Washer/Dryer

[Kurt Horvath]

Just tiding up the coach, putting back in the rear wall of the washer
dryer closet and wondered dang it's still a bit musty. I just finished
vacuuming behind the Splende 2000 last week and had cleaned up
everything. I looked behind it once more. How did I miss that. The
drain from the washer goes into a pipe stand. There is no washer or
collar around it, it's just the washer drain tube stuck into a 1 ½"
black pipe. Lots of room to vent back into the closet. I found one
source of unpleasant odor. But that just lead to another question. When
was the last time anyone changed the water hoses for the washer? Near
as I can tell in my coach never. That would make them 13 years old.
Nearly triple the recommended service life. New stainless braided hoses
and a some sort of collar or vapor lock for the drain pipe. Now I need
to pull the machine out a bit just make sure the vent tube is OK,and to
install the new hoses. It did have some lint and was very dusty in
there. And the beat goes on, and the beat goes on. On and on.
Kurt Horvath
95 Pt 42
10AC

[Leroy Eckert]

Just curious, does your Splendide vent through the side of the bus or below the bus. I have heard tales of critters entering the below bus dryer vents. The lint filter is just like at home. It ain't worth a damn and the exhaust pipe needs frequent cleaning. As for the water drain, mine is the same and it has a water trap. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors Dahlonega, GA Royale Conversion Don't let a dog guard your food or Congress guard the money --- On Tue, 9/30/08, Kurt Horvath wrote: From: Kurt Horvath Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Washer/Dryer To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:00 AM Just tiding up the coach, putting back in the rear wall of the washer dryer closet and wondered dang it's still a bit musty. I just finished vacuuming behind the Splende 2000 last week and had cleaned up everything. I looked behind it once more. How did I miss that. The drain from the washer goes into a pipe stand. There is no washer or collar around it, it's just the washer drain tube stuck into a 1 ½" black pipe. Lots of room to vent back into the closet. I found one source of unpleasant odor. But that just lead to another question. When was the last time anyone changed the water hoses for the washer? Near as I can tell in my coach never. That would make them 13 years old. Nearly triple the recommended service life. New stainless braided hoses and a some sort of collar or vapor lock for the drain pipe. Now I need to pull the machine out a bit just make sure the vent tube is OK,and to install the new hoses. It did have some lint and was very dusty in there. And the beat goes on, and the beat goes on. On and on. Kurt Horvath 95 Pt 42 10AC

[Leroy Eckert]

One more thing. Do you have a vent tube there???in the washer/dryer closet??? I am still trying to determine where the intake air is that allows the venture on the main vent to expel gasses while driving and or allows the Stanker fans to work properly> Anybody know, please advise. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors Dahlonega, GA Royale Conversion --- On Tue, 9/30/08, Kurt Horvath wrote: From: Kurt Horvath Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Washer/Dryer To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:00 AM Just tiding up the coach, putting back in the rear wall of the washer dryer closet and wondered dang it's still a bit musty. I just finished vacuuming behind the Splende 2000 last week and had cleaned up everything. I looked behind it once more. How did I miss that. The drain from the washer goes into a pipe stand. There is no washer or collar around it, it's just the washer drain tube stuck into a 1 ½" black pipe. Lots of room to vent back into the closet. I found one source of unpleasant odor. But that just lead to another question. When was the last time anyone changed the water hoses for the washer? Near as I can tell in my coach never. That would make them 13 years old. Nearly triple the recommended service life. New stainless braided hoses and a some sort of collar or vapor lock for the drain pipe. Now I need to pull the machine out a bit just make sure the vent tube is OK,and to install the new hoses. It did have some lint and was very dusty in there. And the beat goes on, and the beat goes on. On and on. Kurt Horvath 95 Pt 42 10AC

[Pete Masterson]

It also depends on the installation/floor plan in your coach. With
the "diagonal aisle" floor plan (with an aisle passing by the
bathroom (a side-bath type arrangement), my Splende is located on the
centerline of the coach, in a full-height closet (linens go above the
washer). This also puts the outlet for the dryer vent located up
high, above the axle area, just in front of the differential. The
back of the washer is against the bedroom bulkhead. There is no
access from the back side.

