Need an opinion

[sfedeli3]

Jerry, (and others)

I had my 85PT40 done with Imron in the original pattern/style back in 2005
for around $9500. In the slow economy, you will probably find shops willing to
work for a little less- and they will be grateful for the work. My job isn't
perfect, but it looks original. The shop that did mine was Kolors East in
Myerstown, PA.

Shane Fedeli
85PT40
Hershey, PA

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "jburgessx2" wrote:
>
> It can be a tough call when money is an issue. My brother works for a paint
shop in Lakeland, FL and he told me a typical paint job for a Wanderlodge runs
about $25k-$40k. While I'm sure the workmanship is outstanding, it's tough to
cough up $30k for a paint job on an 85 PT40 that NADA books at $27k. It's one
of those things where you'll never, ever get your money back.
>
> Now, if money weren't an issue, I would be all for the best paint job ever by
the best painters in the States!
>
> Jerry
> 85 PT40
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "timvasqz" wrote:
> >
> > Bruce it is several Navaro jobs that I critique. Maybe they were Monday
morning paint jobs. The on-the-job education like learning to remove awnings!!!
and checking for bare metal on areas sanded by hand and run down thru the
prepaint coating is where in time, once in a while they may get things right.
There can never be a replacement for the superior quality of USA craftmenship
and service. Kind of the reason Canadians buy Wanderlodges.
> >
> >
> > I don't believe you get what you pay for but you can demand it in the US
> > Greg ofTim&Greg
> > 94ptca
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "birdshill123"
wrote:
> > >
> > > Greg:
> > >
> > > Maybe your xperience with Mexican body shops is in TJ. But Navaroo's in
Algadones has a superb reputation. The prep is awesome as they hand sand the
whole coach. There are bus conversions running around that had jobs done there
beyond 5 years and they still look good. He has gotten better with removing
external items such as awnings. I would not hesitate to have my unit painted in
his shop. The cost difference is in the labor not the paint.
> > >
> > >
> > > Bruce
> > >
> > > 88 FC 35
> > >
> >
>

[timvasqz]

Mike, I agree with you 100% many folks compare Mexico price savings and do not
qualify the level of value they contracted. the damage is that good United
States dollars goes out of our economy.

Trade is fair but to compare price without qualifying is damaging to the good
harworking environmentally compliant USA craftman. Unlike your friend, The
average consumer has not the time or knowledge to make management inspection of
the prep and coating process. I bet you friend will be screeming once again in 5
to 7 years.

The best thing about owners looking at their paint prep is they always feel the
need to rub their greasy hands on the prep.
Greg of Tim&Greg
94ptCA


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...> wrote:
>
> Greg,
>
> Perhaps the perception of the quality of the Navarro paint jobs that you saw
lies in not in knowing what level of work the owner specified when contracting
with them. Remember, even Earl Scheib's has menu pricing.
>
> I've only seen one of Navarro's paint jobs (that I know of anyway) up close
and personal, but it was very well done. However, that owner spelled out
exactly what he wanted done up front and he went in each day during the process
to inspect the work and to point out anything that was unacceptable or not the
way he wanted it. The end result was a *very* good paint job. And for the price
that owner paid, it was beyond a screaming deal, that he could not have touched
in the states.
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "timvasqz" wrote:
> >
> > Bruce it is several Navaro jobs that I critique. Maybe they were Monday
morning paint jobs. The on-the-job education like learning to remove awnings!!!
and checking for bare metal on areas sanded by hand and run down thru the
prepaint coating is where in time, once in a while they may get things right.
There can never be a replacement for the superior quality of USA craftmenship
and service. Kind of the reason Canadians buy Wanderlodges.
> >
> >
> > I don't believe you get what you pay for but you can demand it in the US
> > Greg ofTim&Greg
> > 94ptca
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "birdshill123"
wrote:
> > >
> > > Greg:
> > >
> > > Maybe your xperience with Mexican body shops is in TJ. But Navaroo's in
Algadones has a superb reputation. The prep is awesome as they hand sand the
whole coach. There are bus conversions running around that had jobs done there
beyond 5 years and they still look good. He has gotten better with removing
external items such as awnings. I would not hesitate to have my unit painted in
his shop. The cost difference is in the labor not the paint.
> > >
> > >
> > > Bruce
> > >
> > > 88 FC 35
> > >
> >
>

[birdshill123]

Guesss where most of the good painters and body men originate? Yes they are
Mexicans. Just tour any of the West Coast RV mfrs. ( not many left) and all you
see are Mexicans in the paint shop. At one time they did not remove awnings but
now that is being done. I bet they could do a nice flame job on one of you dump
trucks!!


