reverse polarity/general maintenance

[Randal Akers]

To follow up on the electrical problem, the electrician says it is a short in the alternating current. E verything works with the generator but the electrical line keeps throwing the breaker at the house. He tried following the line into the coach but was unsuccessful. I'd like to find a knowledgeable BB guy in the Kennesaw, GA area or as far south as Atlanta. Thanks. Randy Akers --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Randal Akers wrote: From: Randal Akers Subject: reverse polarity/general maintenance To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 12:47 PM I recently purchased an 86 38' BB from Scott Forman. He told me about this forum. The coach has developed a problem in the electrical system. Everytime I try to plug it in to an outlet it throws a breaker at my house. The problem is not at my house. Also, I'd like to find someone that knows Bluebirds to do maintenance on mine. Thanks. Randy Akers

[pattypape]

Turn off the Main circuit breakers. and Try again,

Check the AC cable to the Bird and both plugs.

Bill 88 FC Michigan

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Randal Akers wrote:
>
> To follow up on the electrical problem, the electrician says it is a short in
the alternating current. E verything works with the generator but the
electrical line keeps throwing the breaker at the house. He tried following the
line into the coach but was unsuccessful. I'd like to find a knowledgeable BB
guy in the Kennesaw, GA area or as far south as Atlanta. Thanks. Randy Akers
> --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Randal Akers wrote:
>
>
> From: Randal Akers
> Subject: reverse polarity/general maintenance
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 12:47 PM
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>
>
> I recently purchased an 86 38' BB from Scott Forman. He told me about this
forum.   The coach has developed a problem in the electrical system. Everytime
I try to plug it in to an outlet it throws a breaker at my house. The problem
is not at my house. Also, I'd like to find someone that knows Bluebirds to do
maintenance on mine. Thanks. Randy Akers
>

[Ernie Ekberg]

This sounds like it may be a wire loose in the electrical line- take apart the plugs and check that out. Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Wanderlodge Weatherford, Tx http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erni...gandrepair --- On Sat, 7/4/09, Randal Akers wrote: From: Randal Akers Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: reverse polarity/general maintenance To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009, 9:04 PM To follow up on the electrical problem, the electrician says it is a short in the alternating current. E verything works with the generator but the electrical line keeps throwing the breaker at the house. He tried following the line into the coach but was unsuccessful. I'd like to find a knowledgeable BB guy in the Kennesaw, GA area or as far south as Atlanta. Thanks. Randy Akers --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Randal Akers wrote: From: Randal Akers Subject: reverse polarity/general maintenance To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 12:47 PM I recently purchased an 86 38' BB from Scott Forman. He told me about this forum. The coach has developed a problem in the electrical system. Everytime I try to plug it in to an outlet it throws a breaker at my house. The problem is not at my house. Also, I'd like to find someone that knows Bluebirds to do maintenance on mine. Thanks. Randy Akers

[pattypape]

Pretty scary!!! Thinking like Ernie at the same time.

Bill 88 FC Michigan

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ernie Ekberg wrote:
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> This sounds like it may be a wire loose in the electrical line- take apart the
plugs and check that out.
>
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Wanderlodge
> Weatherford, Tx
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erni...gandrepair
>
> --- On Sat, 7/4/09, Randal Akers wrote:
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> From: Randal Akers
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: reverse polarity/general maintenance
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009, 9:04 PM
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> To follow up on the electrical problem, the electrician says it is a short in
the alternating current. E verything works with the generator but the
electrical line keeps throwing the breaker at the house. He tried following the
line into the coach but was unsuccessful. I'd like to find a knowledgeable BB
guy in the Kennesaw, GA area or as far south as Atlanta. Thanks. Randy Akers
> --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Randal Akers wrote:
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> From: Randal Akers
> Subject: reverse polarity/general maintenance
> To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 12:47 PM
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>
> I recently purchased an 86 38' BB from Scott Forman. He told me about this
forum.   The coach has developed a problem in the electrical system. Everytime
I try to plug it in to an outlet it throws a breaker at my house. The problem
is not at my house. Also, I'd like to find someone that knows Bluebirds to do
maintenance on mine. Thanks. Randy Akers
>

