New battery time

[GARY MINKER]

6 volters --- On Wed, 8/19/09, jburgessx2@... wrote: From: jburgessx2@... Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: New battery time To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 6:26 PM Gary, Are you using 6 or 12 volt? And, what Ah? Jerry 85 PT40 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From: GARY MINKER Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:12:07 -0700 (PDT) To: Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: New battery time look here for battery types http://www.sonnensc hein.org/ --- On Thu, 8/13/09, jburgessx2@yahoo. com wrote: From: jburgessx2@yahoo. com Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: New battery time To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 10:01 AM Thanks for the info. I'll check that link out. Jerry 85 PT40 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From: "sfedeli3" Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:40:44 -0000 To: Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: New battery time Hi Jerry, Don't waste your $$ on the IOTA's. They are not capable of a full bulk charge or equalization (despite what the literature says). You need a charger that is temperature- compensating and capable of at least 15.5 volts when equalizing. I'd spend the extra $$ and get a Truecharge2 or even a remanned ProSine 2.0. Wherever you mount it, make sure that it's dry and cool. Mine's been working great for 4 years. Check out this link- [http://www.xantrex. com/web/id/ 256/p/1/pt/ 7/product. asp]. Shane Fedeli 85PT40 Hershey, PA --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "jburgessx2" wrote: > > We full time but rarely dry camp. So, I'm thinking 12v deep cycle should be okay. Also, I'm replacing the boilers with Iota DLS-45 chargers. Thoughts? Jerry 85 PT40 > > > should be fine. Also, I'm replacing my boilers with Iota DLS-45 chargers. > > A >

[Joyce and Richard Hayden]

Gary,

The problem with 13.7 volt chargers is that your batteries will not ever get a full charge. That will cause them to fail prematurely. Shane is correct.

Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA

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To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"

Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 3:09 PM

Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: New battery time

After years of debate, I got rid of all chargers and went to fixed highly regulated switching converters at 13.7 VDC. I let the engine float/equalize the batteries. The Sonnenschein AGM's love it and I have no problems. I have 120 amps of converters that never boil a battery and at 13.7 the charge is good. --- On Thu, 8/13/09, sfedeli3 <sfedeli3@comcast.<WBR>net> wrote: From: sfedeli3 <sfedeli3@comcast.<WBR>net> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: New battery time To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 9:40 AM Hi Jerry, Don't waste your $$ on the IOTA's. They are not capable of a full bulk charge or equalization (despite what the literature says). You need a charger that is temperature- compensating and capable of at least 15.5 volts when equalizing. I'd spend the extra $$ and get a Truecharge2 or even a remanned ProSine 2.0. Wherever you mount it, make sure that it's dry and cool. Mine's been working great for 4 years. Check out this link- [http://www.xantrex. com/web/id/ 256/p/1/pt/ 7/product. asp]. Shane Fedeli 85PT40 Hershey, PA --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "jburgessx2" wrote: > > We full time but rarely dry camp. So, I'm thinking 12v deep cycle should be okay. Also, I'm replacing the boilers with Iota DLS-45 chargers. Thoughts? Jerry 85 PT40 > > > should be fine. Also, I'm replacing my boilers with Iota DLS-45 chargers. > > A >

[Wilhelmus Schreurs]

Hi there Richard.

About the batteries. this is not so. each type of battery has it's own charge rate.
The lead acid ones are in the 14.4 volt range, but he AGM's I believe are in 13.7 range.
Not quite sure, but I know they are not the same

Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
Terrace, B.C. Canada

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[sfedeli3]

Good point Bill. I forgot to make that distinction. The better choice would be
to get a charger that can be programmed for various types, rather than a static
voltage power supply. Especially with AGM's, the unit will need to shut down
automatically when the batteries are full, or he'll ruin them.

Shane Fedeli
85PT40
Hershey, PA

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Wilhelmus Schreurs
wrote:
>
> Hi there Richard.
>
> About the batteries. this is not so. each type of battery has it's own charge
rate.
> The lead acid ones are in the 14.4 volt range, but he AGM's I believe are in
13.7 range.
> Not quite sure, but I know they are not the same
>
> Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
> Terrace, B.C. Canada
>
>
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[rjmackillop]

Hi,
AGM and wet have the same charge characteristics. Only Gel is different.
Obviously you can't mix any - really should have same brand and age in battery
banks.
See:http://www.windsun.com/Batteries/Battery_FAQ.htm#AGM, or Absorbed Glass Mat
Batteries
>
> Good point Bill. I forgot to make that distinction. The better choice would be
to get a charger that can be programmed for various types, rather than a static
voltage power supply. Especially with AGM's, the unit will need to shut down
automatically when the batteries are full, or he'll ruin them.
>
> Shane Fedeli
> 85PT40
> Hershey, PA
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Wilhelmus Schreurs
wrote:
> >
> > Hi there Richard.
> >
> > About the batteries. this is not so. each type of battery has it's own
charge rate.
> > The lead acid ones are in the 14.4 volt range, but he AGM's I believe are in
13.7 range.
> > Not quite sure, but I know they are not the same
> >
> > Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
> > Terrace, B.C. Canada
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________________________
> > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!
> >
> > http://www.flickr.com/gift/
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>

