PT40 vs SP36

[blackmarjohn]

Ok I have taken the advice to heart and in the process of opening my
wallet. Moving from looking at FC projects, to get in and go PT or SP.

I have heard the sp is the corvette of the Birds but they also appear
to be hard to find and expensive in relation to PT40's.

The market appears to have have lots of PT's for sale now any reason
why?

I assume bigger is better and the 8v92 is preferred over the 6v92?
The series 60 coaches are still to far from my new expanded budget.

Is a PT40 too big for camping in state parks in the south east? Are
the generators quite enough for national parks? We are in Atlanta and
wold like to use the coach for weekend trips within 150 miles of
Atlanta to control expenses and get our feet wet. Maybe summer to
Yellowstone any thoughts on this would be helpful as well.

Thank you all for the help.

Burton
Wannabe
Cumming GA

[brad barton]

Burton,

I have not experienced an SP, but it may be the best power-to-weight ratio in Wanderlodge. I can certainly recommend the 8V92. There are more advanced engines out there but I don't think you'll find a better powerplant.


Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@...

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To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
From: blackmar1@...
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:04:10 +0000
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] PT40 vs SP36

Ok I have taken the advice to heart and in the process of opening my
wallet. Moving from looking at FC projects, to get in and go PT or SP.

I have heard the sp is the corvette of the Birds but they also appear
to be hard to find and expensive in relation to PT40's.

The market appears to have have lots of PT's for sale now any reason
why?

I assume bigger is better and the 8v92 is preferred over the 6v92?
The series 60 coaches are still to far from my new expanded budget.

Is a PT40 too big for camping in state parks in the south east? Are
the generators quite enough for national parks? We are in Atlanta and
wold like to use the coach for weekend trips within 150 miles of
Atlanta to control expenses and get our feet wet. Maybe summer to
Yellowstone any thoughts on this would be helpful as well.

Thank you all for the help.

Burton
Wannabe
Cumming GA

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[erniecarpet]

Ralph, Bim and I did a PDI on an Sp. It does have the power that was mentioned. Handled real well, also.

Ernie- 83PT40 in Texas

In a message dated 01/10/09 18:14:37 Central Standard Time, bbartonwx@... writes:

Burton,
I have not experienced an SP, but it may be the best power-to-weight ratio in Wanderlodge. I can certainly recommend the 8V92. There are more advanced engines out there but I don't think you'll find a better powerplant.

Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@hotmail.com

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To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
From: blackmar1@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:04:10 +0000
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] PT40 vs SP36

Ok I have taken the advice to heart and in the process of opening my
wallet. Moving from looking at FC projects, to get in and go PT or SP.

I have heard the sp is the corvette of the Birds but they also appear
to be hard to find and expensive in relation to PT40's.

The market appears to have have lots of PT's for sale now any reason
why?

I assume bigger is better and the 8v92 is preferred over the 6v92?
The series 60 coaches are still to far from my new expanded budget.

Is a PT40 too big for camping in state parks in the south east? Are
the generators quite enough for national parks? We are in Atlanta and
wold like to use the coach for weekend trips within 150 miles of
Atlanta to control expenses and get our feet wet. Maybe summer to
Yellowstone any thoughts on this would be helpful as well.

Thank you all for the help.

Burton
Wannabe
Cumming GA

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[Leroy Eckert]

Burton, you are about 30 miles from my home. If you want to come up and look at a very well maintained coach it is in the driveway. It would not hurt to have a wash job but its raining. I will walk you through the whole coach, the systems, and give you an idea of ownership. I have a full set of records you can sit and read. I will even give you a beer or soft drink. Your choice. As for the State Parks I have had mine at Amicalola Falls, there are several spots that it will fit; the only problem is the sharply elevated turn at the circle so you are limited to the upper 4 spots, otherwise you drag the back of the bus. I have been to Unicoi and Fort Mountain. No problems. Just pay attention. We go the Etowah River Campground often, it is family owned and is 9 miles from my home. No cable TV but who cares, we use SAT T. There is also Turners Corner and several other public campgrounds around. R Ranch is near here; a privately owned Coast to Coast campground but when space is available anyone can go. As far as the genset, I have never used it in the State Parks because they have power, water and a dump station. If needed mine is so quiet it is hard to hear it run 15 feet away. Warning, my coach will spoil you, then you are hooked. lol Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors Dahlonega, GA Royale Conversion --- On Sat, 1/10/09, blackmarjohn wrote: From: blackmarjohn Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] PT40 vs SP36 To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 7:04 PM Ok I have taken the advice to heart and in the process of opening my wallet. Moving from looking at FC projects, to get in and go PT or SP. I have heard the sp is the corvette of the Birds but they also appear to be hard to find and expensive in relation to PT40's. The market appears to have have lots of PT's for sale now any reason why? I assume bigger is better and the 8v92 is preferred over the 6v92? The series 60 coaches are still to far from my new expanded budget. Is a PT40 too big for camping in state parks in the south east? Are the generators quite enough for national parks? We are in Atlanta and wold like to use the coach for weekend trips within 150 miles of Atlanta to control expenses and get our feet wet. Maybe summer to Yellowstone any thoughts on this would be helpful as well. Thank you all for the help. Burton Wannabe Cumming GA

[blackmarjohn]

-Leory

I would very much appreciate the tour and information. I have some
time after church tomorrow if you have some availability. My cell
number is 678-267-0203 and email address is bblackmar(@)
signaturebankga.com

Burton

[Steve Pfiffner]

You may have heard that but '87-'89 FC's have the same drive train in a lighter coach. The Corvette would be that one '87FC31 known to have been made.

