Air Filter for generator

[mbulriss]

Chet,

Unfiltered air particulates cause a significant portion of internal engine
cylinder wall wear. Before you replace that oil bath filter, every test I have
seen still shows the old oil bath air cleaners as the best air particulate
filters, hands down. As I understand it, this is part of the reason why many of
the K&N and Amsoil high efficiency filters that I have used have a light oil
covering on their filter mediums. While the oil bath filter is a bit of a pain
to service, it is not a big deal, you do not do it very often and the cost of a
few ounces of fresh oil is minimal compared to a new filter element every time.
FYI, that NAPA 6296 air filter was $32.49 yesterday at the warehouse, but the
invoice showed a list price of $55.59, so I take that to mean that your price
may vary widely depending were you buy it.

FWIW,

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Chet Geist" wrote:
>
>
> Great post Mike. Strange you should bring up this air filter as I was at
> Clyde's last Wednesday and asked him if I could convert my Perkins from a
> wet (oil) type air filter to a dry type. He said to use a DuraLite 546296
> also available from Car Quest as an 88296. Small world, see you Saturday
> evening.
>
> Chet Geist
> 1981 FC33, Austin, Texas
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mbulriss
> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 8:42 PM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Air Filter for generator
>
>
> I had been following this thread with some interest since I knew I had
> to stock up on filters for the gen set this weekend. Now keep in mind I have
> a 1991 unit, but it is still a Powertech/Kubota V1902 gen set unit. I had
> been looking at the Wix and Donaldson cross reference charts online earlier
> this week and had noted several discrepancies to what has been discussed
> previously in this thread.
>
> I ended up going to the NAPA distribution warehouse in town today
> (Saturday), where they also have a retail counter. I got an unusually
> helpful clerk at the NAPA counter and physically compared several filters.
>
> I have seen numerous references to the NAPA 1334 oil filter as an oil
> filter number for the gen set. I had been using the NAPA 1515, since I was
> told it was the cross reference for the Baldwin oil filter that was on the
> gen set when I purchased the coach. When I compared the 1334 to the 1515
> physically, the mounting area is equivalent. However, the body of the 1515
> is larger in circumference and almost twice as long as the 1334. Since this
> equates to more surface area for filtering, I stuck with the NAPA 1515 oil
> filter for my gen set. The cross references to the 1515 that I have are
> Luberfiner PH8A, Baldwin B2, and AC Delco PFL1A. I like having cross
> reference numbers handy in case of problems on the road, where you don't
> have your filter of choice available.
>
> Likewise on the gen set fuel filter, I have seen the NAPA 3390 listed in
> several places besides in this thread. I have been using the NAPA 3395. When
> I compared them physically, once again the 3395 was almost twice as large,
> meaning more filtering area. The clerk let me come around the counter to
> check the technical specs and the main difference I found, other than the
> size, was that the 3390 is listed as a 10 micron unit and the 3395 is a 6
> micron unit. I stuck with the NAPA 3395 fuel filter that I have been using.
> Cross references I have: Baldwin BF789 and Luberfiner FP570F.
>
> The gen set air filter I got is a NAPA 6296 part number, which also has a
