An education in flooring

[Ernest Ekberg]

I am currently in NC working with David Brady on his 02Lxi. We have removed the
carpet up front to reveal some water and mold damage.The flooring in his coach
began with the galvanized metal as the base and then BB installed 3/4 inch
plywood. Over the plywood they installed, 1/4 inch cork which came in 4 foot
rolls. On top of that came 1/2 inch birch plywood. Then the carpet and pad was
installed.
In the kitchen thru the bath is the same plywood, cork, 1/2 inch birch, then 1/4
inch underlayment where they installed Amtico luxury vinyl tile.
We have found that with all that on the floor, it does help in noise reduction.
We also found that when you walk on the floor, that it moves under foot. To
counteract the movement we have installed many more screws in areas to stabilize
the floor in preperation for wood.
The cabinets, closets, bath fixtures were all installed after all this
underlayment was put down. So, David has a to die for electric saw that we are
using to cut around the base of the cabinets and walls to take up the 1/4
underlayment.
Thus, there will be the 3/4 plywood, cork, and 1/2 inch plywood all on one level
ready for new wood.
This has been one learning curve about how many different ways that BB worked
for individual owners wishes.
Ernie Ekberg
83PT40- bus in Texas
Cornelius, NC

[Jack and Liz Pearce]

Very interesting stuff, Ernie. Thanks for posting it. How's the weather up there in NC?
Regards,
Jack and Liz Pearce
Fulltiming in a 1993 Wanderlodge WB40
D'Hanis, TX in the winter
Buena Vista, CO in the summer

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--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ernest Ekberg" wrote:
>
> I am currently in NC working with David Brady on his 02Lxi. We have removed the carpet up front to reveal some water and mold damage.The flooring in his coach began with the galvanized metal as the base and then BB installed 3/4 inch plywood. Over the plywood they installed, 1/4 inch cork which came in 4 foot rolls. On top of that came 1/2 inch birch plywood. Then the carpet and pad was installed.
> In the kitchen thru the bath is the same plywood, cork, 1/2 inch birch, then 1/4 inch underlayment where they installed Amtico luxury vinyl tile.
> We have found that with all that on the floor, it does help in noise reduction. We also found that when you walk on the floor, that it moves under foot. To counteract the movement we have installed many more screws in areas to stabilize the floor in preperation for wood.
> The cabinets, closets, bath fixtures were all installed after all this underlayment was put down. So, David has a to die for electric saw that we are using to cut around the base of the cabinets and walls to take up the 1/4 underlayment.
> Thus, there will be the 3/4 plywood, cork, and 1/2 inch plywood all on one level ready for new wood.
> This has been one learning curve about how many different ways that BB worked for individual owners wishes.
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40- bus in Texas
> Cornelius, NC
>

[Ernie Ekberg]

Hi Liz, the weather has been outstanding. The Nascar race is Sunday and everything is busy. Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Wanderlodge Weatherford, Tx http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erni...gandrepair --- On Thu, 5/21/09, Jack and Liz Pearce wrote: From: Jack and Liz Pearce Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: An education in flooring To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 9:28 AM Very interesting stuff, Ernie. Thanks for posting it. How's the weather up there in NC? Regards, Jack and Liz Pearce Fulltiming in a 1993 Wanderlodge WB40 D'Hanis, TX in the winter Buena Vista, CO in the summer ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Ernest Ekberg" wrote: > > I am currently in NC working with David Brady on his 02Lxi. We have removed the carpet up front to reveal some water and mold damage.The flooring in his coach began with the galvanized metal as the base and then BB installed 3/4 inch plywood. Over the plywood they installed, 1/4 inch cork which came in 4 foot rolls. On top of that came 1/2 inch birch plywood. Then the carpet and pad was installed. > In the kitchen thru the bath is the same plywood, cork, 1/2 inch birch, then 1/4 inch underlayment where they installed Amtico luxury vinyl tile. > We have found that with all that on the floor, it does help in noise reduction. We also found that when you walk on the floor, that it moves under foot. To counteract the movement we have installed many more screws in areas to stabilize the floor in preperation for wood. > The cabinets, closets, bath fixtures were all installed after all this underlayment was put down. So, David has a to die for electric saw that we are using to cut around the base of the cabinets and walls to take up the 1/4 underlayment. > Thus, there will be the 3/4 plywood, cork, and 1/2 inch plywood all on one level ready for new wood. > This has been one learning curve about how many different ways that BB worked for individual owners wishes. > Ernie Ekberg > 83PT40- bus in Texas > Cornelius, NC >

[nkeese33]

Ernest and Dave,

It was good meeting you on Monday Memeorial Day. I appreciate you stopping by
to see my Vintage Bird in the parking lot of Lowes and appreciated the invite to
this forum. I hope Dave's flooring job went well.