Steve

On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 6:04 PM, blackmarjohn <"blackmar1@gmail.com"> wrote:

Ok I have taken the advice to heart and in the process of opening my
wallet. Moving from looking at FC projects, to get in and go PT or SP.


I have heard the sp is the corvette of the Birds but they also appear
to be hard to find and expensive in relation to PT40's.

[Donald Spithaler]

Hi Burton
I have own a 89 SP for 5 years. We don't full time in it but we do spend 3 months in the winter. It has given us good service. To me the SP is more up dated on the inside than the FC. I owned a 79 FC before I got this one. My SP will get about 6.5 miles to the gal also.

Don Spithaler
89 SP 36'
Butler, PA In New Port Richey, FL for the winter

Steven

On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 6:04 PM, blackmarjohn <"blackmar1@gmail.com"> wrote:

Ok I have taken the advice to heart and in the process of opening my
wallet. Moving from looking at FC projects, to get in and go PT or SP.


I have heard the sp is the corvette of the Birds but they also appear
to be hard to find and expensive in relation to PT40's.

[timvasqz]

The sp's run a Cat3208 with a intercooler which dynamically makes
the turo pushed air cooler and more dense. since you can pack more
cold air into the fire at each stroke the result is a hotter burn
and bigger bank giving 300 horse power which require a diff
transmission than the Allison that was avaliable for the 3208 250hp
previous FC's. The ZF was used inplace of the Allison.

A pig is a pig but the 3208cat is a dog in every thing it ever
powered. Corvette, who told you that?
GregoryO'Connor94ptca

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "blackmarjohn"
wrote:
>
> Ok I have taken the advice to heart and in the process of opening
my
> wallet. Moving from looking at FC projects, to get in and go PT
or SP.
>
> I have heard the sp is the corvette of the Birds but they also
appear
> to be hard to find and expensive in relation to PT40's.
>
> The market appears to have have lots of PT's for sale now any
reason
> why?
>
> I assume bigger is better and the 8v92 is preferred over the 6v92?
> The series 60 coaches are still to far from my new expanded budget.
>
> Is a PT40 too big for camping in state parks in the south east? Are
> the generators quite enough for national parks? We are in Atlanta
and
> wold like to use the coach for weekend trips within 150 miles of
> Atlanta to control expenses and get our feet wet. Maybe summer to
> Yellowstone any thoughts on this would be helpful as well.
>
> Thank you all for the help.
>
> Burton
> Wannabe
> Cumming GA
>

[Leroy Eckert]

I sent a PM. Did you receive it? Leroy --- On Sat, 1/10/09, blackmarjohn wrote: From: blackmarjohn Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: PT40 vs SP36 To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 8:15 PM -Leory I would very much appreciate the tour and information. I have some time after church tomorrow if you have some availability. My cell number is 678-267-0203 and email address is bblackmar(@) signaturebankga. com Burton

[pattypape]

Burton,

We can confuse a new person with our wide variety of Inputs and
Opinions. One way to help in your decision is to attend a Rally,
there are many throught-out the US. A person can look at several
models of Birds and decide based on your personal needs and budget.

But do not abandon your search for an FC. The 3208 Caterpillar is not
a dog it purrs like a Kitten. FC's are great bargains, if they are
in good condition. The 3208 came in 210 HP, 225HP, 250HP and 300 HP.
Weight to HP ratio is very adequate in the later models.
They will acheive 7 MPG, some owners boast of near 10 MPG. This is a
big difference from a 6V or 8V. at 10,000 more lbs.

Bill 88 an FC "Fan" in Michigan





--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "timvasqz" wrote:
>
> The sp's run a Cat3208 with a intercooler which dynamically makes
> the turo pushed air cooler and more dense. since you can pack more
> cold air into the fire at each stroke the result is a hotter burn
> and bigger bank giving 300 horse power which require a diff
> transmission than the Allison that was avaliable for the 3208 250hp
> previous FC's. The ZF was used inplace of the Allison.
>
> A pig is a pig but the 3208cat is a dog in every thing it ever
> powered. Corvette, who told you that?
> GregoryO'Connor94ptca
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "blackmarjohn"
> wrote:
> >
> > Ok I have taken the advice to heart and in the process of opening
> my
> > wallet. Moving from looking at FC projects, to get in and go PT
> or SP.
> >
> > I have heard the sp is the corvette of the Birds but they also
> appear
> > to be hard to find and expensive in relation to PT40's.
> >
> > The market appears to have have lots of PT's for sale now any
> reason
> > why?
> >
> > I assume bigger is better and the 8v92 is preferred over the
6v92?
> > The series 60 coaches are still to far from my new expanded
budget.
> >
> > Is a PT40 too big for camping in state parks in the south east?
Are
> > the generators quite enough for national parks? We are in Atlanta
> and
> > wold like to use the coach for weekend trips within 150 miles of
> > Atlanta to control expenses and get our feet wet. Maybe summer to
> > Yellowstone any thoughts on this would be helpful as well.
> >
> > Thank you all for the help.
> >
> > Burton
> > Wannabe
> > Cumming GA
> >
>