A search for the vent-exit from the outside proved fruitless. (The
dryer was almost totally ineffective, and I made the assumption that
the vent was blocked.)

I eventually had to pull the Splende out of its closet.
Unfortunately, the tight installation requires removing one of the
hinged doors to the washer/linen closet. Of course, BB used a piano
hinge with nearly a dozen screws -- at least they only did every
other screw.

Only a relatively small amount of lint was found behind (and under)
the washer. I discovered that years of lint build up at the screen
(to keep vermin out) at the dryer vent exit had formed a thick (1/2
inch) nearly solid seal -- it was not wonder the dryer didn't work!

The hoses looked to be in good condition -- but replacing them with
steel-braid replacements would probably be a good precaution (why
didn't I think of that while I had the washer out...). The water
outlet is, as you said, simply a typical curved 'hook' from the
washer feeding into a standing pipe connected with the plumbing. I
suspect that the tube isn't sealed to allow venting which might
otherwise cause undesirable back pressure. We have not experienced
any unpleasant sewer odors from the washer vent line. Isn't there a
trap to block odors from the holding tank? (I don't recall seeing one
in my installation, but then I don't recall not seeing one either.)

There was no sign (water spots, stains on unpainted wood, etc.) that
the outlet had ever overflowed. I do not have any moisture problems
in the washer/linen closet.

After cleaning the vent tube and outlet thoroughly, I re-installed
the washer as it had previously been -- and now the dryer, while
hardly impressive, does dry clothes. Due to the relatively small size
of the washer and anemic drying performance of the dryer (but it does
work and is consistent with reports from others) we still do the bulk
of our laundry at laundromats, etc.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road near Scranton, PA



On Sep 30, 2008, at 12:00 AM, Kurt Horvath wrote:

> Just tiding up the coach, putting back in the rear wall of the washer
> dryer closet and wondered dang it's still a bit musty. I just finished
> vacuuming behind the Splende 2000 last week and had cleaned up
> everything. I looked behind it once more. How did I miss that. The
> drain from the washer goes into a pipe stand. There is no washer or
> collar around it, it's just the washer drain tube stuck into a 1 ½"
> black pipe. Lots of room to vent back into the closet. I found one
> source of unpleasant odor. But that just lead to another question.
> When
> was the last time anyone changed the water hoses for the washer? Near
> as I can tell in my coach never. That would make them 13 years old.
> Nearly triple the recommended service life. New stainless braided
> hoses
> and a some sort of collar or vapor lock for the drain pipe. Now I need
> to pull the machine out a bit just make sure the vent tube is
> OK,and to
> install the new hoses. It did have some lint and was very dusty in
> there. And the beat goes on, and the beat goes on. On and on.
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 Pt 42
> 10AC
>
>

[Kurt Horvath]

