RIV Report?

[david edwards]

I think it was a humorous(?) reference to your Canadian heritage. Kerry 82 FC Denver--but married to a Canadian and former resident of Canada.

[Stephen Birtles]

oh it was humor
Iam glad somebody explained it to me i didnt understand
I still dont understand but i will laugh now
Stephen 77fc35


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, david edwards
wrote:
>
> I think it was a humorous(?) reference to your Canadian heritage.
>
> Kerry 82 FC Denver--but married to a Canadian and former resident of
Canada.
>

[86Bluebird]

WOW

Not quite sure how to respond to this thread.

We are owners of a 450Lxi and love the coach. CCW has done exactly what
Macy has so eloquently stated in his reply. Yes, we have our issues, but we
have worked with CCW and their employees for over a year to resolve most of
them and they have gone way over that extra mile for us and many others we
know personally.

We have experienced it ourselves and do not have to rely on others or ill
posts to know where we stand. As stated, where we would we all be if CCW
had not stepped up and purchased the Wanderlodge facility when Cerberus was
ready to close her up. Up a creek, that's where.

Enough crying, babbling, and venting. Let's get behind this great private
company and help them survive, instead of tearing them down like rotten
sheets off the clothes line. The company, and it's officers deserve better
and have endured there own personal hell this year. I know when Dale
purchased this company, he only saw good in how he could build back the
Bluebird name. Let's get behind them and help this happen.

With the economy in the dumper and all the financial problems, no good can
come from anything other than helping the other guy, not stepping on him.

SWBB, a California Bluebird group will be meeting in Quartzsite this January
for an annual rally. Look for the write up on last years rally in this
fall's issue of Bird Tracks. I hope CCW will participate again as they have
in the past. It was was a great show of support for the group that attended
the rally.

Living on the left coast with Bluebird on the right, is difficult to say the
least. Having CCW close to us is a welcomed event. We really are very
appreciative to Macy and Dale for all they have done for us. Macy, we hope
you get your health stabilized as soon as possible.


Dan and Cindy Sunderland
2005 450Lxi
San Marcos, CA

[David Brady]

Dan and Cindy,



Thanks for the great post. This is what we need more of. It's

great to hear from some of the 380 and 450 owners who

have first hand experience with warranties and recalls. You

have a wanderful coach. Best of luck,



David Brady

'02 LXi, NC



86Bluebird wrote:

WOW



Not quite sure how to respond to this thread.



We are owners of a 450Lxi and love the coach. CCW has done exactly what

Macy has so eloquently stated in his reply. Yes, we have our issues,
but we

have worked with CCW and their employees for over a year to resolve
most of

them and they have gone way over that extra mile for us and many others
we

know personally.



We have experienced it ourselves and do not have to rely on others or
ill

posts to know where we stand. As stated, where we would we all be if CCW

had not stepped up and purchased the Wanderlodge facility when Cerberus
was

ready to close her up. Up a creek, that's where.



Enough crying, babbling, and venting. Let's get behind this great
private

company and help them survive, instead of tearing them down like rotten

sheets off the clothes line. The company, and it's officers deserve
better

and have endured there own personal hell this year. I know when Dale

purchased this company, he only saw good in how he could build back the

Bluebird name. Let's get behind them and help this happen.



With the economy in the dumper and all the financial problems, no good
can

come from anything other than helping the other guy, not stepping on
him.



SWBB, a California Bluebird group will be meeting in Quartzsite this
January

for an annual rally. Look for the write up on last years rally in this

fall's issue of Bird Tracks. I hope CCW will participate again as they
have

in the past. It was was a great show of support for the group that
attended

the rally.



Living on the left coast with Bluebird on the right, is difficult to
say the

least. Having CCW close to us is a welcomed event. We really are very

appreciative to Macy and Dale for all they have done for us. Macy, we
hope

you get your health stabilized as soon as possible.



Dan and Cindy Sunderland

2005 450Lxi

San Marcos, CA

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[Tom McCarthy]

Actually, Stephen, it was initiated because of the cost increase of
RIV at the time when service and value appeared to be decreasing. It
resulted in a rally for friends to enjoy each other's company around
RIV, not to protest it. Many of the first year attendees did not go
to RIV.

Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy
Poway, CA

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Birtles"
wrote:
>
>
> rats was not set up as a $ alternative
> it was a meeting of friends that wanted to stay and enjoy each
others
> company after riv
> greg get the story straight
>
> Stephen 77fc35
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, jim riordan wrote:
> >
> > Greg,
> >
> > Go change the oil in your power steering pump!
> >
> > Jim Riordan
> > on the other side of the country!
> >
> > Gregory OConnor wrote:
> > there is your problem. I think it is a good idea to move
> the rally
> > around. someone suggested keeping the Perry thing alive as a
group
> > thing with support from the factory. Rats was set up as a $
> > alternative to the big buck cost of the official Perry thing to
> > serve the folks that were not in the million dollar bus market
> > anyway, just wanted good times and fellowship. dont know the
numbers
> > but if you had 50 new visitors owners and lookers in Branson that
> > would not have made the trip to Perry, sounds good to me??? Bet
Loyd
> > was approached with some sort of 'want to make everyone happy'
that
> > lead him to believe you were obligated. MikeB's company has a
more
> > respectful policy ;a statement. From there you can be kind. folks
> > that get 'more than fair' leave Carsons end of the deal unfair. A
> > Professional, personal or cultural trait of wanting to make
everyone
> > happy is a flaw because fair is some time only satisfactory .
> >
> > The Birds nest is another thing that is undefined. Why, gotta
cost
> > big bucks to run it. if it was exclusive and costly to attend but
> > free to origional owners, I would stay there at my $ just to say
I
> > did and respect the origional owners perk.
> >
> > Greg94ptCa
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Macy Neshati
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks very much for the supportive email, kind words, and
sharing
> > your
> > > positive experiences at Fort Valley. Our core business has been
> > built on
> > > resourcefulness, giving the customer what they want, excellent
> > customer
> > > service.
> > >
> > > And we have heeded the complaints about the rally and we will
go
> > back to
> > > Perry next year with a more robust program as well.
> > >
> > > Again, thanks so much to all of you who have responded in
support
> > of our
> > > company and who have passed on their well wishes for me. As
many
> > of you know
> > > it is a progressive disease and every couple years it overcomes
the
> > > medication and there is a trail and error period where we need
to
> > figure out
> > > what to do next but don¹t get me wrong I consider myself a very
> > lucky and
> > > blessed man and every day that I am given is a gift and a
> > blessing, I try to
> > > live it to the fullest. It is friends like you and so many
others
> > that
> > > reached out to me privately in response to this situation that
> > truly
> > > reinforce how lucky I am to be doing what I am doing.
> > > THANKS to ALL and wishing each and every one of you Good
Health,
> > Good
> > > Fortune, Joy, Peace and Prosperity during the Holiday Season
and
> > Always!
> > > Macy
> > > Macy Neshati
> > > Vice President, Sales & Marketing
> > > Complete Coach Works & Blue Bird Coachworks
> > > Office: 951-684-9585 Cell: 951-836-6525 Fax: 951-684-9585
> > > Visit Our Websites: http://www.completecoach.com
> > &http://www.bluebirdcoachworks.com
> > >
> >
>

[erniecarpet@...]

Good idea, Ron. I'll contact Harvey Lawrence as he was there way back when.

Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Weatherford, Texas

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[John Stiles]

This is incorrect. The first RATS was simply to extend our time
together after RITV. Ernie, myself, Ralph, Bruce and perhaps another
or two discussED meeting after the RITV. This was done via e-mails
initially then Ernie put the idea to the group existing at the
time. This was done in large part because the consensus was that 4-
busy days at RITV did not really give enough time for some of us. In
addition for those such as Ernie traveling all the way from Texas, 4-
days almost didn't justify the trip. RATS was not about money, RITV
or anything else but just some owners wanting to spend more time.

> > > Gregory OConnor wrote: Rats was set up as a $
> > > alternative to the big buck cost of the official Perry thing to
> > > serve the folks that were not in the million dollar bus market
> > > anyway, just wanted good times and fellowship.

WRONG!

Its this constant rumoring of the origin of RATS which has caused
such turmoil over the years. If you didn't help organize it, or were
not even there please don't present opinion as fact. Ernie, Ralph,
how about speaking up and lets please put a stop to the constant
misinformationi about RATS!

John
1980 33FC
"My Navion"
And yes I was at the 1st RATS, helped organize and did more than my
share in helping put away the grub.....