> separate 546296 bar code part number sticker on the box. When you open the
> box, the filter has a "Duralite Air Cleaner" sticker on it with a 546296
> part number. I checked for larger comparable filters on the NAPA system and
> found none.
>
> So much for the gen set filters.
>
> I also picked up a few NAPA 3212 Racor filters for the 8V92. They are the
> NAPA 2 micron equivalent for the Racor 2020 SM listed in my blue box.
> Fleetguard FS1206, Luberfiner L2020F, or Wix 33210 are some other cross
> references that I have in my records. The secondary fuel filters I have been
> using are the NAPA 3120 or Fleetguard FF 5206.
>
> As far as 8V92 engine oil filters, I only use the Donaldson ELF7670, which
> is a deep-cleaning extended life filter that works well with the synthetic
> oil I use. Other regular oil filters are the Fleetguard LF3333, Luberfiner
> LFP670, Fram PH3612, AC PF911, NAPA 1669 or 1671, or DD Powerguard 23518671.
>
> Any given filter number has a way of 'disappearing' on the market and
> getting re-numbered, like the Donaldson air filters previously referenced in
> this thread. There are any number of fairly comparable filters that will fit
> the same mounting base, but I am kind of glad I went through this exercise
> today to verify that I am comfortable with the filters that I have been
> using.
>
> FWIW, I hope this helps someone.
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Rick Davis wrote:
> >
> > Pete, the Wix number of the oil filter on my 1993 Powertech/Kubota model
> is 51806. Wonder if I have the wrong one.
> > Rick Davis
> > 1993 WLSA
> > in Houston
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Pete Masterson
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:35:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Air Filter for generator
> >
> >
> > Filters for PowerTech generator.
> >
> > PowerTech PTS MH-15 Generator (with Kubota Engine)
> >
> > (Powertech part no) NAPA # Wix # Fram #
> > Oil filter 70000-32091( ?) 1334 51334 PH6010A
> > oil filter was another number, but this was what what on the unit.
> > The originally designated
> > filter appeared to be too large to fit properly.
> >
> > Fuel Filter 70000-43081 3390 33390 N/A
> >
> > Air Filter 70000-11080 6296 46296
> > OEM: Donaldson DuraLite Air Cleaner ECC (type), C65002 (part #).
> >
> > WL Owners manual shows Donaldson #ECB05-5001 but this number series is
> > no longer used.
> > Note: there is a slightly larger filter available. I'd buy it, if it's
> > offered. (According to NAPA).
> > I re-routed the breather tube to outside the generator box by
> > replacing it with a longer tube. Just ran it out the front edge of the
> > box where it's "sealed" by the foam sound insulation. No holes to
> > drill. Air filters now last much longer.
> >
> > Get several, especially if the breather tube ends near the air filter
> > intake as it did on my coach. It will eat air filters like crazy
> > unless you re-route the breather tube.
> >
> > Pete Masterson
> > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > El Sobrante CA
> > aeonix1@mac. com
> >
> > On Jul 29, 2009, at 9:48 AM, Gerald wrote:
> >
> > > The Bluebird is a 1991 WB40.
> > >
> > > The generator is a Powertech powered by a Kubota diesel.
> > >
> > > The number on the air filter is ECB 055001.
> > >
> > > Have been unable to get NAPA or any other supplier to cross this
> > > number over.
> > >
> > > Can any of you help with a NAPA, WIX, FLEETGARD, or etc. number to
> > > cross this air filter over? or help with a supplier that may have
> > > this filter.
> > >
> > > Much appreciated, Gerald
> >
>

