Tips On HWH Jack Removal & Installation

[Eric Johnson]

One of the rear HWH jacks (not the kick-down cylinder) sprung a leak and I am in
the process of removal and repair. I talked to HWH tech support today and they
weren't much help in discussing how to take a jack off the coach. A BB friend
told me to remove the springs and jack pivot bolts in place, which I did.
Removing the springs was not easy and required a crow bar and heavy hammer to
get the job done. Putting this rigging back together after I get the seals
replaced is going to be interesting.

It looks like you could choose to remove the whole unit from the frame by
undoing four bolts that hold the jack bracket to the coach. This would allow
you to work on the springs out in the open with much better access.

Looking for tips from those that have tackled this job.

Thanks, Eric
84FC35SBWLII

[Ernie Ekberg]

Eric, i remember Rick Archie said that he used a 1/2 inch Allen wrench to open the jack up after removal. Watch out for those springs-- Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Wanderlodge Weatherford, Tx http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erni...gandrepair --- On Tue, 4/21/09, Eric Johnson wrote: From: Eric Johnson Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Tips On HWH Jack Removal & Installation To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 7:30 PM One of the rear HWH jacks (not the kick-down cylinder) sprung a leak and I am in the process of removal and repair. I talked to HWH tech support today and they weren't much help in discussing how to take a jack off the coach. A BB friend told me to remove the springs and jack pivot bolts in place, which I did. Removing the springs was not easy and required a crow bar and heavy hammer to get the job done. Putting this rigging back together after I get the seals replaced is going to be interesting. It looks like you could choose to remove the whole unit from the frame by undoing four bolts that hold the jack bracket to the coach. This would allow you to work on the springs out in the open with much better access. Looking for tips from those that have tackled this job. Thanks, Eric 84FC35SBWLII

[pattypape]

Eric,

I have read on these Forums that there may be an access panel
in the floor above the jack.
On our 88 FC, under the bed there are cutouts about 6 inches square,
But, I have not investigated this possibility.

Bill 88 FC Michigan


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ernie Ekberg wrote:
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> Eric, i remember Rick Archie said that he used a 1/2 inch Allen wrench to open
the jack up after removal. Watch out for those springs--
>
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Wanderlodge
> Weatherford, Tx
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erni...gandrepair
>
> --- On Tue, 4/21/09, Eric Johnson wrote:
>
> From: Eric Johnson
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Tips On HWH Jack Removal & Installation
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 7:30 PM
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> One of the rear HWH jacks (not the kick-down cylinder) sprung a leak and I am
in the process of removal and repair. I talked to HWH tech support today and
they weren't much help in discussing how to take a jack off the coach. A BB
friend told me to remove the springs and jack pivot bolts in place, which I did.
Removing the springs was not easy and required a crow bar and heavy hammer to
get the job done. Putting this rigging back together after I get the seals
replaced is going to be interesting.
>
> It looks like you could choose to remove the whole unit from the frame by
undoing four bolts that hold the jack bracket to the coach. This would allow you
to work on the springs out in the open with much better access.
>
> Looking for tips from those that have tackled this job.
>
> Thanks, Eric
> 84FC35SBWLII
>

[Ralph L. Fullenwider]

Eric:

Replace the springs only after the jack is installed back on the Coach. It
is way easier and less weight when stabbing bolts into the plate. I have
gone both ways on several occasions and the safest is after install.

Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
Duncan, Oklahoma

At 12:30 AM 4/22/2009 +0000, you wrote:
>One of the rear HWH jacks (not the kick-down cylinder) sprung a leak and I
>am in the process of removal and repair. I talked to HWH tech support
>today and they weren't much help in discussing how to take a jack off the
>coach. A BB friend told me to remove the springs and jack pivot bolts in
>place, which I did. Removing the springs was not easy and required a crow
>bar and heavy hammer to get the job done. Putting this rigging back
>together after I get the seals replaced is going to be interesting.
>
>It looks like you could choose to remove the whole unit from the frame by
>undoing four bolts that hold the jack bracket to the coach. This would
>allow you to work on the springs out in the open with much better access.
>
>Looking for tips from those that have tackled this job.
>
>Thanks, Eric
>84FC35SBWLII
>
>
>

[John Mann]

About 6 months ago I removed a front kick down and a rear jack on my 1985
pt40. I just removed the whole unit. I don't think there is enough room to put
the springs back on while its is up but maybe. I removed the whole assembly,
loosened the 4 bolts then remove the jack and take the springs and square frame
off when on the ground, I had the seals replaced at a local shop for about $40
bucks. It definitely wasn't easy getting the springs back on even on the ground.
It is a little heavy when all together, I then used a 2x4 with a block in the
middle and raised it up into the area and replaced the 4 bolts actually not that
bad because the assembly sits upright between the tires and you can raise it
right up.

John Mann
1985 pt40
Granbury Tx.


