Air Filter for generator

[Gerald]

The Bluebird is a 1991 WB40.

The generator is a Powertech powered by a Kubota diesel.

The number on the air filter is ECB 055001.

Have been unable to get NAPA or any other supplier to cross this number over.

Can any of you help with a NAPA, WIX, FLEETGARD, or etc. number to cross this
air filter over? or help with a supplier that may have this filter.

Much appreciated, Gerald

[Pete Masterson]

Filters for PowerTech generator.

PowerTech PTS MH-15 Generator (with Kubota Engine)

(Powertech part no) NAPA # Wix # Fram #
Oil filter 70000-32091(?) 1334 51334 PH6010A
oil filter was another number, but this was what what on the unit.
The originally designated
filter appeared to be too large to fit properly.

Fuel Filter 70000-43081 3390 33390 N/A

Air Filter 70000-11080 6296 46296
OEM: Donaldson DuraLite Air Cleaner ECC (type), C65002 (part #).

WL Owners manual shows Donaldson #ECB05-5001 but this number series is
no longer used.
Note: there is a slightly larger filter available. I'd buy it, if it's
offered. (According to NAPA).
I re-routed the breather tube to outside the generator box by
replacing it with a longer tube. Just ran it out the front edge of the
box where it's "sealed" by the foam sound insulation. No holes to
drill. Air filters now last much longer.

Get several, especially if the breather tube ends near the air filter
intake as it did on my coach. It will eat air filters like crazy
unless you re-route the breather tube.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
El Sobrante CA
aeonix1@...



On Jul 29, 2009, at 9:48 AM, Gerald wrote:

> The Bluebird is a 1991 WB40.
>
> The generator is a Powertech powered by a Kubota diesel.
>
> The number on the air filter is ECB 055001.
>
> Have been unable to get NAPA or any other supplier to cross this
> number over.
>
> Can any of you help with a NAPA, WIX, FLEETGARD, or etc. number to
> cross this air filter over? or help with a supplier that may have
> this filter.
>
> Much appreciated, Gerald

[Stephen Birtles]

we can supply an upgraded filter for your [powertech
Stephen 77fc 35
Dupree Products
888 668 4288



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gerald" wrote:
>
> The Bluebird is a 1991 WB40.
>
> The generator is a Powertech powered by a Kubota diesel.
>
> The number on the air filter is ECB 055001.
>
> Have been unable to get NAPA or any other supplier to cross this number over.
>
> Can any of you help with a NAPA, WIX, FLEETGARD, or etc. number to cross this
air filter over? or help with a supplier that may have this filter.
>
> Much appreciated, Gerald
>

[Fred Hulse]

Gerald

Wix Part # 46296

Fred & Jeanne Hulse
Morristown Arizona
1997 Wanderlodge WLWB41

[Gerald]

Thanks all for the replys.

It looks like the Wix filter is going to do the job.

Thanks again, Gerald
>

[Rick Davis]

Pete, the Wix number of the oil filter on my 1993 Powertech/Kubota model is 51806. Wonder if I have the wrong one.

Rick Davis

1993 WLSA

in Houston

---

From: Pete Masterson
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:35:20 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Air Filter for generator

Filters for PowerTech generator.

PowerTech PTS MH-15 Generator (with Kubota Engine)

(Powertech part no) NAPA # Wix # Fram #
Oil filter 70000-32091( ?) 1334 51334 PH6010A
oil filter was another number, but this was what what on the unit.
The originally designated
filter appeared to be too large to fit properly.

Fuel Filter 70000-43081 3390 33390 N/A

Air Filter 70000-11080 6296 46296
OEM: Donaldson DuraLite Air Cleaner ECC (type), C65002 (part #).

WL Owners manual shows Donaldson #ECB05-5001 but this number series is
no longer used.
Note: there is a slightly larger filter available. I'd buy it, if it's
offered. (According to NAPA).
I re-routed the breather tube to outside the generator box by
replacing it with a longer tube. Just ran it out the front edge of the
box where it's "sealed" by the foam sound insulation. No holes to
drill. Air filters now last much
longer.

Get several, especially if the breather tube ends near the air filter
intake as it did on my coach. It will eat air filters like crazy
unless you re-route the breather tube.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
El Sobrante CA
"aeonix1%40mac.com"

On Jul 29, 2009, at 9:48 AM, Gerald wrote:

> The Bluebird is a 1991 WB40.
>
> The generator is a Powertech powered by a Kubota diesel.
>
> The number on the air filter is ECB 055001.
>
> Have been unable to get NAPA or any other supplier to cross this
> number over.
>
> Can any of you help with a NAPA, WIX, FLEETGARD, or etc. number to
> cross this air filter over? or help with a supplier that may have
> this filter.
>
> Much appreciated,
Gerald

[Pete Masterson]

I bought an oil filter, that was supposed to match the model number in the PowerTech manual in my blue box. It was too large to fit on the engine.