[Gregory OConnor]

one of the reasons many fleets do not use oil bath is cleaning dirty ones can
cause holes in the filter. I would think the genset would be the dirtyest one
and the cause of agressive cleaning.

Construction tractors use a servicable filter on the outside and a blue color
secondary filter on the inside. the outside white paper filter is one the
operator can blow out with air often and replace over the blue filter. if the
inner blue filter turns grey, it shows that particles are getting past the
primary white filter and settling on the blue one.

I once ruined a Detroit 8.2 in one day on a dirty dusty job when I replaced what
was probobly a good filter with the proper referenced number filter but failed
to size it up. after I saw blue smoke, I looked to see that I seated the lid and
tightened the screw only to find that the filter never sealed from can to lid. I
nolonger trust part numbers or previous owner replaced part references. the 8.2
had many throwaway issues and engine replacement was expected when I purchased
the truck so it was of little loss especially that the tuition proved a valuable
lesson.

Greg ofTim&Greg
94ptca





--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...> wrote:
>
> Chet,
>
> Unfiltered air particulates cause a significant portion of internal engine
cylinder wall wear. Before you replace that oil bath filter, every test I have
seen still shows the old oil bath air cleaners as the best air particulate
filters, hands down. As I understand it, this is part of the reason why many of
the K&N and Amsoil high efficiency filters that I have used have a light oil
covering on their filter mediums. While the oil bath filter is a bit of a pain
to service, it is not a big deal, you do not do it very often and the cost of a
few ounces of fresh oil is minimal compared to a new filter element every time.
FYI, that NAPA 6296 air filter was $32.49 yesterday at the warehouse, but the
invoice showed a list price of $55.59, so I take that to mean that your price
may vary widely depending were you buy it.
>
> FWIW,
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Chet Geist" wrote:
> >
> >
> > Great post Mike. Strange you should bring up this air filter as I was at
> > Clyde's last Wednesday and asked him if I could convert my Perkins from a
> > wet (oil) type air filter to a dry type. He said to use a DuraLite 546296
> > also available from Car Quest as an 88296. Small world, see you Saturday
> > evening.
> >
> > Chet Geist
> > 1981 FC33, Austin, Texas
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mbulriss
> > Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 8:42 PM
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Air Filter for generator
> >
> >
> > I had been following this thread with some interest since I knew I had
> > to stock up on filters for the gen set this weekend. Now keep in mind I have
> > a 1991 unit, but it is still a Powertech/Kubota V1902 gen set unit. I had
> > been looking at the Wix and Donaldson cross reference charts online earlier
> > this week and had noted several discrepancies to what has been discussed
> > previously in this thread.
> >
> > I ended up going to the NAPA distribution warehouse in town today
> > (Saturday), where they also have a retail counter. I got an unusually
> > helpful clerk at the NAPA counter and physically compared several filters.
> >
> > I have seen numerous references to the NAPA 1334 oil filter as an oil
> > filter number for the gen set. I had been using the NAPA 1515, since I was
> > told it was the cross reference for the Baldwin oil filter that was on the
> > gen set when I purchased the coach. When I compared the 1334 to the 1515
> > physically, the mounting area is equivalent. However, the body of the 1515
> > is larger in circumference and almost twice as long as the 1334. Since this
> > equates to more surface area for filtering, I stuck with the NAPA 1515 oil
> > filter for my gen set. The cross references to the 1515 that I have are
> > Luberfiner PH8A, Baldwin B2, and AC Delco PFL1A. I like having cross
> > reference numbers handy in case of problems on the road, where you don't
> > have your filter of choice available.
> >
> > Likewise on the gen set fuel filter, I have seen the NAPA 3390 listed in
> > several places besides in this thread. I have been using the NAPA 3395. When