[GARY MINKER]

Driving is the equalizing charge. If you drive once a month, you equalize the batteries. Every battery is slightly different by a few tenths of a volt. If you call 5 years short life, then you would be right but I am ballanced out and get 5 or more years out of the batteries with this trick. And actually at the battery terminals it is 13.9 volts. --- On Thu, 8/20/09, Joyce and Richard Hayden wrote: From: Joyce and Richard Hayden Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: New battery time To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 3:03 PM Gary, The problem with 13.7 volt chargers is that your batteries will not ever get a full charge. That will cause them to fail prematurely. Shane is correct. Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: GARY MINKER To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: New battery time After years of debate, I got rid of all chargers and went to fixed highly regulated switching converters at 13.7 VDC. I let the engine float/equalize the batteries. The Sonnenschein AGM's love it and I have no problems. I have 120 amps of converters that never boil a battery and at 13.7 the charge is good. --- On Thu, 8/13/09, sfedeli3 <sfedeli3@comcast. net> wrote: From: sfedeli3 <sfedeli3@comcast. net> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: New battery time To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 9:40 AM Hi Jerry, Don't waste your $$ on the IOTA's. They are not capable of a full bulk charge or equalization (despite what the literature says). You need a charger that is temperature- compensating and capable of at least 15.5 volts when equalizing. I'd spend the extra $$ and get a Truecharge2 or even a remanned ProSine 2.0. Wherever you mount it, make sure that it's dry and cool. Mine's been working great for 4 years. Check out this link- [http://www.xantrex. com/web/id/ 256/p/1/pt/ 7/product. asp]. Shane Fedeli 85PT40 Hershey, PA --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "jburgessx2" wrote: > > We full time but rarely dry camp. So, I'm thinking 12v deep cycle should be okay. Also, I'm replacing the boilers with Iota DLS-45 chargers. Thoughts? Jerry 85 PT40 > > > should be fine. Also, I'm replacing my boilers with Iota DLS-45 chargers. > > A >

[rjmackillop]

Great battery site:
http://www.eastpenn-deka.com/assets/base/0139.pdf

Flooded/gel/AGM


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, GARY MINKER wrote:
>
> Driving is the equalizing charge. If you drive once a month, you equalize the
batteries. Every battery is slightly different by a few tenths of a volt. If
you call 5 years short life, then you would be right but I am ballanced out and
get 5 or more years out of the batteries with this trick. And actually at the
battery terminals it is 13.9 volts.
>
> --- On Thu, 8/20/09, Joyce and Richard Hayden wrote:
>
> From: Joyce and Richard Hayden
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: New battery time
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 3:03 PM
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> Gary,
> The problem with 13.7 volt chargers is that your batteries will not ever
> get a full charge. That will cause them to fail prematurely. Shane
> is correct.
>
> Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: GARY
> MINKER
> To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 3:09
> PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: New
> battery time
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> After years of debate, I got rid of all chargers and went
> to fixed highly regulated switching converters at 13.7 VDC. I let
> the engine float/equalize the batteries. The Sonnenschein AGM's
> love it and I have no problems. I have 120 amps of converters that
> never boil a battery and at 13.7 the charge is good.
>
> --- On
> Thu, 8/13/09, sfedeli3 <sfedeli3@comcast. net>
> wrote:
>
>
> From:
> sfedeli3 <sfedeli3@comcast. net>
> Subject:
> [WanderlodgeForum] Re: New battery time
> To:
> WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, August
> 13, 2009, 9:40 AM
>
>
>
>
> Hi Jerry,
>
> Don't waste your $$ on the IOTA's. They are not
> capable of a full bulk charge or equalization (despite what the
> literature says). You need a charger that is temperature-
compensating
> and capable of at least 15.5 volts when equalizing. I'd spend the
> extra $$ and get a Truecharge2 or even a remanned ProSine 2.0.
> Wherever you mount it, make sure that it's dry and cool. Mine's been
> working great for 4 years. Check out this link- [http://www.xantrex.
com/web/id/ 256/p/1/pt/
> 7/product. asp].
>
> Shane Fedeli
> 85PT40
> Hershey,
> PA
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@
> yahoogroups. com, "jburgessx2"
> wrote:
> >
> > We full time but rarely dry camp. So, I'm
> thinking 12v deep cycle should be okay. Also, I'm replacing the
> boilers with Iota DLS-45 chargers. Thoughts? Jerry 85 PT40
> >
>
> >
> > should be fine. Also, I'm replacing my boilers with
> Iota DLS-45 chargers.
> >
> >
> A
> >
>