[Ernie Ekberg]

and I haven't had my coffee, yet. Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Wanderlodge Weatherford, Tx http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erni...gandrepair --- On Sun, 7/5/09, pattypape wrote: From: pattypape Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: reverse polarity/general maintenance To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 5:59 AM Pretty scary!!! Thinking like Ernie at the same time. Bill 88 FC Michigan --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Ernie Ekberg wrote: > > This sounds like it may be a wire loose in the electrical line- take apart the plugs and check that out. > > > Ernie Ekberg > 83PT40 > Wanderlodge > Weatherford, Tx > http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ erniesremodeling andrepair > > --- On Sat, 7/4/09, Randal Akers wrote: > > > From: Randal Akers > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: reverse polarity/general maintenance > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com > Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009, 9:04 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > To follow up on the electrical problem, the electrician says it is a short in the alternating current. E verything works with the generator but the electrical line keeps throwing the breaker at the house. He tried following the line into the coach but was unsuccessful. I'd like to find a knowledgeable BB guy in the Kennesaw, GA area or as far south as Atlanta. Thanks. Randy Akers > --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Randal Akers wrote: > > > From: Randal Akers yahoo.com> > Subject: reverse polarity/general maintenance > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com > Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 12:47 PM > > > > > > > I recently purchased an 86 38' BB from Scott Forman. He told me about this forum. The coach has developed a problem in the electrical system. Everytime I try to plug it in to an outlet it throws a breaker at my house. The problem is not at my house. Also, I'd like to find someone that knows Bluebirds to do maintenance on mine. Thanks. Randy Akers >

[Randal Akers]

Thanks for the suggestion but we have tried that. While the coach was parked and connected to park power water got into the adapter connection and melted it. I purchased a new adapter but from that point on it throws the breaker. That leads the electrician that it probably shorted something inside the coach. --- On Sun, 7/5/09, Ernie Ekberg wrote: From: Ernie Ekberg Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: reverse polarity/general maintenance To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 7:05 AM and I haven't had my coffee, yet. Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Wanderlodge Weatherford, Tx http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ erniesremodeling andrepair --- On Sun, 7/5/09, pattypape wrote: From: pattypape Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: reverse polarity/general maintenance To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 5:59 AM Pretty scary!!! Thinking like Ernie at the same time. Bill 88 FC Michigan --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Ernie Ekberg wrote: > > This sounds like it may be a wire loose in the electrical line- take apart the plugs and check that out. > > > Ernie Ekberg > 83PT40 > Wanderlodge > Weatherford, Tx > http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ erniesremodeling andrepair > > --- On Sat, 7/4/09, Randal Akers wrote: > > > From: Randal Akers > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: reverse polarity/general maintenance > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com > Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009, 9:04 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > To follow up on the electrical problem, the electrician says it is a short in the alternating current. E verything works with the generator but the electrical line keeps throwing the breaker at the house. He tried following the line into the coach but was unsuccessful. I'd like to find a knowledgeable BB guy in the Kennesaw, GA area or as far south as Atlanta. Thanks. Randy Akers > --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Randal Akers wrote: > > > From: Randal Akers > Subject: reverse polarity/general maintenance > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com > Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 12:47 PM > > > > > > > I recently purchased an 86 38' BB from Scott Forman. He told me about this forum. The coach has developed a problem in the electrical system. Everytime I try to plug it in to an outlet it throws a breaker at my house. The problem is not at my house. Also, I'd like to find someone that knows Bluebirds to do maintenance on mine. Thanks. Randy Akers >

[Gregory OConnor]

The problem here is testing by plugging it in constantly puts continual damage
at risk. a circuit breaker wont trip untill it heats up while making something
cook. since the genset runs the system with out issue, the problem must be at
transfer or in the shorecord line to the transfer switch???? I also think the
repair is simple if you start from basics and learn the dynamics.

the transfer switch is a device that automatically gateways
powercompany/shorecord electric and genset driven electric. two inputs to the
transfer switch but one output out to the bus grey houselike circuit box.

run the gen set on the bus. "carefully" test for voltage on your shore cord
plug-in prongs. if voltage is there you have issue with the transfer switch.
shut off the genset and insulate the shorecord prongs while stowed. Replace the
transfer switch.

second test:
It would work best to have someone dis connect the shorecord input to the
transfer switch / at the transfer switch (while unpluggged, no inverter or
genset on/lm). At this point the shore cord is like an extension cord,
un-attached. at either end you can test the un attached/shorecord 4 wires for
continuity to each combination. if there is any continuity (continuous path )
there is a short in the shore cord. you may want to unroll the cord prior to a
test to duplicate the state when the problem exists.

if continuity in this shore cord unattached, next test;
find any place along that path of wires from end to end where there is a
terminal, connection or repair. (stow bay, plug end) separate the wires at that
junction then retest both sides of the cord path for continuity untill you find
the section that has the continuous path problem. it could be at the plug.



note that even attached to the transfer switch the common prong and the ground
prong should not be continuous; should not show continuity.

I am sure your request for info to this most probable existing condition was
responded to with a refax of at-sale disclosure statement.