> > I compared them physically, once again the 3395 was almost twice as large,
> > meaning more filtering area. The clerk let me come around the counter to
> > check the technical specs and the main difference I found, other than the
> > size, was that the 3390 is listed as a 10 micron unit and the 3395 is a 6
> > micron unit. I stuck with the NAPA 3395 fuel filter that I have been using.
> > Cross references I have: Baldwin BF789 and Luberfiner FP570F.
> >
> > The gen set air filter I got is a NAPA 6296 part number, which also has a
> > separate 546296 bar code part number sticker on the box. When you open the
> > box, the filter has a "Duralite Air Cleaner" sticker on it with a 546296
> > part number. I checked for larger comparable filters on the NAPA system and
> > found none.
> >
> > So much for the gen set filters.
> >
> > I also picked up a few NAPA 3212 Racor filters for the 8V92. They are the
> > NAPA 2 micron equivalent for the Racor 2020 SM listed in my blue box.
> > Fleetguard FS1206, Luberfiner L2020F, or Wix 33210 are some other cross
> > references that I have in my records. The secondary fuel filters I have been
> > using are the NAPA 3120 or Fleetguard FF 5206.
> >
> > As far as 8V92 engine oil filters, I only use the Donaldson ELF7670, which
> > is a deep-cleaning extended life filter that works well with the synthetic
> > oil I use. Other regular oil filters are the Fleetguard LF3333, Luberfiner
> > LFP670, Fram PH3612, AC PF911, NAPA 1669 or 1671, or DD Powerguard 23518671.
> >
> > Any given filter number has a way of 'disappearing' on the market and
> > getting re-numbered, like the Donaldson air filters previously referenced in
> > this thread. There are any number of fairly comparable filters that will fit
> > the same mounting base, but I am kind of glad I went through this exercise
> > today to verify that I am comfortable with the filters that I have been
> > using.
> >
> > FWIW, I hope this helps someone.
> >
> > Mike Bulriss
> > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > San Antonio, TX
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Rick Davis wrote:
> > >
> > > Pete, the Wix number of the oil filter on my 1993 Powertech/Kubota model
> > is 51806. Wonder if I have the wrong one.
> > > Rick Davis
> > > 1993 WLSA
> > > in Houston
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Pete Masterson
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:35:20 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Air Filter for generator
> > >
> > >
> > > Filters for PowerTech generator.
> > >
> > > PowerTech PTS MH-15 Generator (with Kubota Engine)
> > >
> > > (Powertech part no) NAPA # Wix # Fram #
> > > Oil filter 70000-32091( ?) 1334 51334 PH6010A
> > > oil filter was another number, but this was what what on the unit.
> > > The originally designated
> > > filter appeared to be too large to fit properly.
> > >
> > > Fuel Filter 70000-43081 3390 33390 N/A
> > >
> > > Air Filter 70000-11080 6296 46296
> > > OEM: Donaldson DuraLite Air Cleaner ECC (type), C65002 (part #).
> > >
> > > WL Owners manual shows Donaldson #ECB05-5001 but this number series is
> > > no longer used.
> > > Note: there is a slightly larger filter available. I'd buy it, if it's
> > > offered. (According to NAPA).
> > > I re-routed the breather tube to outside the generator box by
> > > replacing it with a longer tube. Just ran it out the front edge of the
> > > box where it's "sealed" by the foam sound insulation. No holes to
> > > drill. Air filters now last much longer.
> > >
> > > Get several, especially if the breather tube ends near the air filter
> > > intake as it did on my coach. It will eat air filters like crazy
> > > unless you re-route the breather tube.
> > >
> > > Pete Masterson
> > > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > > El Sobrante CA
> > > aeonix1@mac. com
> > >
> > > On Jul 29, 2009, at 9:48 AM, Gerald wrote:
> > >
> > > > The Bluebird is a 1991 WB40.
> > > >
> > > > The generator is a Powertech powered by a Kubota diesel.
> > > >
> > > > The number on the air filter is ECB 055001.
> > > >
> > > > Have been unable to get NAPA or any other supplier to cross this
> > > > number over.
> > > >
> > > > Can any of you help with a NAPA, WIX, FLEETGARD, or etc. number to
> > > > cross this air filter over? or help with a supplier that may have
> > > > this filter.
> > > >
> > > > Much appreciated, Gerald
> > >
> >
>

