosen anything. > > Well > > > > > > of course that just presented more opportunities to fix and upgrade. > > > > > > > > > > > > The water filter was the first thing that jumped out at me, I will > > > > > > take it out and backwash the filter. I would like to replace it. > > I'm > > > > > > sure it's original equipment = 13 + years old. The thing I don't > > know > > > > > > anything about is the little pressure regulator or whatever it is, > > > > > > mounted to the top of the filter. Obviously it increases or > > decrease > > > > > > pressure but to what end? Also the water pipes are routed to and > > > > > > looped around it, so I'm guessing this filters water to a specific > > > > > > place. Does anyone know to where? > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to install a gray water tank over flow pipe. Last year > > I > > > > > > ran a load of laundry and went to breakfast with some friends, a > > > > > > short time latter a call on the cell and my neighbor was telling me > > > > > > that the coach was leaking. I ask from where and he responded with > > > > > > EVERYWHERE! Well anyway no permanent damage. I thought of dumping > > the > > > > > > Slendide washer/dryer, but I like it. So I never have that problem > > > > > > again a grey water tank over flow pipe is in the future. I'm sure > > > > > > someone will chime in with the perils of dumping greywater on the > > > > > > ground. That's not my intention, my intention is to never fill the > > > > > > interior of my coach with gray water again. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kurt Horvath > > > > > > 95-PT 42 WLWB > > > > > > 10AC > > > >

[Kurt Horvath]

I don't like the sound of blowing air from the coach systems, brakes,
air bags, steps etc. into the fresh water system. Anymore than the
idea of the water system pumping water into the air system.

I think maybe air line fittings with the integral schrader valve on
each end of the tubing would solve the problem fast,easy and
inexpensive. It would be easy to reattach the tubes in the event you
had to use it.

With the schrader valves you could just air purge the water system
from a cleaner air source than from the coach.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42
10AC

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Leroy Eckert
wrote:
>
> The way the system works is this.
> Air is introduced into the water system to blow out excess water
for winterization. There should be a check valve near the regulator
which prevents water from back flowing into the aux air system. In
most coaches that air system includes the air horns, air step , air
bags, driving lights, aux air pump, bulk oil fill, fresh air vent
system and who knows what else. This check valve is a serious weak
link in BB's. If air can be introduced into the water system to blow
it out, water can be introduced into the aux air system in the event
of a check valve failure. The check valve is the only line of
defense. The air regulator will not prevent water back flow and
neither will the purge air switch.
> There are a couple of choices. Disconnect the air purge system at
the purifier or water filter where ever it is installed and plug it
or install a ball valve above the check valve which separates water
and air and keep it shut off unless used for winterization.
> Everyone who has this system needs to do one or the other. Leaving
it the way it is is not an option in my opinion. I have installed a
ball valve. It is cheap and easy and leaves the original system
intact.
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> Dahlonega, GA
> Royale Conversion
>
>
> --- On Wed, 9/10/08, Kurt Horvath wrote:
> From: Kurt Horvath
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Water Pumps & Holding Tanks
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 11:48 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Guys,
>
>
>
> I think your right, It could be a real problem if water flowed into
>
> the airlines and tanks. I would imagine that a failure in the valve
>
> would cause an unsafe condition. In my case the pumps are always
on,
>
> but the air system is not always charged, I see where a back flow
of
>
> water would mess up the mix.
>
> Would it be advisable to unhook the air line and plug it?
>
> I never winterize my coach she's plugged in and heated, we try to
run
>
> year round.
>
>
>
> Kurt Horvath
>
> 95 PT-42
>
> 10AC
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Leroy Eckert
>
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Where is the picture. My regulator looks like one on a standard
air
>
> compressor used to adjust the air exiting the hose.
>
> > I am going to do a post on this issue. The purge air system is a
>
> weak link in all BB's with winterization blow out systems. Be
>
> careful, you can create yourself one hell of a problem.
>
> > Leroy Eckert
>
> > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
>
> > Dahlonega, GA
>
> > Royale Conversion
>
> >
>
> > --- On Wed, 9/10/08, Kurt Horvath wrote:
>
> > From: Kurt Horvath
>
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Water Pumps & Holding Tanks
>
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
>
> > Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 11:11 PM
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Leroy,
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I posted a picture of the regulator in question. Let me know what
>
> you
>
> >
>
> > think.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Jay Darst, sorry somehow I manged to post my picture in your
album
>
> >
>
> > and I couldn't delet it :{
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > kurt Horvath
>
> >
>
> > 95 PT-42
>
> >
>
> > 10AC
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Leroy Eckert
>
> >
>
> > wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Your coach is much newer than mine. That said, that little
>
> >
>
> > regulator you are talking about on the filter could be the air
>
> >
>
> > regulator for the winterizing blow out system. Better check it
out
>
> >
>
> > closely. You screw that up, a check valve goes bad and it can
load
>
> up
>
> >
>
> > water in the aux air system. You don't even want that to happen
and
>
> I
>
> >
>
> > assure you will not like the result.. I am serious. Be careful
with
>
> >
>
> > that deal and trace the lines down before doing mods. Mine has an
>
> >
>
> > additional ball valve added to prevent the problem.
>
> >
>
> > > My Splendide dumps into the black tank. The best thing that
>
> could
>
> >
>
> > ever happen to a black tank.
>
> >
>
> > > Leroy Eckert
>
> >
>
> > > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
>
> >
>
> > > Danlonega, GA
>
> >
>
> > > Royale Conversion
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > --- On Wed, 9/10/08, Kurt Horvath wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > From: Kurt Horvath
>
> >
>
> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Pumps & Holding Tanks
>
> >
>
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
>
> >
>
> > > Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 10:18 PM
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > I started the re-build on the water pumps today.
I'm
>
> >
>
> > happy one of the
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > pumps failed. What a mess, I'll post before and after shots
when
>
> I
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > get it finished. I have reduced the number on elbows by 80%.
>
> That
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > should greatly increase the pumps efficiency.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > I took the metal cover off the curb side tank bay just to make
>
> sure
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > all the pushing and pulling on the pipes didn't loosen
anything.
>
> >
>
> > Well
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > of course that just presented more opportunities to fix and
>
> upgrade.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > The water filter was the first thing that jumped out at me, I
>
> will
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > take it out and backwash the filter. I would like to replace
it.
>
> >
>
> > I'm
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > sure it's original equipment = 13 + years old. The thing I
don't
>
> >
>
> > know
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > anything about is the little pressure regulator or whatever it
>
> is,
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > mounted to the top of the filter. Obviously it increases or
>
> >
>
> > decrease
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > pressure but to what end? Also the water pipes are routed to
and
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > looped around it, so I'm guessing this filters water to a
>
> specific
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > place. Does anyone know to where?
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > I would like to install a gray water tank over flow pipe. Last
>
> year
>
> >
>
> > I
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > ran a load of laundry and went to breakfast with some friends,
a
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > short time latter a call on the cell and my neighbor was
telling
>
> me
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > that the coach was leaking. I ask from where and he responded
>
> with
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > EVERYWHERE! Well anyway no permanent damage. I thought of
dumping
>
> >
>
> > the
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Slendide washer/dryer, but I like it. So I never have that
>
> problem
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > again a grey water tank over flow pipe is in the future. I'm
sure
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > someone will chime in with the perils of dumping greywater on
the
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > ground. That's not my intention, my intention is to never fill
>
> the
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > interior of my coach with gray water again.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Kurt Horvath
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > 95-PT 42 WLWB
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > 10AC
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>