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Tom McCarthy"
wrote:
>
> Actually, Stephen, it was initiated because of the cost increase of
> RIV at the time when service and value appeared to be decreasing.
It
> resulted in a rally for friends to enjoy each other's company
around
> RIV, not to protest it. Many of the first year attendees did not
go
> to RIV.
>
> Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy
> Poway, CA
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Birtles"
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > rats was not set up as a $ alternative
> > it was a meeting of friends that wanted to stay and enjoy each
> others
> > company after riv
> > greg get the story straight
> >
> > Stephen 77fc35
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, jim riordan
wrote:
> > >
> > > Greg,
> > >
> > > Go change the oil in your power steering pump!
> > >
> > > Jim Riordan
> > > on the other side of the country!
> > >
> > > Gregory OConnor wrote:
> > > there is your problem. I think it is a good idea to
move
> > the rally
> > > around. someone suggested keeping the Perry thing alive as a
> group
> > > thing with support from the factory. Rats was set up as a $
> > > alternative to the big buck cost of the official Perry thing to
> > > serve the folks that were not in the million dollar bus market
> > > anyway, just wanted good times and fellowship. dont know the
> numbers
> > > but if you had 50 new visitors owners and lookers in Branson
that
> > > would not have made the trip to Perry, sounds good to me??? Bet
> Loyd
> > > was approached with some sort of 'want to make everyone happy'
> that
> > > lead him to believe you were obligated. MikeB's company has a
> more
> > > respectful policy ;a statement. From there you can be kind.
folks
> > > that get 'more than fair' leave Carsons end of the deal unfair.
A
> > > Professional, personal or cultural trait of wanting to make
> everyone
> > > happy is a flaw because fair is some time only satisfactory .
> > >
> > > The Birds nest is another thing that is undefined. Why, gotta
> cost
> > > big bucks to run it. if it was exclusive and costly to attend
but
> > > free to origional owners, I would stay there at my $ just to
say
> I
> > > did and respect the origional owners perk.
> > >
> > > Greg94ptCa
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Macy Neshati
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks very much for the supportive email, kind words, and
> sharing
> > > your
> > > > positive experiences at Fort Valley. Our core business has
been
> > > built on
> > > > resourcefulness, giving the customer what they want,
excellent
> > > customer
> > > > service.
> > > >
> > > > And we have heeded the complaints about the rally and we will
> go
> > > back to
> > > > Perry next year with a more robust program as well.
> > > >
> > > > Again, thanks so much to all of you who have responded in
> support
> > > of our
> > > > company and who have passed on their well wishes for me. As
> many
> > > of you know
> > > > it is a progressive disease and every couple years it
overcomes
> the
> > > > medication and there is a trail and error period where we
need
> to
> > > figure out
> > > > what to do next but don¹t get me wrong I consider myself a
very
> > > lucky and
> > > > blessed man and every day that I am given is a gift and a
> > > blessing, I try to
> > > > live it to the fullest. It is friends like you and so many
> others
> > > that
> > > > reached out to me privately in response to this situation
that
> > > truly
> > > > reinforce how lucky I am to be doing what I am doing.
> > > > THANKS to ALL and wishing each and every one of you Good
> Health,
> > > Good
> > > > Fortune, Joy, Peace and Prosperity during the Holiday Season
> and
> > > Always!
> > > > Macy
> > > > Macy Neshati
> > > > Vice President, Sales & Marketing
> > > > Complete Coach Works & Blue Bird Coachworks
> > > > Office: 951-684-9585 Cell: 951-836-6525 Fax: 951-684-9585
> > > > Visit Our Websites: http://www.completecoach.com
> > > &http://www.bluebirdcoachworks.com
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[Ernest Ekberg]

John- you are correct. Although the RATS idea came from my clouded
brain, it was the collaborative effort of quite a few individuals
that made the first and subsequent RATS rallies the success they are.
I am flattered that the idea has continued and flourished. If our
business we as it was at that firts RATS- Brenda and I would have
been able to attend. Thanks ERnie Ekberg- 83PT40 in Texas