[mbulriss]

Greg,
> one of the reasons many fleets do not use oil bath is cleaning
> dirty ones can cause holes in the filter.

Yes, agreed that is true for the newer ones with a fiberous type material after
the oil bath where an owner needs to wring out or, especially, if you blow out
the material with compressed air after cleaning. But Chet's 81 (assuming it is
like my 83 PT was), should have a fine wire mesh assembly with the oil bath to
entrap the wet particulates. The wire mesh gets washed simply by spraying or
submersing in parts cleaner and set aside to drip and air dry. No need to
aggressively scrub or wring out the mesh filtering material.

Since you regularly use them, why don't you have your parts guy find us a good
multi-stage construction filter that would fit? I haven't had the time to
search those out and would much prefer that over those plain paper filters.

Thanks,

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor" wrote:
>
> one of the reasons many fleets do not use oil bath is cleaning dirty ones can
cause holes in the filter. I would think the genset would be the dirtyest one
and the cause of agressive cleaning.
>
> Construction tractors use a servicable filter on the outside and a blue color
secondary filter on the inside. the outside white paper filter is one the
operator can blow out with air often and replace over the blue filter. if the
inner blue filter turns grey, it shows that particles are getting past the
primary white filter and settling on the blue one.
>
> I once ruined a Detroit 8.2 in one day on a dirty dusty job when I replaced
what was probobly a good filter with the proper referenced number filter but
failed to size it up. after I saw blue smoke, I looked to see that I seated the
lid and tightened the screw only to find that the filter never sealed from can
to lid. I nolonger trust part numbers or previous owner replaced part
references. the 8.2 had many throwaway issues and engine replacement was
expected when I purchased the truck so it was of little loss especially that the
tuition proved a valuable lesson.
>
> Greg ofTim&Greg
> 94ptca
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@> wrote:
> >
> > Chet,
> >
> > Unfiltered air particulates cause a significant portion of internal engine
cylinder wall wear. Before you replace that oil bath filter, every test I have
seen still shows the old oil bath air cleaners as the best air particulate
filters, hands down. As I understand it, this is part of the reason why many of
the K&N and Amsoil high efficiency filters that I have used have a light oil
covering on their filter mediums. While the oil bath filter is a bit of a pain
to service, it is not a big deal, you do not do it very often and the cost of a
few ounces of fresh oil is minimal compared to a new filter element every time.
FYI, that NAPA 6296 air filter was $32.49 yesterday at the warehouse, but the
invoice showed a list price of $55.59, so I take that to mean that your price
may vary widely depending were you buy it.
> >
> > FWIW,
> >
> > Mike Bulriss
> > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > San Antonio, TX
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Chet Geist" wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Great post Mike. Strange you should bring up this air filter as I was at
> > > Clyde's last Wednesday and asked him if I could convert my Perkins from a
> > > wet (oil) type air filter to a dry type. He said to use a DuraLite 546296
> > > also available from Car Quest as an 88296. Small world, see you Saturday
> > > evening.
> > >
> > > Chet Geist
> > > 1981 FC33, Austin, Texas
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mbulriss
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 8:42 PM
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Air Filter for generator
> > >
> > >
> > > I had been following this thread with some interest since I knew I had
> > > to stock up on filters for the gen set this weekend. Now keep in mind I
have
> > > a 1991 unit, but it is still a Powertech/Kubota V1902 gen set unit. I had
> > > been looking at the Wix and Donaldson cross reference charts online
earlier
> > > this week and had noted several discrepancies to what has been discussed
> > > previously in this thread.
> > >
> > > I ended up going to the NAPA distribution warehouse in town today
> > > (Saturday), where they also have a retail counter. I got an unusually
> > > helpful clerk at the NAPA counter and physically compared several filters.
> > >
> > > I have seen numerous references to the NAPA 1334 oil filter as an oil
> > > filter number for the gen set. I had been using the NAPA 1515, since I was
> > > told it was the cross reference for the Baldwin oil filter that was on the
> > > gen set when I purchased the coach. When I compared the 1334 to the 1515
> > > physically, the mounting area is equivalent. However, the body of the 1515
> > > is larger in circumference and almost twice as long as the 1334. Since
this
> > > equates to more surface area for filtering, I stuck with the NAPA 1515 oil
> > > filter for my gen set. The cross references to the 1515 that I have are