I then got the filter number off the old one mounted on the engine (it's listed in my original message). I have no idea how the filter was selected, since it was what was mounted on the engine when I purchased the coach.

I have submitted a query to WIX and I'll report back what I hear from them.

Doing a little more research, the generator has a Kubota V1902 engine.

The current Kubota parts catalog suggests HH164-32430 (Kubota Part #) as the correct filter. This assumes that the oil filter is the same as used in 1995 (or 1993).

Using this part number, I was able to get a Fram number (From the Fram web site) that indicates that Fram PH3534 is correct. That corresponds to (according to the Fram web site) a WIX 51411 or 51601.

But, looking at the measurements in the catalog listing, that appears to be the same filter I originally got for my generator that does not appear to fit properly.

===============================================

Pete Masterson, Author of

Book Design and Production: A Guide for Authors and Publishers

"Aeonix1@Mac.com"

Aeonix Publishing Group http://www.aeonix.com

===============================================

On Jul 30, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Rick Davis wrote:

Pete, the Wix number of the oil filter on my 1993 Powertech/Kubota model is 51806. Wonder if I have the wrong one.

Rick Davis

1993 WLSA

in Houston

---

From:Pete Masterson <"aeonix1@mac.com">
To:"WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"
Sent:Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:35:20 PM
Subject:Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Air Filter for generator

Filters for PowerTech generator.

PowerTech PTS MH-15 Generator (with Kubota Engine)

(Powertech part no) NAPA # Wix # Fram #
Oil filter 70000-32091( ?) 1334 51334 PH6010A
oil filter was another number, but this was what what on the unit.
The originally designated
filter appeared to be too large to fit properly.

Fuel Filter 70000-43081 3390 33390 N/A

Air Filter 70000-11080 6296 46296
OEM: Donaldson DuraLite Air Cleaner ECC (type), C65002 (part #).

WL Owners manual shows Donaldson #ECB05-5001 but this number series is
no longer used.
Note: there is a slightly larger filter available. I'd buy it, if it's
offered. (According to NAPA).
I re-routed the breather tube to outside the generator box by
replacing it with a longer tube. Just ran it out the front edge of the
box where it's "sealed" by the foam sound insulation. No holes to
drill. Air filters now last much longer.

Get several, especially if the breather tube ends near the air filter
intake as it did on my coach. It will eat air filters like crazy
unless you re-route the breather tube.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
El Sobrante CA
"aeonix1%40mac.com"

On Jul 29, 2009, at 9:48 AM, Gerald wrote:

> The Bluebird is a 1991 WB40.
>
> The generator is a Powertech powered by a Kubota diesel.
>
> The number on the air filter is ECB 055001.
>
> Have been unable to get NAPA or any other supplier to cross this
> number over.
>
> Can any of you help with a NAPA, WIX, FLEETGARD, or etc. number to
> cross this air filter over? or help with a supplier that may have
> this filter.
>
> Much appreciated, Gerald

[Gregory OConnor]

Kubota has an application number that makes a big diff on parts like this. Many
of the kubotas require endusers to seek the OEM (powertec) for maintenance
parts. the best way to find the wicks or fram equivelant is to reference the oem
number everytime as wicks and fram go thru number changes also.
I have the same 54hp Kubota motors on skidsteers and hydroseeders however most
of the parts differ even rings and pistons. oilfilter mounts are moved around to
allow of maintenance access. the V makes it 4 cyl 19 makes it 1900cc and 02 is
the class. problem with stocking up on filters is the elements have a shelf life
when set in heat. I've seen the paper dry rot making the filter worthless.
Greg Of Tim&Greg 94ptca