Now were having fun! The dryer exhaust tube is pinched in half,
obviously when installed they just pushed the washer in and chinked
the tube. There was enough lint to weave a shirt, the water hose is
kinked in half and showing signs of cracking, the electric heater
under the W/D is not mounted very well it's just hanging on from the
grill and the air powered vent is seized up, the air cylinder is
functional and the on/off light is working for the first time ever.
The floor was cut away to allow access for the dryer vent hose but
they did not block it up in any way. So one side of the closet floor
is just hanging in air. Must have been a Friday Afternoon. Yes Pete I
did have to take the door off. No signs of any past water damage so
far. There is a small water trap but I sure in a few weeks of hot
weather when not being used it would evaporate. Still looking for the
elusive Pipe vent, I think it's behind the pantry.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT 42
10AC
- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> It also depends on the installation/floor plan in your coach. With
> the "diagonal aisle" floor plan (with an aisle passing by the
> bathroom (a side-bath type arrangement), my Splende is located on
the
> centerline of the coach, in a full-height closet (linens go above
the
> washer). This also puts the outlet for the dryer vent located up
> high, above the axle area, just in front of the differential. The
> back of the washer is against the bedroom bulkhead. There is no
> access from the back side.
>
> A search for the vent-exit from the outside proved fruitless. (The
> dryer was almost totally ineffective, and I made the assumption
that
> the vent was blocked.)
>
> I eventually had to pull the Splende out of its closet.
> Unfortunately, the tight installation requires removing one of the
> hinged doors to the washer/linen closet. Of course, BB used a
piano
> hinge with nearly a dozen screws -- at least they only did every
> other screw.
>
> Only a relatively small amount of lint was found behind (and
under)
> the washer. I discovered that years of lint build up at the screen
> (to keep vermin out) at the dryer vent exit had formed a thick
(1/2
> inch) nearly solid seal -- it was not wonder the dryer didn't work!
>
> The hoses looked to be in good condition -- but replacing them
with
> steel-braid replacements would probably be a good precaution (why
> didn't I think of that while I had the washer out...). The water
> outlet is, as you said, simply a typical curved 'hook' from the
> washer feeding into a standing pipe connected with the plumbing. I
> suspect that the tube isn't sealed to allow venting which might
> otherwise cause undesirable back pressure. We have not experienced
> any unpleasant sewer odors from the washer vent line. Isn't there
a
> trap to block odors from the holding tank? (I don't recall seeing
one
> in my installation, but then I don't recall not seeing one either.)
>
> There was no sign (water spots, stains on unpainted wood, etc.)
that
> the outlet had ever overflowed. I do not have any moisture
problems
> in the washer/linen closet.
>
> After cleaning the vent tube and outlet thoroughly, I re-installed
> the washer as it had previously been -- and now the dryer, while
> hardly impressive, does dry clothes. Due to the relatively small
size
> of the washer and anemic drying performance of the dryer (but it
does
> work and is consistent with reports from others) we still do the
bulk
> of our laundry at laundromats, etc.
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> aeonix1@...
> On the road near Scranton, PA
>
>
>
> On Sep 30, 2008, at 12:00 AM, Kurt Horvath wrote:
>
> > Just tiding up the coach, putting back in the rear wall of the
washer
> > dryer closet and wondered dang it's still a bit musty. I just
finished
> > vacuuming behind the Splende 2000 last week and had cleaned up
> > everything. I looked behind it once more. How did I miss that. The
> > drain from the washer goes into a pipe stand. There is no washer
or
> > collar around it, it's just the washer drain tube stuck into a 1
½"
> > black pipe. Lots of room to vent back into the closet. I found one
> > source of unpleasant odor. But that just lead to another
question.
> > When
> > was the last time anyone changed the water hoses for the washer?
Near
> > as I can tell in my coach never. That would make them 13 years
old.
> > Nearly triple the recommended service life. New stainless
braided
> > hoses
> > and a some sort of collar or vapor lock for the drain pipe. Now I
need
> > to pull the machine out a bit just make sure the vent tube is
> > OK,and to
> > install the new hoses. It did have some lint and was very dusty in
> > there. And the beat goes on, and the beat goes on. On and on.
> > Kurt Horvath
> > 95 Pt 42
> > 10AC
> >
> >
>

[Eric Perplies]

There is a "P" trap in the waste water connection pipe leading to the
gray tank. If you don't use your washer every 4 to 6 weeks the "P"
trap will dry out and you will get funky odors out of the the closet
area.

I installed a 1/4" water line and valve to the drain that my Splendid
feeds. Every 3 or 4 weeks I give it a shot of water to fill the "p"
trap. You can also just run a "short" cycle on your washer, but I
fried one of the relays on the Splendid circuit board doing this. I
decided that the water line was a better alternative than replacing
the circuit board every few years.

Eric Perplies
96 42' WBWL

[Kurt Horvath]

Excellent idea Eric.

Since I have the W/D out of the closet, I'm redoing everything.
Bracing the floor and the electric heater, new hoses, a problem of
clearance with the dryer vent tube to resolve, and a rebuild on the
dryer vent shutter, I'm hoping it's not the air cylinder, I haven't
gotten at it yet.