"John Stiles"wrote:
>
> This is incorrect. The first RATS was simply to extend our time
> together after RITV. Ernie, myself, Ralph, Bruce and perhaps
another
> or two discussED meeting after the RITV. This was done via e-mails
> initially then Ernie put the idea to the group existing at the
> time. This was done in large part because the consensus was that
4-
> busy days at RITV did not really give enough time for some of us.
In
> addition for those such as Ernie traveling all the way from Texas,
4-
> days almost didn't justify the trip. RATS was not about money,
RITV
> or anything else but just some owners wanting to spend more time.
>
> > > > Gregory OConnor wrote: Rats was set up as a $
> > > > alternative to the big buck cost of the official Perry thing
to
> > > > serve the folks that were not in the million dollar bus
market
> > > > anyway, just wanted good times and fellowship.
>
> WRONG!
>
> Its this constant rumoring of the origin of RATS which has caused
> such turmoil over the years. If you didn't help organize it, or
were
> not even there please don't present opinion as fact. Ernie, Ralph,
> how about speaking up and lets please put a stop to the constant
> misinformationi about RATS!
>
> John
> 1980 33FC
> "My Navion"
> And yes I was at the 1st RATS, helped organize and did more than my
> share in helping put away the grub.....
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Tom McCarthy"
> wrote:
> >
> > Actually, Stephen, it was initiated because of the cost increase
of
> > RIV at the time when service and value appeared to be
decreasing.
> It
> > resulted in a rally for friends to enjoy each other's company
> around
> > RIV, not to protest it. Many of the first year attendees did not
> go
> > to RIV.
> >
> > Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy
> > Poway, CA
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Birtles"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > rats was not set up as a $ alternative
> > > it was a meeting of friends that wanted to stay and enjoy each
> > others
> > > company after riv
> > > greg get the story straight
> > >
> > > Stephen 77fc35
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, jim riordan
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Greg,
> > > >
> > > > Go change the oil in your power steering pump!
> > > >
> > > > Jim Riordan
> > > > on the other side of the country!
> > > >
> > > > Gregory OConnor wrote:
> > > > there is your problem. I think it is a good idea to
> move
> > > the rally
> > > > around. someone suggested keeping the Perry thing alive as a
> > group
> > > > thing with support from the factory. Rats was set up as a $
> > > > alternative to the big buck cost of the official Perry thing
to
> > > > serve the folks that were not in the million dollar bus
market
> > > > anyway, just wanted good times and fellowship. dont know the
> > numbers
> > > > but if you had 50 new visitors owners and lookers in Branson
> that
> > > > would not have made the trip to Perry, sounds good to me???
Bet
> > Loyd
> > > > was approached with some sort of 'want to make everyone
happy'
> > that
> > > > lead him to believe you were obligated. MikeB's company has a
> > more
> > > > respectful policy ;a statement. From there you can be kind.
> folks
> > > > that get 'more than fair' leave Carsons end of the deal
unfair.
> A
> > > > Professional, personal or cultural trait of wanting to make
> > everyone
> > > > happy is a flaw because fair is some time only satisfactory .
> > > >
> > > > The Birds nest is another thing that is undefined. Why, gotta
> > cost
> > > > big bucks to run it. if it was exclusive and costly to attend
> but
> > > > free to origional owners, I would stay there at my $ just to
> say
> > I
> > > > did and respect the origional owners perk.
> > > >
> > > > Greg94ptCa
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Macy Neshati
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks very much for the supportive email, kind words, and
> > sharing
> > > > your
> > > > > positive experiences at Fort Valley. Our core business has
> been
> > > > built on
> > > > > resourcefulness, giving the customer what they want,
> excellent
> > > > customer
> > > > > service.
> > > > >
> > > > > And we have heeded the complaints about the rally and we
will
> > go
> > > > back to
> > > > > Perry next year with a more robust program as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > Again, thanks so much to all of you who have responded in
> > support
> > > > of our
> > > > > company and who have passed on their well wishes for me. As
> > many
> > > > of you know
> > > > > it is a progressive disease and every couple years it
> overcomes
> > the
> > > > > medication and there is a trail and error period where we
> need
> > to
> > > > figure out
> > > > > what to do next but don¹t get me wrong I consider myself a
> very
> > > > lucky and
> > > > > blessed man and every day that I am given is a gift and a
> > > > blessing, I try to
> > > > > live it to the fullest. It is friends like you and so many
> > others
> > > > that
> > > > > reached out to me privately in response to this situation
> that
> > > > truly
> > > > > reinforce how lucky I am to be doing what I am doing.
> > > > > THANKS to ALL and wishing each and every one of you Good
> > Health,
> > > > Good
> > > > > Fortune, Joy, Peace and Prosperity during the Holiday
Season
> > and
> > > > Always!
> > > > > Macy
> > > > > Macy Neshati
> > > > > Vice President, Sales & Marketing
> > > > > Complete Coach Works & Blue Bird Coachworks
> > > > > Office: 951-684-9585 Cell: 951-836-6525 Fax: 951-684-9585
> > > > > Visit Our Websites: http://www.completecoach.com
> > > > &http://www.bluebirdcoachworks.com
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[Kurt Horvath]