Greg ofTim&Greg
94ptca


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Randal Akers wrote:
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> Thanks for the suggestion but we have tried that. While the coach was parked
and connected to park power water got into the adapter connection and melted it.
I purchased a new adapter but from that point on it throws the breaker. That
leads the electrician that it probably shorted something inside the coach.
> --- On Sun, 7/5/09, Ernie Ekberg wrote:
>
>
> From: Ernie Ekberg
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: reverse polarity/general maintenance
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 7:05 AM
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> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Wanderlodge
> Weatherford, Tx
> http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ erniesremodeling andrepair
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> --- On Sun, 7/5/09, pattypape wrote:
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> From: pattypape
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: reverse polarity/general maintenance
> To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 5:59 AM
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> Bill 88 FC Michigan
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> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Ernie Ekberg wrote:
> >
> > This sounds like it may be a wire loose in the electrical line- take apart
the plugs and check that out.
> >
> >
> > Ernie Ekberg
> > 83PT40
> > Wanderlodge
> > Weatherford, Tx
> > http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ erniesremodeling andrepair
> >
> > --- On Sat, 7/4/09, Randal Akers wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Randal Akers
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: reverse polarity/general maintenance
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009, 9:04 PM
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> > To follow up on the electrical problem, the electrician says it is a short
in the alternating current. E verything works with the generator but the
electrical line keeps throwing the breaker at the house. He tried following the
line into the coach but was unsuccessful. I'd like to find a knowledgeable BB
guy in the Kennesaw, GA area or as far south as Atlanta. Thanks. Randy Akers
> > --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Randal Akers wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Randal Akers
> > Subject: reverse polarity/general maintenance
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 12:47 PM
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> > I recently purchased an 86 38' BB from Scott Forman. He told me about this
forum.   The coach has developed a problem in the electrical system. Everytime
I try to plug it in to an outlet it throws a breaker at my house. The problem
is not at my house. Also, I'd like to find someone that knows Bluebirds to do
maintenance on mine. Thanks. Randy Akers
> >
>

[rogerwwebb@...]

If you already haven't, I agree with Ernie that you should disassemble your 50 amp plug and look for burns/shorts. It is an easy check and could be the source of your problem.

Roger Webb

91WL

Cedar Rapids, IA

In a message dated 7/5/2009 5:18:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, randalakers@... writes:

I have used three different lines from the coach. It still throws the switch. I'm convinced there's a short or some type of problem within the coach and not the lines. --- On Sun, 7/5/09, Ernie Ekberg com> wrote: From: Ernie Ekberg com> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: reverse polarity/general maintenance To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 4:25 PM some of those adapters I have purchased cfrom camping world were not good. have you taken apart the plug that fits into the coach? Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Wanderlodge Weatherford, Tx http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ erniesremodeling andrepair --- On Sun, 7/5/09, Randal Akers wrote: From: Randal Akers Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: reverse polarity/general maintenance To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 9:27 AM Thanks for the suggestion but we have tried that. While the coach was parked and connected to park power water got into the adapter connection and melted it. I purchased a new adapter but from that point on it throws the breaker. That leads the electrician that it probably shorted something inside the coach. --- On Sun, 7/5/09, Ernie Ekberg wrote: From: Ernie Ekberg Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: reverse polarity/general maintenance To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 7:05 AM and I haven't had my coffee, yet. Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Wanderlodge Weatherford, Tx http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ erniesremodeling andrepair --- On Sun, 7/5/09, pattypape wrote: From: pattypape Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: reverse polarity/general maintenance To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 5:59 AM Pretty scary!!! Thinking like Ernie at the same time. Bill 88 FC Michigan --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Ernie Ekberg wrote: > > This sounds like it may be a wire loose in the electrical line- take apart the plugs and check that out. > > > Ernie Ekberg > 83PT40 > Wanderlodge > Weatherford, Tx > http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ erniesremodeling andrepair > > --- On Sat, 7/4/09, Randal Akers wrote: > > > From: Randal Akers > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: reverse polarity/general maintenance > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com > Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009, 9:04 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > To follow up on the electrical problem, the electrician says it is a short in the alternating current. E verything works with the generator but the electrical line keeps throwing the breaker at the house. He tried following the line into the coach but was unsuccessful. I'd like to find a knowledgeable BB guy in the Kennesaw, GA area or as far south as Atlanta. Thanks. Randy Akers > --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Randal Akers wrote: > > > From: Randal Akers > Subject: reverse polarity/general maintenance > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com > Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 12:47 PM > > > > > > > I recently purchased an 86 38' BB from Scott Forman. He told me about this forum. The coach has developed a problem in the electrical system. Everytime I try to plug it in to an outlet it throws a breaker at my house. The problem is not at my house. Also, I'd like to find someone that knows Bluebirds to do maintenance on mine. Thanks. Randy Akers >