Bruce

1988 FC35

[birdshill123]

Being as Stephen jumped in I will add some to my last post. Greg: We do not have
much of a MH industry in Canada. Smaller population and hard working people who
do not have the "toys" that you Yanks enjoy. But if we had built Wanderlodges
they would have been better!!! Think of the Canadarm ! I also agree with Stephen
that the later model BB's are not good units.


Bruce
1988 FC35

[birdshill123]

We just had our FC dinette and sofa recovered in Mexico. The owner of the shop
drove 65 miles to my shop and looked at everything before I removed the piecs.
When the job was completed they returned and the 3 of us reinstalled everything.
The workmanship was amazing and the cost at least 40 % below American prices.
The owner told me he heard about shops that used to use straw and burrow dung
to fill cushions. This is a Mexican urban legend from the 50's!!


Bruce

1988 FC35

[jim riordan]

well different strokes (some might have them when seeing the bus) for different folks. I have seen the /"RAINBOW" bumper sticker on some vehicles! Greg probally would love this bus! jim riordan --- On Sat, 6/20/09, hippieforever3 wrote: From: hippieforever3 Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Need an opinion To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 5:58 PM Our 1984 badly needs new paint. We're intending to go to Mexico and Central America later this year after sorting out all the mechanicals. We're thinking to get the bus prepped and painted down south somewhere where the labor is cheaper. We were trying to settle on a color scheme and finally came up with this: http://costaricabyg ps.com/WIPside6. gif WHAT DO YOU THINK? Any non-obscene comments are welcome. Regards, Hippieforever and GPSGary

[John]

Gary,

To each his own,,,,,,, not my choice though

John

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well different strokes (some might have them when seeing the bus) for different folks. I have seen the /"RAINBOW" bumper sticker on some vehicles! Greg probally would love this bus! jim riordan --- On Sat, 6/20/09, hippieforever3 <"debra@ticogps.com"> wrote: From: hippieforever3 <"debra@ticogps.com"> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Need an opinion To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 5:58 PM Our 1984 badly needs new paint. We're intending to go to Mexico and Central America later this year after sorting out all the mechanicals. We're thinking to get the bus prepped and painted down south somewhere where the labor is cheaper. We were trying to settle on a color scheme and finally came up with this: http://costaricabyg ps.com/WIPside6. gif WHAT DO YOU THINK? Any non-obscene comments are welcome. Regards, Hippieforever and GPSGary

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[Greg Young]

Hmm... Another Greg (me) would love this choice as well. But a big rainbow bus is, IMHO, essentially asking for over-zealous law enforcement people to pull you over.

Greg Young
1986 PT-40 "Bluefire"
now in Covert MI after an amazing weekend at Lakes of Fire (http://www.lakesoffire.org/)

Each time you judge yourself you break your heart.
-Kirpal Venanji

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jim riordan
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 7:16:28 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Need an opinion

well different strokes (some might have them when seeing the bus) for different folks. I have seen the /"RAINBOW" bumper sticker on some vehicles! Greg probally would love this bus! jim riordan --- On Sat, 6/20/09, hippieforever3 wrote: From: hippieforever3 Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Need an opinion To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 5:58 PM Our 1984 badly needs new paint. We're intending to go to Mexico and Central America later this year after sorting out all the mechanicals. We're thinking to get the bus prepped and painted down south somewhere where the labor is cheaper. We were trying to settle on a color scheme and finally came up with this: http://costaricabyg ps.com/WIPside6. gif WHAT DO YOU THINK? Any non-obscene comments are welcome. Regards, Hippieforever and GPSGary