___________________________________________________

All I can say about RATS is.

I missed this years Rally,

I missed last years Rally.

I won't miss next years Rally.

____________________________________________________

Kurt Horvath
95 PT 42
10AC
____________________________________________________



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ernest Ekberg"
wrote:
>
> John- you are correct. Although the RATS idea came from my clouded
> brain, it was the collaborative effort of quite a few individuals
> that made the first and subsequent RATS rallies the success they
are.
> I am flattered that the idea has continued and flourished. If our
> business we as it was at that firts RATS- Brenda and I would have
> been able to attend. Thanks ERnie Ekberg- 83PT40 in Texas
>
> "John Stiles"wrote:
> >
> > This is incorrect. The first RATS was simply to extend our time
> > together after RITV. Ernie, myself, Ralph, Bruce and perhaps
> another
> > or two discussED meeting after the RITV. This was done via e-
mails
> > initially then Ernie put the idea to the group existing at the
> > time. This was done in large part because the consensus was
that
> 4-
> > busy days at RITV did not really give enough time for some of
us.
> In
> > addition for those such as Ernie traveling all the way from
Texas,
> 4-
> > days almost didn't justify the trip. RATS was not about money,
> RITV
> > or anything else but just some owners wanting to spend more
time.
> >
> > > > > Gregory OConnor wrote: Rats was set up as a $
> > > > > alternative to the big buck cost of the official Perry
thing
> to
> > > > > serve the folks that were not in the million dollar bus
> market
> > > > > anyway, just wanted good times and fellowship.
> >
> > WRONG!
> >
> > Its this constant rumoring of the origin of RATS which has caused
> > such turmoil over the years. If you didn't help organize it, or
> were
> > not even there please don't present opinion as fact. Ernie,
Ralph,
> > how about speaking up and lets please put a stop to the constant
> > misinformationi about RATS!
> >
> > John
> > 1980 33FC
> > "My Navion"
> > And yes I was at the 1st RATS, helped organize and did more than
my
> > share in helping put away the grub.....
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Tom McCarthy"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Actually, Stephen, it was initiated because of the cost
increase
> of
> > > RIV at the time when service and value appeared to be
> decreasing.
> > It
> > > resulted in a rally for friends to enjoy each other's company
> > around
> > > RIV, not to protest it. Many of the first year attendees did
not
> > go
> > > to RIV.
> > >
> > > Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy
> > > Poway, CA
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Birtles"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > rats was not set up as a $ alternative
> > > > it was a meeting of friends that wanted to stay and enjoy
each
> > > others
> > > > company after riv
> > > > greg get the story straight
> > > >
> > > > Stephen 77fc35
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, jim riordan
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Greg,
> > > > >
> > > > > Go change the oil in your power steering pump!
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim Riordan
> > > > > on the other side of the country!
> > > > >
> > > > > Gregory OConnor wrote:
> > > > > there is your problem. I think it is a good idea
to
> > move
> > > > the rally
> > > > > around. someone suggested keeping the Perry thing alive as
a
> > > group
> > > > > thing with support from the factory. Rats was set up as a $
> > > > > alternative to the big buck cost of the official Perry
thing
> to
> > > > > serve the folks that were not in the million dollar bus
> market
> > > > > anyway, just wanted good times and fellowship. dont know
the
> > > numbers
> > > > > but if you had 50 new visitors owners and lookers in
Branson
> > that
> > > > > would not have made the trip to Perry, sounds good to me???
> Bet
> > > Loyd
> > > > > was approached with some sort of 'want to make everyone
> happy'
> > > that
> > > > > lead him to believe you were obligated. MikeB's company has
a
> > > more
> > > > > respectful policy ;a statement. From there you can be kind.
> > folks
> > > > > that get 'more than fair' leave Carsons end of the deal
> unfair.
> > A
> > > > > Professional, personal or cultural trait of wanting to make
> > > everyone
> > > > > happy is a flaw because fair is some time only
satisfactory .
> > > > >
> > > > > The Birds nest is another thing that is undefined. Why,
gotta
> > > cost
> > > > > big bucks to run it. if it was exclusive and costly to
attend
> > but
> > > > > free to origional owners, I would stay there at my $ just
to
> > say
> > > I
> > > > > did and respect the origional owners perk.
> > > > >
> > > > > Greg94ptCa
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Macy Neshati

> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks very much for the supportive email, kind words,
and
> > > sharing
> > > > > your
> > > > > > positive experiences at Fort Valley. Our core business
has
> > been
> > > > > built on
> > > > > > resourcefulness, giving the customer what they want,
> > excellent
> > > > > customer
> > > > > > service.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And we have heeded the complaints about the rally and we
> will
> > > go
> > > > > back to
> > > > > > Perry next year with a more robust program as well.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Again, thanks so much to all of you who have responded in
> > > support
> > > > > of our
> > > > > > company and who have passed on their well wishes for me.
As
> > > many
> > > > > of you know
> > > > > > it is a progressive disease and every couple years it
> > overcomes
> > > the
> > > > > > medication and there is a trail and error period where we
> > need
> > > to
> > > > > figure out
> > > > > > what to do next but don¹t get me wrong I consider myself
a
> > very
> > > > > lucky and
> > > > > > blessed man and every day that I am given is a gift and a
> > > > > blessing, I try to
> > > > > > live it to the fullest. It is friends like you and so
many
> > > others
> > > > > that
> > > > > > reached out to me privately in response to this situation
> > that
> > > > > truly
> > > > > > reinforce how lucky I am to be doing what I am doing.
> > > > > > THANKS to ALL and wishing each and every one of you Good
> > > Health,
> > > > > Good
> > > > > > Fortune, Joy, Peace and Prosperity during the Holiday
> Season
> > > and
> > > > > Always!
> > > > > > Macy
> > > > > > Macy Neshati
> > > > > > Vice President, Sales & Marketing
> > > > > > Complete Coach Works & Blue Bird Coachworks
> > > > > > Office: 951-684-9585 Cell: 951-836-6525 Fax: 951-684-9585
> > > > > > Visit Our Websites: http://www.completecoach.com
> > > > > &http://www.bluebirdcoachworks.com
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[ronmarabito2002]