I am looking forward to correcting some issues with my Vintage Bird in the next
several weeks. I will post my successes (optimism) as:

the generator slide is re-built,
the AC invertor is replaced and reimplemented into the coach's AC power delivery
system,
the generator auto shut-off problem is investigated and corrected,
the on-board A/C unit is diagnosed and repaired (2 out of 3 work OK),
the engine A/C is re-enabled,
and dashboard wiring is upgraded with new reliable toggle switches.

Keeping it rolling.

Regards,
Nick Keesee
1979 38' FC



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ernest Ekberg" wrote:
>
> I am currently in NC working with David Brady on his 02Lxi. We have removed
the carpet up front to reveal some water and mold damage.The flooring in his
coach began with the galvanized metal as the base and then BB installed 3/4 inch
plywood. Over the plywood they installed, 1/4 inch cork which came in 4 foot
rolls. On top of that came 1/2 inch birch plywood. Then the carpet and pad was
installed.
> In the kitchen thru the bath is the same plywood, cork, 1/2 inch birch, then
1/4 inch underlayment where they installed Amtico luxury vinyl tile.
> We have found that with all that on the floor, it does help in noise
reduction. We also found that when you walk on the floor, that it moves under
foot. To counteract the movement we have installed many more screws in areas to
stabilize the floor in preperation for wood.
> The cabinets, closets, bath fixtures were all installed after all this
underlayment was put down. So, David has a to die for electric saw that we are
using to cut around the base of the cabinets and walls to take up the 1/4
underlayment.
> Thus, there will be the 3/4 plywood, cork, and 1/2 inch plywood all on one
level ready for new wood.
> This has been one learning curve about how many different ways that BB worked
for individual owners wishes.
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40- bus in Texas
> Cornelius, NC
>

[Ernie Ekberg]

Hi Nick, you have a nice looking coach. Hope we can help you here with your projects. Ernie Ekberg- currently in Pearl, Ms 83PT40 Wanderlodge Weatherford, Tx http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erni...gandrepair --- On Thu, 5/28/09, nkeese33 wrote: From: nkeese33 Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: An education in flooring To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 6:28 PM Ernest and Dave, It was good meeting you on Monday Memeorial Day. I appreciate you stopping by to see my Vintage Bird in the parking lot of Lowes and appreciated the invite to this forum. I hope Dave's flooring job went well. I am looking forward to correcting some issues with my Vintage Bird in the next several weeks. I will post my successes (optimism) as: the generator slide is re-built, the AC invertor is replaced and reimplemented into the coach's AC power delivery system, the generator auto shut-off problem is investigated and corrected, the on-board A/C unit is diagnosed and repaired (2 out of 3 work OK), the engine A/C is re-enabled, and dashboard wiring is upgraded with new reliable toggle switches. Keeping it rolling. Regards, Nick Keesee 1979 38' FC --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Ernest Ekberg" wrote: > > I am currently in NC working with David Brady on his 02Lxi. We have removed the carpet up front to reveal some water and mold damage.The flooring in his coach began with the galvanized metal as the base and then BB installed 3/4 inch plywood. Over the plywood they installed, 1/4 inch cork which came in 4 foot rolls. On top of that came 1/2 inch birch plywood. Then the carpet and pad was installed. > In the kitchen thru the bath is the same plywood, cork, 1/2 inch birch, then 1/4 inch underlayment where they installed Amtico luxury vinyl tile. > We have found that with all that on the floor, it does help in noise reduction. We also found that when you walk on the floor, that it moves under foot. To counteract the movement we have installed many more screws in areas to stabilize the floor in preperation for wood. > The cabinets, closets, bath fixtures were all installed after all this underlayment was put down. So, David has a to die for electric saw that we are using to cut around the base of the cabinets and walls to take up the 1/4 underlayment. > Thus, there will be the 3/4 plywood, cork, and 1/2 inch plywood all on one level ready for new wood. > This has been one learning curve about how many different ways that BB worked for individual owners wishes. > Ernie Ekberg > 83PT40- bus in Texas > Cornelius, NC >

[David Brady]

Hi Nick,

It was great meeting you too. You've got a great coach. Don't forget
to add paint to your list:

Navarro's Body Shop Los Algodones Mexico

And, if you need flooring, there's none better than Ernie Ekberg.