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> I bought an oil filter, that was supposed to match the model number in
> the PowerTech manual in my blue box. It was too large to fit on the
> engine.
>
> I then got the filter number off the old one mounted on the engine
> (it's listed in my original message). I have no idea how the filter
> was selected, since it was what was mounted on the engine when I
> purchased the coach.
>
> I have submitted a query to WIX and I'll report back what I hear from
> them.
>
> Doing a little more research, the generator has a Kubota V1902 engine.
> The current Kubota parts catalog suggests HH164-32430 (Kubota Part #)
> as the correct filter. This assumes that the oil filter is the same as
> used in 1995 (or 1993).
>
> Using this part number, I was able to get a Fram number (From the Fram
> web site) that indicates that Fram PH3534 is correct. That corresponds
> to (according to the Fram web site) a WIX 51411 or 51601.
>
> But, looking at the measurements in the catalog listing, that appears
> to be the same filter I originally got for my generator that does not
> appear to fit properly.
>
> ===============================================
> Pete Masterson, Author of
> Book Design and Production: A Guide for Authors and Publishers
> Aeonix1@...
> Aeonix Publishing Group http://www.aeonix.com
> ===============================================
>
>
> On Jul 30, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Rick Davis wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Pete, the Wix number of the oil filter on my 1993 Powertech/Kubota
> > model is 51806. Wonder if I have the wrong one.
> > Rick Davis
> > 1993 WLSA
> > in Houston
> >
> > From: Pete Masterson
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:35:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Air Filter for generator
> >
> > Filters for PowerTech generator.
> >
> > PowerTech PTS MH-15 Generator (with Kubota Engine)
> >
> > (Powertech part no) NAPA # Wix # Fram #
> > Oil filter 70000-32091( ?) 1334 51334 PH6010A
> > oil filter was another number, but this was what what on the unit.
> > The originally designated
> > filter appeared to be too large to fit properly.
> >
> > Fuel Filter 70000-43081 3390 33390 N/A
> >
> > Air Filter 70000-11080 6296 46296
> > OEM: Donaldson DuraLite Air Cleaner ECC (type), C65002 (part #).
> >
> > WL Owners manual shows Donaldson #ECB05-5001 but this number series is
> > no longer used.
> > Note: there is a slightly larger filter available. I'd buy it, if it's
> > offered. (According to NAPA).
> > I re-routed the breather tube to outside the generator box by
> > replacing it with a longer tube. Just ran it out the front edge of the
> > box where it's "sealed" by the foam sound insulation. No holes to
> > drill. Air filters now last much longer.
> >
> > Get several, especially if the breather tube ends near the air filter
> > intake as it did on my coach. It will eat air filters like crazy
> > unless you re-route the breather tube.
> >
> > Pete Masterson
> > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > El Sobrante CA
> > aeonix1@mac. com
> >
> > On Jul 29, 2009, at 9:48 AM, Gerald wrote:
> >
> > > The Bluebird is a 1991 WB40.
> > >
> > > The generator is a Powertech powered by a Kubota diesel.
> > >
> > > The number on the air filter is ECB 055001.
> > >
> > > Have been unable to get NAPA or any other supplier to cross this
> > > number over.
> > >
> > > Can any of you help with a NAPA, WIX, FLEETGARD, or etc. number to
> > > cross this air filter over? or help with a supplier that may have
> > > this filter.
> > >
> > > Much appreciated, Gerald
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

[mbulriss]

I had been following this thread with some interest since I knew I had to stock
up on filters for the gen set this weekend. Now keep in mind I have a 1991
unit, but it is still a Powertech/Kubota V1902 gen set unit. I had been looking
at the Wix and Donaldson cross reference charts online earlier this week and had
noted several discrepancies to what has been discussed previously in this
thread.

I ended up going to the NAPA distribution warehouse in town today (Saturday),
where they also have a retail counter. I got an unusually helpful clerk at the
NAPA counter and physically compared several filters.

I have seen numerous references to the NAPA 1334 oil filter as an oil filter
number for the gen set. I had been using the NAPA 1515, since I was told it was
the cross reference for the Baldwin oil filter that was on the gen set when I
purchased the coach. When I compared the 1334 to the 1515 physically, the
mounting area is equivalent. However, the body of the 1515 is larger in
circumference and almost twice as long as the 1334. Since this equates to more
surface area for filtering, I stuck with the NAPA 1515 oil filter for my gen
set. The cross references to the 1515 that I have are Luberfiner PH8A, Baldwin
B2, and AC Delco PFL1A. I like having cross reference numbers handy in case of
problems on the road, where you don't have your filter of choice available.

Likewise on the gen set fuel filter, I have seen the NAPA 3390 listed in several
places besides in this thread. I have been using the NAPA 3395. When I
compared them physically, once again the 3395 was almost twice as large, meaning
more filtering area. The clerk let me come around the counter to check the
technical specs and the main difference I found, other than the size, was that
the 3390 is listed as a 10 micron unit and the 3395 is a 6 micron unit. I stuck
with the NAPA 3395 fuel filter that I have been using. Cross references I have:
Baldwin BF789 and Luberfiner FP570F.