Ernie: It might be handy to have a link on our menu that goes to a
definitions file saying what an event is and how it came to pass.
This could include RATS, RIV, Quartzsite, etc.. Everyone could then
be privy to the true information.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ernest Ekberg"
wrote:
>
> John- you are correct. Although the RATS idea came from my clouded
> brain, it was the collaborative effort of quite a few individuals
> that made the first and subsequent RATS rallies the success they are.
> I am flattered that the idea has continued and flourished. If our
> business we as it was at that firts RATS- Brenda and I would have
> been able to attend. Thanks ERnie Ekberg- 83PT40 in Texas
>
> "John Stiles"wrote:
> >
> > This is incorrect. The first RATS was simply to extend our time
> > together after RITV. Ernie, myself, Ralph, Bruce and perhaps
> another
> > or two discussED meeting after the RITV. This was done via e-mails
> > initially then Ernie put the idea to the group existing at the
> > time. This was done in large part because the consensus was that
> 4-
> > busy days at RITV did not really give enough time for some of us.
> In
> > addition for those such as Ernie traveling all the way from Texas,
> 4-
> > days almost didn't justify the trip. RATS was not about money,
> RITV
> > or anything else but just some owners wanting to spend more time.
> >
> > > > > Gregory OConnor wrote: Rats was set up as a $
> > > > > alternative to the big buck cost of the official Perry thing
> to
> > > > > serve the folks that were not in the million dollar bus
> market
> > > > > anyway, just wanted good times and fellowship.
> >
> > WRONG!
> >
> > Its this constant rumoring of the origin of RATS which has caused
> > such turmoil over the years. If you didn't help organize it, or
> were
> > not even there please don't present opinion as fact. Ernie, Ralph,
> > how about speaking up and lets please put a stop to the constant
> > misinformationi about RATS!
> >
> > John
> > 1980 33FC
> > "My Navion"
> > And yes I was at the 1st RATS, helped organize and did more than my
> > share in helping put away the grub.....
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Tom McCarthy"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Actually, Stephen, it was initiated because of the cost increase
> of
> > > RIV at the time when service and value appeared to be
> decreasing.
> > It
> > > resulted in a rally for friends to enjoy each other's company
> > around
> > > RIV, not to protest it. Many of the first year attendees did not
> > go
> > > to RIV.
> > >
> > > Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy
> > > Poway, CA
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Birtles"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > rats was not set up as a $ alternative
> > > > it was a meeting of friends that wanted to stay and enjoy each
> > > others
> > > > company after riv
> > > > greg get the story straight
> > > >
> > > > Stephen 77fc35
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, jim riordan
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Greg,
> > > > >
> > > > > Go change the oil in your power steering pump!
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim Riordan
> > > > > on the other side of the country!
> > > > >
> > > > > Gregory OConnor wrote:
> > > > > there is your problem. I think it is a good idea to
> > move
> > > > the rally
> > > > > around. someone suggested keeping the Perry thing alive as a
> > > group
> > > > > thing with support from the factory. Rats was set up as a $
> > > > > alternative to the big buck cost of the official Perry thing
> to
> > > > > serve the folks that were not in the million dollar bus
> market
> > > > > anyway, just wanted good times and fellowship. dont know the
> > > numbers
> > > > > but if you had 50 new visitors owners and lookers in Branson
> > that
> > > > > would not have made the trip to Perry, sounds good to me???
> Bet
> > > Loyd
> > > > > was approached with some sort of 'want to make everyone
> happy'
> > > that
> > > > > lead him to believe you were obligated. MikeB's company has a
> > > more
> > > > > respectful policy ;a statement. From there you can be kind.
> > folks
> > > > > that get 'more than fair' leave Carsons end of the deal
> unfair.
> > A
> > > > > Professional, personal or cultural trait of wanting to make
> > > everyone
> > > > > happy is a flaw because fair is some time only satisfactory .
> > > > >
> > > > > The Birds nest is another thing that is undefined. Why, gotta
> > > cost
> > > > > big bucks to run it. if it was exclusive and costly to attend
> > but
> > > > > free to origional owners, I would stay there at my $ just to
> > say
> > > I
> > > > > did and respect the origional owners perk.
> > > > >
> > > > > Greg94ptCa
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Macy Neshati
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks very much for the supportive email, kind words, and
> > > sharing
> > > > > your
> > > > > > positive experiences at Fort Valley. Our core business has
> > been
> > > > > built on
> > > > > > resourcefulness, giving the customer what they want,
> > excellent
> > > > > customer
> > > > > > service.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And we have heeded the complaints about the rally and we
> will
> > > go
> > > > > back to
> > > > > > Perry next year with a more robust program as well.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Again, thanks so much to all of you who have responded in
> > > support
> > > > > of our
> > > > > > company and who have passed on their well wishes for me. As
> > > many
> > > > > of you know
> > > > > > it is a progressive disease and every couple years it
> > overcomes
> > > the
> > > > > > medication and there is a trail and error period where we
> > need
> > > to
> > > > > figure out
> > > > > > what to do next but don¹t get me wrong I consider myself a
> > very
> > > > > lucky and
> > > > > > blessed man and every day that I am given is a gift and a
> > > > > blessing, I try to
> > > > > > live it to the fullest. It is friends like you and so many
> > > others
> > > > > that
> > > > > > reached out to me privately in response to this situation
> > that
> > > > > truly
> > > > > > reinforce how lucky I am to be doing what I am doing.
> > > > > > THANKS to ALL and wishing each and every one of you Good
> > > Health,
> > > > > Good
> > > > > > Fortune, Joy, Peace and Prosperity during the Holiday
> Season
> > > and
> > > > > Always!
> > > > > > Macy
> > > > > > Macy Neshati
> > > > > > Vice President, Sales & Marketing
> > > > > > Complete Coach Works & Blue Bird Coachworks
> > > > > > Office: 951-684-9585 Cell: 951-836-6525 Fax: 951-684-9585
> > > > > > Visit Our Websites: http://www.completecoach.com
> > > > > &http://www.bluebirdcoachworks.com
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>