The Perplies Ptrap Upgrade. Also a good way to add anti freeze the
Ptrap, not sure if filling the W/D with anti freeze is a good or bad
idea when you need to winterize.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT 42
10AC

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Perplies"
wrote:
>
> There is a "P" trap in the waste water connection pipe leading to
the
> gray tank. If you don't use your washer every 4 to 6 weeks the "P"
> trap will dry out and you will get funky odors out of the the closet
> area.
>
> I installed a 1/4" water line and valve to the drain that my
Splendid
> feeds. Every 3 or 4 weeks I give it a shot of water to fill the "p"
> trap. You can also just run a "short" cycle on your washer, but I
> fried one of the relays on the Splendid circuit board doing this. I
> decided that the water line was a better alternative than replacing
> the circuit board every few years.
>
> Eric Perplies
> 96 42' WBWL
>

[Pete Masterson]

Well, at least I didn't get a Friday afternoon job. Everything was
properly installed -- floor supported, etc. Must have been a
Wednesday, mid-morning installation....

I agree that the trap was small, so non-use of the washer and hot
weather could combine to allow some odor problems. My storage
location (in the SF Bay Area) doesn't present much of a challenge to
sewer traps, fortunately...

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road near Scranton, PA



On Sep 30, 2008, at 5:18 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote:

> Now were having fun! The dryer exhaust tube is pinched in half,
> obviously when installed they just pushed the washer in and chinked
> the tube. There was enough lint to weave a shirt, the water hose is
> kinked in half and showing signs of cracking, the electric heater
> under the W/D is not mounted very well it's just hanging on from the
> grill and the air powered vent is seized up, the air cylinder is
> functional and the on/off light is working for the first time ever.
> The floor was cut away to allow access for the dryer vent hose but
> they did not block it up in any way. So one side of the closet floor
> is just hanging in air. Must have been a Friday Afternoon. Yes Pete I
> did have to take the door off. No signs of any past water damage so
> far. There is a small water trap but I sure in a few weeks of hot
> weather when not being used it would evaporate. Still looking for the
> elusive Pipe vent, I think it's behind the pantry.
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 PT 42
> 10AC
> - In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
> wrote:
>>
>> It also depends on the installation/floor plan in your coach. With
>> the "diagonal aisle" floor plan (with an aisle passing by the
>> bathroom (a side-bath type arrangement), my Splende is located on
> the
>> centerline of the coach, in a full-height closet (linens go above
> the
>> washer). This also puts the outlet for the dryer vent located up
>> high, above the axle area, just in front of the differential. The
>> back of the washer is against the bedroom bulkhead. There is no
>> access from the back side.
>>
>> A search for the vent-exit from the outside proved fruitless. (The
>> dryer was almost totally ineffective, and I made the assumption
> that
>> the vent was blocked.)