The gen set air filter I got is a NAPA 6296 part number, which also has a
separate 546296 bar code part number sticker on the box. When you open the box,
the filter has a "Duralite Air Cleaner" sticker on it with a 546296 part number.
I checked for larger comparable filters on the NAPA system and found none.

So much for the gen set filters.

I also picked up a few NAPA 3212 Racor filters for the 8V92. They are the NAPA
2 micron equivalent for the Racor 2020 SM listed in my blue box. Fleetguard
FS1206, Luberfiner L2020F, or Wix 33210 are some other cross references that I
have in my records. The secondary fuel filters I have been using are the NAPA
3120 or Fleetguard FF 5206.

As far as 8V92 engine oil filters, I only use the Donaldson ELF7670, which is a
deep-cleaning extended life filter that works well with the synthetic oil I use.
Other regular oil filters are the Fleetguard LF3333, Luberfiner LFP670, Fram
PH3612, AC PF911, NAPA 1669 or 1671, or DD Powerguard 23518671.

Any given filter number has a way of 'disappearing' on the market and getting
re-numbered, like the Donaldson air filters previously referenced in this
thread. There are any number of fairly comparable filters that will fit the
same mounting base, but I am kind of glad I went through this exercise today to
verify that I am comfortable with the filters that I have been using.

FWIW, I hope this helps someone.

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX





--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Rick Davis wrote:
>
> Pete, the Wix number of the oil filter on my 1993 Powertech/Kubota model is
51806. Wonder if I have the wrong one.
> Rick Davis
> 1993 WLSA
> in Houston
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Pete Masterson
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:35:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Air Filter for generator
>
>
> Filters for PowerTech generator.
>
> PowerTech PTS MH-15 Generator (with Kubota Engine)
>
> (Powertech part no) NAPA # Wix # Fram #
> Oil filter 70000-32091( ?) 1334 51334 PH6010A
> oil filter was another number, but this was what what on the unit.
> The originally designated
> filter appeared to be too large to fit properly.
>
> Fuel Filter 70000-43081 3390 33390 N/A
>
> Air Filter 70000-11080 6296 46296
> OEM: Donaldson DuraLite Air Cleaner ECC (type), C65002 (part #).
>
> WL Owners manual shows Donaldson #ECB05-5001 but this number series is
> no longer used.
> Note: there is a slightly larger filter available. I'd buy it, if it's
> offered. (According to NAPA).
> I re-routed the breather tube to outside the generator box by
> replacing it with a longer tube. Just ran it out the front edge of the
> box where it's "sealed" by the foam sound insulation. No holes to
> drill. Air filters now last much longer.
>
> Get several, especially if the breather tube ends near the air filter
> intake as it did on my coach. It will eat air filters like crazy
> unless you re-route the breather tube.
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> El Sobrante CA
> aeonix1@mac. com
>
> On Jul 29, 2009, at 9:48 AM, Gerald wrote:
>
> > The Bluebird is a 1991 WB40.
> >
> > The generator is a Powertech powered by a Kubota diesel.
> >
> > The number on the air filter is ECB 055001.
> >
> > Have been unable to get NAPA or any other supplier to cross this
> > number over.
> >
> > Can any of you help with a NAPA, WIX, FLEETGARD, or etc. number to
> > cross this air filter over? or help with a supplier that may have
> > this filter.
> >
> > Much appreciated, Gerald
>

[Chet Geist]

Great post Mike. Strange you should bring up this air filter as I was at Clyde's last Wednesday and asked him if I could convert my Perkins from a wet (oil) type air filter to a dry type. He said to use a DuraLite 546296 also available from Car Quest as an 88296. Small world, see you Saturday evening.

Chet Geist

1981 FC33, Austin, Texas

-----Original Message-----
From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mbulriss
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 8:42 PM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Air Filter for generator

I had been following this thread with some interest since I knew I had to stock up on filters for the gen set this weekend. Now keep in mind I have a 1991 unit, but it is still a Powertech/Kubota V1902 gen set unit. I had been looking at the Wix and Donaldson cross reference charts online earlier this week and had noted several discrepancies to what has been discussed previously in this thread.

I ended up going to the NAPA distribution warehouse in town today (Saturday), where they also have a retail counter. I got an unusually helpful clerk at the NAPA counter and physically compared several filters.