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> It looks like you could choose to remove the whole unit from the frame by
undoing four bolts that hold the jack bracket to the coach. This would allow
you to work on the springs out in the open with much better access.
>
> Looking for tips from those that have tackled this job.
>
> Thanks, Eric
> 84FC35SBWLII
>

[Ernie Ekberg]

John, that procedure is good to know about. My front jack leaks and I dreaded trying to pry the springs off. What was the shop that you took it to? Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Wanderlodge Weatherford, Tx http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erni...gandrepair --- On Tue, 4/21/09, John Mann wrote: From: John Mann Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Tips On HWH Jack Removal & Installation To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 8:23 PM About 6 months ago I removed a front kick down and a rear jack on my 1985 pt40. I just removed the whole unit. I don't think there is enough room to put the springs back on while its is up but maybe. I removed the whole assembly, loosened the 4 bolts then remove the jack and take the springs and square frame off when on the ground, I had the seals replaced at a local shop for about $40 bucks. It definitely wasn't easy getting the springs back on even on the ground. It is a little heavy when all together, I then used a 2x4 with a block in the middle and raised it up into the area and replaced the 4 bolts actually not that bad because the assembly sits upright between the tires and you can raise it right up. John Mann 1985 pt40 Granbury Tx. > > It looks like you could choose to remove the whole unit from the frame by undoing four bolts that hold the jack bracket to the coach. This would allow you to work on the springs out in the open with much better access. > > Looking for tips from those that have tackled this job. > > Thanks, Eric > 84FC35SBWLII >

[John Mann]

Ernie, it was a Hundley hydraulic shop in cleburne north of 67 on main street. I
actually took both jacks rear and the front one. They were unable to remove the
cover on the front fold down jack so they tried to drill a hole in which they
still couldn't separate the jack so I did purchase one from HWH 1/2 price with
exchange, pricey but better than full price. I tried to put the front jacks up
without the springs but I couldn't get the springs on after, so I just had to
put it up all together. I did both by myself mite help if you had someone else
to help.

John mann
1985 pt40
Granbury Tx.



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ernie Ekberg wrote:
>
> John, that procedure is good to know about. My front jack leaks and I dreaded
trying to pry the springs off. What was the shop that you took it to?
>
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Wanderlodge
> Weatherford, Tx
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erni...gandrepair
>
> --- On Tue, 4/21/09, John Mann wrote:
>
> From: John Mann
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Tips On HWH Jack Removal & Installation
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 8:23 PM
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> About 6 months ago I removed a front kick down and a rear jack on my 1985
pt40. I just removed the whole unit. I don't think there is enough room to put
the springs back on while its is up but maybe. I removed the whole assembly,
loosened the 4 bolts then remove the jack and take the springs and square frame
off when on the ground, I had the seals replaced at a local shop for about $40
bucks. It definitely wasn't easy getting the springs back on even on the ground.
It is a little heavy when all together, I then used a 2x4 with a block in the
middle and raised it up into the area and replaced the 4 bolts actually not that
bad because the assembly sits upright between the tires and you can raise it
right up.
>
> John Mann
> 1985 pt40
> Granbury Tx.
>
> >
> > It looks like you could choose to remove the whole unit from the frame by
undoing four bolts that hold the jack bracket to the coach. This would allow you
to work on the springs out in the open with much better access.
> >
> > Looking for tips from those that have tackled this job.
> >
> > Thanks, Eric
> > 84FC35SBWLII
> >
>

[Ernie Ekberg]

Thanks, John. I might need to find a "volunteer"? Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Wanderlodge Weatherford, Tx http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erni...gandrepair --- On Wed, 4/22/09, John Mann wrote: From: John Mann Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Tips On HWH Jack Removal & Installation To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 4:46 PM Ernie, it was a Hundley hydraulic shop in cleburne north of 67 on main street. I actually took both jacks rear and the front one. They were unable to remove the cover on the front fold down jack so they tried to drill a hole in which they still couldn't separate the jack so I did purchase one from HWH 1/2 price with exchange, pricey but better than full price. I tried to put the front jacks up without the springs but I couldn't get the springs on after, so I just had to put it up all together. I did both by myself mite help if you had someone else to help. John mann 1985 pt40 Granbury Tx. --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Ernie Ekberg wrote: > > John, that procedure is good to know about. My front jack leaks and I dreaded trying to pry the springs off. What was the shop that you took it to? > > > Ernie Ekberg > 83PT40 > Wanderlodge > Weatherford, Tx > http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ erniesremodeling andrepair > > --- On Tue, 4/21/09, John Mann wrote: > > From: John Mann > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Tips On HWH Jack Removal & Installation > To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com" > Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 8:23 PM > > > > > > > > > About 6 months ago I removed a front kick down and a rear jack on my 1985 pt40. I just removed the whole unit. I don't think there is enough room to put the springs back on while its is up but maybe. I removed the whole assembly, loosened the 4 bolts then remove the jack and take the springs and square frame off when on the ground, I had the seals replaced at a local shop for about $40 bucks. It definitely wasn't easy getting the springs back on even on the ground. It is a little heavy when all together, I then used a 2x4 with a block in the middle and raised it up into the area and replaced the 4 bolts actually not that bad because the assembly sits upright between the tires and you can raise it right up. > > John Mann > 1985 pt40 > Granbury Tx. > > > > > It looks like you could choose to remove the whole unit from the frame by undoing four bolts that hold the jack bracket to the coach. This would allow you to work on the springs out in the open with much better access. > > > > Looking for tips from those that have tackled this job. > > > > Thanks, Eric > > 84FC35SBWLII > > >