David Brady
'02 LXi, NC

-----Original Message-----

From: nkeese33

Sent: May 28, 2009 7:28 PM

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: An education in flooring

Ernest and Dave,



It was good meeting you on Monday Memeorial Day. I appreciate you stopping by to see my Vintage Bird in the parking lot of Lowes and appreciated the invite to this forum. I hope Dave's flooring job went well.



I am looking forward to correcting some issues with my Vintage Bird in the next several weeks. I will post my successes (optimism) as:



the generator slide is re-built,

the AC invertor is replaced and reimplemented into the coach's AC power delivery system,

the generator auto shut-off problem is investigated and corrected,

the on-board A/C unit is diagnosed and repaired (2 out of 3 work OK),

the engine A/C is re-enabled,

and dashboard wiring is upgraded with new reliable toggle switches.



Keeping it rolling.



Regards,

Nick Keesee

1979 38' FC



--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Ernest Ekberg" .> wrote:

>

> I am currently in NC working with David Brady on his 02Lxi. We have removed the carpet up front to reveal some water and mold damage.The flooring in his coach began with the galvanized metal as the base and then BB installed 3/4 inch plywood. Over the plywood they installed, 1/4 inch cork which came in 4 foot rolls. On top of that came 1/2 inch birch plywood. Then the carpet and pad was installed.

> In the kitchen thru the bath is the same plywood, cork, 1/2 inch birch, then 1/4 inch underlayment where they installed Amtico luxury vinyl tile.

> We have found that with all that on the floor, it does help in noise reduction. We also found that when you walk on the floor, that it moves under foot. To counteract the movement we have installed many more screws in areas to stabilize the floor in preperation for wood.

> The cabinets, closets, bath fixtures were all installed after all this underlayment was put down. So, David has a to die for electric saw that we are using to cut around the base of the cabinets and walls to take up the 1/4 underlayment.

> Thus, there will be the 3/4 plywood, cork, and 1/2 inch plywood all on one level ready for new wood.

> This has been one learning curve about how many different ways that BB worked for individual owners wishes.

> Ernie Ekberg

> 83PT40- bus in Texas

> Cornelius, NC

>

[jburgessx2]

This Navarro's in Mexico - I'm guessing someone (or many) have had their BB
painted there. If so, what does it cost to paint a 40' steel coach there? My
Bird is okay but a new coat of paint would make it look better.

Jerry
85 PT40

[Curt Sprenger]

Jerry,

Give them a call...

Navarro's Shop

Body Paint and Upholstery Shop

Enrique or  Socorro
Navarro

Algodones, MX - just across the border in AZ

U.S. Telephone:928-343-2750

Many member s have used them with great results.

Curt Sprenger

1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"

Anaheim Hills, CA
Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.

"Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally"

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 7:33 AM, jburgessx2 <"jburgessx2@yahoo.com"> wrote:

This Navarro's in Mexico - I'm guessing someone (or many) have had their BB painted there. If so, what does it cost to paint a 40' steel coach there? My Bird is okay but a new coat of paint would make it look better.



Jerry

85 PT40

[David Brady]

They have a web site:

http://www.navarrosshop.com/index.php

NFI

David Brady
'02 LXi, NC

-----Original Message-----

From: Curt Sprenger

Sent: May 29, 2009 10:46 AM

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: An education in flooring

Jerry,

Give them a call...

Navarro's Shop

Body Paint and Upholstery Shop

Enrique or Socorro
Navarro

Algodones, MX - just across the border in AZ

U.S. Telephone:928-343-2750

Many member s have used them with great results.

Curt Sprenger

1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"

Anaheim Hills, CA
Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.

"Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally"

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 7:33 AM, jburgessx2 <"jburgessx2@yahoo.com"> wrote:

This Navarro's in Mexico - I'm guessing someone (or many) have had their BB painted there. If so, what does it cost to paint a 40' steel coach there? My Bird is okay but a new coat of paint would make it look better.



Jerry

85 PT40