I have seen numerous references to the NAPA 1334 oil filter as an oil filter number for the gen set. I had been using the NAPA 1515, since I was told it was the cross reference for the Baldwin oil filter that was on the gen set when I purchased the coach. When I compared the 1334 to the 1515 physically, the mounting area is equivalent. However, the body of the 1515 is larger in circumference and almost twice as long as the 1334. Since this equates to more surface area for filtering, I stuck with the NAPA 1515 oil filter for my gen set. The cross references to the 1515 that I have are Luberfiner PH8A, Baldwin B2, and AC Delco PFL1A. I like having cross reference numbers handy in case of problems on the road, where you don't have your filter of choice available.

Likewise on the gen set fuel filter, I have seen the NAPA 3390 listed in several places besides in this thread. I have been using the NAPA 3395. When I compared them physically, once again the 3395 was almost twice as large, meaning more filtering area. The clerk let me come around the counter to check the technical specs and the main difference I found, other than the size, was that the 3390 is listed as a 10 micron unit and the 3395 is a 6 micron unit. I stuck with the NAPA 3395 fuel filter that I have been using. Cross references I have: Baldwin BF789 and Luberfiner FP570F.

The gen set air filter I got is a NAPA 6296 part number, which also has a separate 546296 bar code part number sticker on the box. When you open the box, the filter has a "Duralite Air Cleaner" sticker on it with a 546296 part number. I checked for larger comparable filters on the NAPA system and found none.

So much for the gen set filters.

I also picked up a few NAPA 3212 Racor filters for the 8V92. They are the NAPA 2 micron equivalent for the Racor 2020 SM listed in my blue box. Fleetguard FS1206, Luberfiner L2020F, or Wix 33210 are some other cross references that I have in my records. The secondary fuel filters I have been using are the NAPA 3120 or Fleetguard FF 5206.

As far as 8V92 engine oil filters, I only use the Donaldson ELF7670, which is a deep-cleaning extended life filter that works well with the synthetic oil I use. Other regular oil filters are the Fleetguard LF3333, Luberfiner LFP670, Fram PH3612, AC PF911, NAPA 1669 or 1671, or DD Powerguard 23518671.

Any given filter number has a way of 'disappearing' on the market and getting re-numbered, like the Donaldson air filters previously referenced in this thread. There are any number of fairly comparable filters that will fit the same mounting base, but I am kind of glad I went through this exercise today to verify that I am comfortable with the filters that I have been using.

FWIW, I hope this helps someone.

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX


--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Rick Davis > wrote:
>
> Pete, the Wix number of the oil filter on my 1993 Powertech/Kubota model is 51806. Wonder if I have the wrong one.
> Rick Davis
> 1993 WLSA
> in Houston
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Pete Masterson >
> To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:35:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Air Filter for generator
>
>
> Filters for PowerTech generator.
>
> PowerTech PTS MH-15 Generator (with Kubota Engine)
>
> (Powertech part no) NAPA # Wix # Fram #
> Oil filter 70000-32091( ?) 1334 51334 PH6010A
> oil filter was another number, but this was what what on the unit.
> The originally designated
> filter appeared to be too large to fit properly.
>
> Fuel Filter 70000-43081 3390 33390 N/A
>
> Air Filter 70000-11080 6296 46296
> OEM: Donaldson DuraLite Air Cleaner ECC (type), C65002 (part #).
>
> WL Owners manual shows Donaldson #ECB05-5001 but this number series is
> no longer used.
> Note: there is a slightly larger filter available. I'd buy it, if it's
> offered. (According to NAPA).
> I re-routed the breather tube to outside the generator box by
> replacing it with a longer tube. Just ran it out the front edge of the
> box where it's "sealed" by the foam sound insulation. No holes to
> drill. Air filters now last much longer.
>
> Get several, especially if the breather tube ends near the air filter
> intake as it did on my coach. It will eat air filters like crazy
> unless you re-route the breather tube.
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> El Sobrante CA
> aeonix1@mac. com
>
> On Jul 29, 2009, at 9:48 AM, Gerald wrote:
>
> > The Bluebird is a 1991 WB40.
> >
> > The generator is a Powertech powered by a Kubota diesel.
> >
> > The number on the air filter is ECB 055001.
> >
> > Have been unable to get NAPA or any other supplier to cross this
> > number over.
> >
> > Can any of you help with a NAPA, WIX, FLEETGARD, or etc. number to
> > cross this air filter over? or help with a supplier that may have
> > this filter.
> >
> > Much appreciated, Gerald
>