>>
>> I eventually had to pull the Splende out of its closet.
>> Unfortunately, the tight installation requires removing one of the
>> hinged doors to the washer/linen closet. Of course, BB used a
> piano
>> hinge with nearly a dozen screws -- at least they only did every
>> other screw.
>>
>> Only a relatively small amount of lint was found behind (and
> under)
>> the washer. I discovered that years of lint build up at the screen
>> (to keep vermin out) at the dryer vent exit had formed a thick
> (1/2
>> inch) nearly solid seal -- it was not wonder the dryer didn't work!
>>
>> The hoses looked to be in good condition -- but replacing them
> with
>> steel-braid replacements would probably be a good precaution (why
>> didn't I think of that while I had the washer out...). The water
>> outlet is, as you said, simply a typical curved 'hook' from the
>> washer feeding into a standing pipe connected with the plumbing. I
>> suspect that the tube isn't sealed to allow venting which might
>> otherwise cause undesirable back pressure. We have not experienced
>> any unpleasant sewer odors from the washer vent line. Isn't there
> a
>> trap to block odors from the holding tank? (I don't recall seeing
> one
>> in my installation, but then I don't recall not seeing one either.)
>>
>> There was no sign (water spots, stains on unpainted wood, etc.)
> that
>> the outlet had ever overflowed. I do not have any moisture
> problems
>> in the washer/linen closet.
>>
>> After cleaning the vent tube and outlet thoroughly, I re-installed
>> the washer as it had previously been -- and now the dryer, while
>> hardly impressive, does dry clothes. Due to the relatively small
> size
>> of the washer and anemic drying performance of the dryer (but it
> does
>> work and is consistent with reports from others) we still do the
> bulk
>> of our laundry at laundromats, etc.
>>
>> Pete Masterson
>> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
>> aeonix1@...
>> On the road near Scranton, PA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 30, 2008, at 12:00 AM, Kurt Horvath wrote:
>>
>>> Just tiding up the coach, putting back in the rear wall of the
> washer
>>> dryer closet and wondered dang it's still a bit musty. I just
> finished
>>> vacuuming behind the Splende 2000 last week and had cleaned up
>>> everything. I looked behind it once more. How did I miss that. The
>>> drain from the washer goes into a pipe stand. There is no washer
> or
>>> collar around it, it's just the washer drain tube stuck into a 1
> ½"
>>> black pipe. Lots of room to vent back into the closet. I found one
>>> source of unpleasant odor. But that just lead to another
> question.
>>> When
>>> was the last time anyone changed the water hoses for the washer?
> Near
>>> as I can tell in my coach never. That would make them 13 years
> old.
>>> Nearly triple the recommended service life. New stainless
> braided
>>> hoses
>>> and a some sort of collar or vapor lock for the drain pipe. Now I
> need
>>> to pull the machine out a bit just make sure the vent tube is
>>> OK,and to
>>> install the new hoses. It did have some lint and was very dusty in
>>> there. And the beat goes on, and the beat goes on. On and on.
>>> Kurt Horvath
>>> 95 Pt 42
>>> 10AC
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