> > > Luberfiner PH8A, Baldwin B2, and AC Delco PFL1A. I like having cross
> > > reference numbers handy in case of problems on the road, where you don't
> > > have your filter of choice available.
> > >
> > > Likewise on the gen set fuel filter, I have seen the NAPA 3390 listed in
> > > several places besides in this thread. I have been using the NAPA 3395.
When
> > > I compared them physically, once again the 3395 was almost twice as large,
> > > meaning more filtering area. The clerk let me come around the counter to
> > > check the technical specs and the main difference I found, other than the
> > > size, was that the 3390 is listed as a 10 micron unit and the 3395 is a 6
> > > micron unit. I stuck with the NAPA 3395 fuel filter that I have been
using.
> > > Cross references I have: Baldwin BF789 and Luberfiner FP570F.
> > >
> > > The gen set air filter I got is a NAPA 6296 part number, which also has
a
> > > separate 546296 bar code part number sticker on the box. When you open the
> > > box, the filter has a "Duralite Air Cleaner" sticker on it with a 546296
> > > part number. I checked for larger comparable filters on the NAPA system
and
> > > found none.
> > >
> > > So much for the gen set filters.
> > >
> > > I also picked up a few NAPA 3212 Racor filters for the 8V92. They are
the
> > > NAPA 2 micron equivalent for the Racor 2020 SM listed in my blue box.
> > > Fleetguard FS1206, Luberfiner L2020F, or Wix 33210 are some other cross
> > > references that I have in my records. The secondary fuel filters I have
been
> > > using are the NAPA 3120 or Fleetguard FF 5206.
> > >
> > > As far as 8V92 engine oil filters, I only use the Donaldson ELF7670,
which
> > > is a deep-cleaning extended life filter that works well with the synthetic
> > > oil I use. Other regular oil filters are the Fleetguard LF3333, Luberfiner
> > > LFP670, Fram PH3612, AC PF911, NAPA 1669 or 1671, or DD Powerguard
23518671.
> > >
> > > Any given filter number has a way of 'disappearing' on the market and
> > > getting re-numbered, like the Donaldson air filters previously referenced
in
> > > this thread. There are any number of fairly comparable filters that will
fit
> > > the same mounting base, but I am kind of glad I went through this exercise
> > > today to verify that I am comfortable with the filters that I have been
> > > using.
> > >
> > > FWIW, I hope this helps someone.
> > >
> > > Mike Bulriss
> > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > > San Antonio, TX
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Rick Davis wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Pete, the Wix number of the oil filter on my 1993 Powertech/Kubota
model
> > > is 51806. Wonder if I have the wrong one.
> > > > Rick Davis
> > > > 1993 WLSA
> > > > in Houston
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Pete Masterson
> > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:35:20 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Air Filter for generator
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Filters for PowerTech generator.
> > > >
> > > > PowerTech PTS MH-15 Generator (with Kubota Engine)
> > > >
> > > > (Powertech part no) NAPA # Wix # Fram #
> > > > Oil filter 70000-32091( ?) 1334 51334 PH6010A
> > > > oil filter was another number, but this was what what on the unit.
> > > > The originally designated
> > > > filter appeared to be too large to fit properly.
> > > >
> > > > Fuel Filter 70000-43081 3390 33390 N/A
> > > >
> > > > Air Filter 70000-11080 6296 46296
> > > > OEM: Donaldson DuraLite Air Cleaner ECC (type), C65002 (part #).
> > > >
> > > > WL Owners manual shows Donaldson #ECB05-5001 but this number series is
> > > > no longer used.
> > > > Note: there is a slightly larger filter available. I'd buy it, if it's
> > > > offered. (According to NAPA).
> > > > I re-routed the breather tube to outside the generator box by
> > > > replacing it with a longer tube. Just ran it out the front edge of the
> > > > box where it's "sealed" by the foam sound insulation. No holes to
> > > > drill. Air filters now last much longer.
> > > >
> > > > Get several, especially if the breather tube ends near the air filter
> > > > intake as it did on my coach. It will eat air filters like crazy
> > > > unless you re-route the breather tube.
> > > >
> > > > Pete Masterson
> > > > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > > > El Sobrante CA
> > > > aeonix1@mac. com
> > > >
> > > > On Jul 29, 2009, at 9:48 AM, Gerald wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The Bluebird is a 1991 WB40.
> > > > >
> > > > > The generator is a Powertech powered by a Kubota diesel.
> > > > >
> > > > > The number on the air filter is ECB 055001.
> > > > >
> > > > > Have been unable to get NAPA or any other supplier to cross this
> > > > > number over.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can any of you help with a NAPA, WIX, FLEETGARD, or etc. number to
> > > > > cross this air filter over? or help with a supplier that may have
> > > > > this filter.
> > > > >
> > > > > Much appreciated, Gerald
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[thomas_sorrentino]