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[Ernie Ekberg]

some of those adapters I have purchased cfrom camping world were not good. have you taken apart the plug that fits into the coach? Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Wanderlodge Weatherford, Tx http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erni...gandrepair --- On Sun, 7/5/09, Randal Akers wrote: From: Randal Akers Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: reverse polarity/general maintenance To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 9:27 AM Thanks for the suggestion but we have tried that. While the coach was parked and connected to park power water got into the adapter connection and melted it. I purchased a new adapter but from that point on it throws the breaker. That leads the electrician that it probably shorted something inside the coach. --- On Sun, 7/5/09, Ernie Ekberg wrote: From: Ernie Ekberg Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: reverse polarity/general maintenance To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 7:05 AM and I haven't had my coffee, yet. Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Wanderlodge Weatherford, Tx http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ erniesremodeling andrepair --- On Sun, 7/5/09, pattypape wrote: From: pattypape Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: reverse polarity/general maintenance To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 5:59 AM Pretty scary!!! Thinking like Ernie at the same time. Bill 88 FC Michigan --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Ernie Ekberg wrote: > > This sounds like it may be a wire loose in the electrical line- take apart the plugs and check that out. > > > Ernie Ekberg > 83PT40 > Wanderlodge > Weatherford, Tx > http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ erniesremodeling andrepair > > --- On Sat, 7/4/09, Randal Akers wrote: > > > From: Randal Akers > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: reverse polarity/general maintenance > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com > Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009, 9:04 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > To follow up on the electrical problem, the electrician says it is a short in the alternating current. E verything works with the generator but the electrical line keeps throwing the breaker at the house. He tried following the line into the coach but was unsuccessful. I'd like to find a knowledgeable BB guy in the Kennesaw, GA area or as far south as Atlanta. Thanks. Randy Akers > --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Randal Akers wrote: > > > From: Randal Akers > Subject: reverse polarity/general maintenance > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com > Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 12:47 PM > > > > > > > I recently purchased an 86 38' BB from Scott Forman. He told me about this forum. The coach has developed a problem in the electrical system. Everytime I try to plug it in to an outlet it throws a breaker at my house. The problem is not at my house. Also, I'd like to find someone that knows Bluebirds to do maintenance on mine. Thanks. Randy Akers >

[Randal Akers]

I have used three different lines from the coach. It still throws the switch. I'm convinced there's a short or some type of problem within the coach and not the lines. --- On Sun, 7/5/09, Ernie Ekberg wrote: From: Ernie Ekberg Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: reverse polarity/general maintenance To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 4:25 PM some of those adapters I have purchased cfrom camping world were not good. have you taken apart the plug that fits into the coach? Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Wanderlodge Weatherford, Tx http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ erniesremodeling andrepair --- On Sun, 7/5/09, Randal Akers wrote: From: Randal Akers Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: reverse polarity/general maintenance To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 9:27 AM Thanks for the suggestion but we have tried that. While the coach was parked and connected to park power water got into the adapter connection and melted it. I purchased a new adapter but from that point on it throws the breaker. That leads the electrician that it probably shorted something inside the coach. --- On Sun, 7/5/09, Ernie Ekberg wrote: From: Ernie Ekberg Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: reverse polarity/general maintenance To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 7:05 AM and I haven't had my coffee, yet. Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Wanderlodge Weatherford, Tx http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ erniesremodeling andrepair --- On Sun, 7/5/09, pattypape wrote: From: pattypape Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: reverse polarity/general maintenance To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 5:59 AM Pretty scary!!! Thinking like Ernie at the same time. Bill 88 FC Michigan --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Ernie Ekberg wrote: > > This sounds like it may be a wire loose in the electrical line- take apart the plugs and check that out. > > > Ernie Ekberg > 83PT40 > Wanderlodge > Weatherford, Tx > http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ erniesremodeling andrepair > > --- On Sat, 7/4/09, Randal Akers wrote: > > > From: Randal Akers > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: reverse polarity/general maintenance > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com > Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009, 9:04 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > To follow up on the electrical problem, the electrician says it is a short in the alternating current. E verything works with the generator but the electrical line keeps throwing the breaker at the house. He tried following the line into the coach but was unsuccessful. I'd like to find a knowledgeable BB guy in the Kennesaw, GA area or as far south as Atlanta. Thanks. Randy Akers > --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Randal Akers wrote: > > > From: Randal Akers > Subject: reverse polarity/general maintenance > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com > Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 12:47 PM > > > > > > > I recently purchased an 86 38' BB from Scott Forman. He told me about this forum. The coach has developed a problem in the electrical system. Everytime I try to plug it in to an outlet it throws a breaker at my house. The problem is not at my house. Also, I'd like to find someone that knows Bluebirds to do maintenance on mine. Thanks. Randy Akers >