[Kurt Horvath]

What do you guys think of poking a hole through the body to exhaust
the dryer staight out from the machine? The current vent system is a
wreck and isn't very effective even if it were rebuilt.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT 42
10AC

In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> Well, at least I didn't get a Friday afternoon job. Everything was
> properly installed -- floor supported, etc. Must have been a
> Wednesday, mid-morning installation....
>
> I agree that the trap was small, so non-use of the washer and hot
> weather could combine to allow some odor problems. My storage
> location (in the SF Bay Area) doesn't present much of a challenge
to
> sewer traps, fortunately...
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> aeonix1@...
> On the road near Scranton, PA
>
>
>
> On Sep 30, 2008, at 5:18 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote:
>
> > Now were having fun! The dryer exhaust tube is pinched in half,
> > obviously when installed they just pushed the washer in and
chinked
> > the tube. There was enough lint to weave a shirt, the water hose
is
> > kinked in half and showing signs of cracking, the electric heater
> > under the W/D is not mounted very well it's just hanging on from
the
> > grill and the air powered vent is seized up, the air cylinder is
> > functional and the on/off light is working for the first time
ever.
> > The floor was cut away to allow access for the dryer vent hose but
> > they did not block it up in any way. So one side of the closet
floor
> > is just hanging in air. Must have been a Friday Afternoon. Yes
Pete I
> > did have to take the door off. No signs of any past water damage
so
> > far. There is a small water trap but I sure in a few weeks of hot
> > weather when not being used it would evaporate. Still looking for
the
> > elusive Pipe vent, I think it's behind the pantry.
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
> > 95 PT 42
> > 10AC
> > - In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> It also depends on the installation/floor plan in your coach.
With
> >> the "diagonal aisle" floor plan (with an aisle passing by the
> >> bathroom (a side-bath type arrangement), my Splende is located on
> > the
> >> centerline of the coach, in a full-height closet (linens go above
> > the
> >> washer). This also puts the outlet for the dryer vent located up
> >> high, above the axle area, just in front of the differential. The
> >> back of the washer is against the bedroom bulkhead. There is no
> >> access from the back side.
> >>
> >> A search for the vent-exit from the outside proved fruitless.
(The
> >> dryer was almost totally ineffective, and I made the assumption
> > that
> >> the vent was blocked.)
> >>
> >> I eventually had to pull the Splende out of its closet.
> >> Unfortunately, the tight installation requires removing one of
the
> >> hinged doors to the washer/linen closet. Of course, BB used a
> > piano
> >> hinge with nearly a dozen screws -- at least they only did every
> >> other screw.
> >>
> >> Only a relatively small amount of lint was found behind (and
> > under)
> >> the washer. I discovered that years of lint build up at the
screen
> >> (to keep vermin out) at the dryer vent exit had formed a thick
> > (1/2
> >> inch) nearly solid seal -- it was not wonder the dryer didn't
work!
> >>
> >> The hoses looked to be in good condition -- but replacing them
> > with
> >> steel-braid replacements would probably be a good precaution (why
> >> didn't I think of that while I had the washer out...). The water
> >> outlet is, as you said, simply a typical curved 'hook' from the
> >> washer feeding into a standing pipe connected with the plumbing.
I
> >> suspect that the tube isn't sealed to allow venting which might
> >> otherwise cause undesirable back pressure. We have not
experienced
> >> any unpleasant sewer odors from the washer vent line. Isn't there
> > a
> >> trap to block odors from the holding tank? (I don't recall seeing
> > one
> >> in my installation, but then I don't recall not seeing one
either.)
> >>
> >> There was no sign (water spots, stains on unpainted wood, etc.)
> > that
> >> the outlet had ever overflowed. I do not have any moisture
> > problems
> >> in the washer/linen closet.
> >>
> >> After cleaning the vent tube and outlet thoroughly, I re-
installed
> >> the washer as it had previously been -- and now the dryer, while
> >> hardly impressive, does dry clothes. Due to the relatively small
> > size
> >> of the washer and anemic drying performance of the dryer (but it
> > does
> >> work and is consistent with reports from others) we still do the
> > bulk
> >> of our laundry at laundromats, etc.
> >>
> >> Pete Masterson
> >> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> >> aeonix1@
> >> On the road near Scranton, PA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 30, 2008, at 12:00 AM, Kurt Horvath wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just tiding up the coach, putting back in the rear wall of the
> > washer
> >>> dryer closet and wondered dang it's still a bit musty. I just
> > finished
> >>> vacuuming behind the Splende 2000 last week and had cleaned up
> >>> everything. I looked behind it once more. How did I miss that.
The
> >>> drain from the washer goes into a pipe stand. There is no washer
> > or
> >>> collar around it, it's just the washer drain tube stuck into a 1
> > ½"
> >>> black pipe. Lots of room to vent back into the closet. I found
one
> >>> source of unpleasant odor. But that just lead to another
> > question.
> >>> When
> >>> was the last time anyone changed the water hoses for the washer?
> > Near
> >>> as I can tell in my coach never. That would make them 13 years
> > old.
> >>> Nearly triple the recommended service life. New stainless
> > braided
> >>> hoses
> >>> and a some sort of collar or vapor lock for the drain pipe. Now
I
> > need
> >>> to pull the machine out a bit just make sure the vent tube is
> >>> OK,and to
> >>> install the new hoses. It did have some lint and was very dusty
in
> >>> there. And the beat goes on, and the beat goes on. On and on.
> >>> Kurt Horvath
> >>> 95 Pt 42
> >>> 10AC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