Mike,

Very interesting post! FWIW I have the Yanmar/Kohler genset and the part number
you listed for the fuel filter Napa 3390 is what I've been using, now I'm going
to look into the Napa 3395 you mentioned. It doesn't seem like the oil filters
are interchangeable though.

Tom Sorrentino
1987 PT38
Bedford Hills, NY


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...> wrote:
>
> I had been following this thread with some interest since I knew I had to
stock up on filters for the gen set this weekend. Now keep in mind I have a
1991 unit, but it is still a Powertech/Kubota V1902 gen set unit. I had been
looking at the Wix and Donaldson cross reference charts online earlier this week
and had noted several discrepancies to what has been discussed previously in
this thread.
>
> I ended up going to the NAPA distribution warehouse in town today (Saturday),
where they also have a retail counter. I got an unusually helpful clerk at the
NAPA counter and physically compared several filters.
>
> I have seen numerous references to the NAPA 1334 oil filter as an oil filter
number for the gen set. I had been using the NAPA 1515, since I was told it was
the cross reference for the Baldwin oil filter that was on the gen set when I
purchased the coach. When I compared the 1334 to the 1515 physically, the
mounting area is equivalent. However, the body of the 1515 is larger in
circumference and almost twice as long as the 1334. Since this equates to more
surface area for filtering, I stuck with the NAPA 1515 oil filter for my gen
set. The cross references to the 1515 that I have are Luberfiner PH8A, Baldwin
B2, and AC Delco PFL1A. I like having cross reference numbers handy in case of
problems on the road, where you don't have your filter of choice available.
>
> Likewise on the gen set fuel filter, I have seen the NAPA 3390 listed in
several places besides in this thread. I have been using the NAPA 3395. When I
compared them physically, once again the 3395 was almost twice as large, meaning
more filtering area. The clerk let me come around the counter to check the
technical specs and the main difference I found, other than the size, was that
the 3390 is listed as a 10 micron unit and the 3395 is a 6 micron unit. I stuck
with the NAPA 3395 fuel filter that I have been using. Cross references I have:
Baldwin BF789 and Luberfiner FP570F.
>
> The gen set air filter I got is a NAPA 6296 part number, which also has a
separate 546296 bar code part number sticker on the box. When you open the box,
the filter has a "Duralite Air Cleaner" sticker on it with a 546296 part number.
I checked for larger comparable filters on the NAPA system and found none.
>
> So much for the gen set filters.
>
> I also picked up a few NAPA 3212 Racor filters for the 8V92. They are the
NAPA 2 micron equivalent for the Racor 2020 SM listed in my blue box.
Fleetguard FS1206, Luberfiner L2020F, or Wix 33210 are some other cross
references that I have in my records. The secondary fuel filters I have been
using are the NAPA 3120 or Fleetguard FF 5206.
>
> As far as 8V92 engine oil filters, I only use the Donaldson ELF7670, which is
a deep-cleaning extended life filter that works well with the synthetic oil I
use. Other regular oil filters are the Fleetguard LF3333, Luberfiner LFP670,
Fram PH3612, AC PF911, NAPA 1669 or 1671, or DD Powerguard 23518671.
>
> Any given filter number has a way of 'disappearing' on the market and getting
re-numbered, like the Donaldson air filters previously referenced in this
thread. There are any number of fairly comparable filters that will fit the
same mounting base, but I am kind of glad I went through this exercise today to
verify that I am comfortable with the filters that I have been using.
>
> FWIW, I hope this helps someone.
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Rick Davis wrote:
> >
> > Pete, the Wix number of the oil filter on my 1993 Powertech/Kubota model is
51806. Wonder if I have the wrong one.
> > Rick Davis
> > 1993 WLSA
> > in Houston
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Pete Masterson
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:35:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Air Filter for generator
> >
> >
> > Filters for PowerTech generator.
> >
> > PowerTech PTS MH-15 Generator (with Kubota Engine)
> >
> > (Powertech part no) NAPA # Wix # Fram #
> > Oil filter 70000-32091( ?) 1334 51334 PH6010A
> > oil filter was another number, but this was what what on the unit.
> > The originally designated
> > filter appeared to be too large to fit properly.
> >
> > Fuel Filter 70000-43081 3390 33390 N/A
> >
> > Air Filter 70000-11080 6296 46296
> > OEM: Donaldson DuraLite Air Cleaner ECC (type), C65002 (part #).
> >
> > WL Owners manual shows Donaldson #ECB05-5001 but this number series is
> > no longer used.
> > Note: there is a slightly larger filter available. I'd buy it, if it's
> > offered. (According to NAPA).
> > I re-routed the breather tube to outside the generator box by
> > replacing it with a longer tube. Just ran it out the front edge of the
> > box where it's "sealed" by the foam sound insulation. No holes to
> > drill. Air filters now last much longer.
> >
> > Get several, especially if the breather tube ends near the air filter
> > intake as it did on my coach. It will eat air filters like crazy
> > unless you re-route the breather tube.
> >
> > Pete Masterson
> > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > El Sobrante CA
> > aeonix1@mac. com
> >
> > On Jul 29, 2009, at 9:48 AM, Gerald wrote:
> >
> > > The Bluebird is a 1991 WB40.
> > >
> > > The generator is a Powertech powered by a Kubota diesel.
> > >
> > > The number on the air filter is ECB 055001.
> > >
> > > Have been unable to get NAPA or any other supplier to cross this
> > > number over.
> > >
> > > Can any of you help with a NAPA, WIX, FLEETGARD, or etc. number to
> > > cross this air filter over? or help with a supplier that may have
> > > this filter.
> > >
> > > Much appreciated, Gerald
> >
>