[Leroy Eckert]

Mine has side wall vent with a plastic louver vent.The louvers are flat when not working and open when the dryer is on. It works great. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors Dahlonega, GA Royale Conversion --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Kurt Horvath wrote: From: Kurt Horvath Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Washer/Dryer To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 4:29 PM What do you guys think of poking a hole through the body to exhaust the dryer staight out from the machine? The current vent system is a wreck and isn't very effective even if it were rebuilt. Kurt Horvath 95 PT 42 10AC In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Pete Masterson wrote: > > Well, at least I didn't get a Friday afternoon job. Everything was > properly installed -- floor supported, etc. Must have been a > Wednesday, mid-morning installation. ... > > I agree that the trap was small, so non-use of the washer and hot > weather could combine to allow some odor problems. My storage > location (in the SF Bay Area) doesn't present much of a challenge to > sewer traps, fortunately. .. > > Pete Masterson > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 > aeonix1@... > On the road near Scranton, PA > > > > On Sep 30, 2008, at 5:18 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote: > > > Now were having fun! The dryer exhaust tube is pinched in half, > > obviously when installed they just pushed the washer in and chinked > > the tube. There was enough lint to weave a shirt, the water hose is > > kinked in half and showing signs of cracking, the electric heater > > under the W/D is not mounted very well it's just hanging on from the > > grill and the air powered vent is seized up, the air cylinder is > > functional and the on/off light is working for the first time ever. > > The floor was cut away to allow access for the dryer vent hose but > > they did not block it up in any way. So one side of the closet floor > > is just hanging in air. Must have been a Friday Afternoon. Yes Pete I > > did have to take the door off. No signs of any past water damage so > > far. There is a small water trap but I sure in a few weeks of hot > > weather when not being used it would evaporate. Still looking for the > > elusive Pipe vent, I think it's behind the pantry. > > > > Kurt Horvath > > 95 PT 42 > > 10AC > > - In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Pete Masterson > > wrote: > >> > >> It also depends on the installation/ floor plan in your coach.. With > >> the "diagonal aisle" floor plan (with an aisle passing by the > >> bathroom (a side-bath type arrangement) , my Splende is located on > > the > >> centerline of the coach, in a full-height closet (linens go above > > the > >> washer). This also puts the outlet for the dryer vent located up > >> high, above the axle area, just in front of the differential. The > >> back of the washer is against the bedroom bulkhead. There is no > >> access from the back side. > >> > >> A search for the vent-exit from the outside proved fruitless. (The > >> dryer was almost totally ineffective, and I made the assumption > > that > >> the vent was blocked.) > >> > >> I eventually had to pull the Splende out of its closet. > >> Unfortunately, the tight installation requires removing one of the > >> hinged doors to the washer/linen closet. Of course, BB used a > > piano > >> hinge with nearly a dozen screws -- at least they only did every > >> other screw. > >> > >> Only a relatively small amount of lint was found behind (and > > under) > >> the washer. I discovered that years of lint build up at the screen > >> (to keep vermin out) at the dryer vent exit had formed a thick > > (1/2 > >> inch) nearly solid seal -- it was not wonder the dryer didn't work! > >> > >> The hoses looked to be in good condition -- but replacing them > > with > >> steel-braid replacements would probably be a good precaution (why > >> didn't I think of that while I had the washer out...). The water > >> outlet is, as you said, simply a typical curved 'hook' from the > >> washer feeding into a standing pipe connected with the plumbing. I > >> suspect that the tube isn't sealed to allow venting which might > >> otherwise cause undesirable back pressure. We have not experienced > >> any unpleasant sewer odors from the washer vent line. Isn't there > > a > >> trap to block odors from the holding tank? (I don't recall seeing > > one > >> in my installation, but then I don't recall not seeing one either.) > >> > >> There was no sign (water spots, stains on unpainted wood, etc..) > > that > >> the outlet had ever overflowed. I do not have any moisture > > problems > >> in the washer/linen closet. > >> > >> After cleaning the vent tube and outlet thoroughly, I re- installed > >> the washer as it had previously been -- and now the dryer, while > >> hardly impressive, does dry clothes. Due to the relatively small > > size > >> of the washer and anemic drying performance of the dryer (but it > > does > >> work and is consistent with reports from others) we still do the > > bulk > >> of our laundry at laundromats, etc. > >> > >> Pete Masterson > >> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 > >> aeonix1@ > >> On the road near Scranton, PA > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sep 30, 2008, at 12:00 AM, Kurt Horvath wrote: > >> > >>> Just tiding up the coach, putting back in the rear wall of the > > washer > >>> dryer closet and wondered dang it's still a bit musty. I just > > finished > >>> vacuuming behind the Splende 2000 last week and had cleaned up > >>> everything. I looked behind it once more. How did I miss that. The > >>> drain from the washer goes into a pipe stand. There is no washer > > or > >>> collar around it, it's just the washer drain tube stuck into a 1 > > ½" > >>> black pipe. Lots of room to vent back into the closet. I found one > >>> source of unpleasant odor. But that just lead to another > > question. > >>> When > >>> was the last time anyone changed the water hoses for the washer? > > Near > >>> as I can tell in my coach never. That would make them 13 years > > old. > >>> Nearly triple the recommended service life. New stainless > > braided > >>> hoses > >>> and a some sort of collar or vapor lock for the drain pipe. Now I > > need > >>> to pull the machine out a bit just make sure the vent tube is > >>> OK,and to > >>> install the new hoses. It did have some lint and was very dusty in > >>> there. And the beat goes on, and the beat goes on. On and on. > >>> Kurt Horvath > >>> 95 Pt 42 > >>> 10AC > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >