391 af industrial gas engine

[oneoutlaw45]

hi all. just joined. nice site. am looking at a 73 FC 31' with a 391 AF
industrial gas engine and allison 6 speed mt40. does anyone have anything to say
about this engine and tranny? looking for info and any info you folks can give
me. thanks

oneoutlaw45

[davidkerryedwards]

I believe there is at least one member here with that gas engine. If my memory
serves me correctly, I think he's from CA. If you search on gas engine or 391
you should be able to find him.

Kerry
82 FC 35
Denver

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "oneoutlaw45" wrote:
>
> hi all. just joined. nice site. am looking at a 73 FC 31' with a 391 AF
industrial gas engine and allison 6 speed mt40. does anyone have anything to say
about this engine and tranny? looking for info and any info you folks can give
me. thanks
>
> oneoutlaw45
>

[gregoryoconnor]

There is on in LA California
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/ant/rvs...91203.html
and I think Jack has a newer on in great shape for sale??
http://profiles.yahoo.com/jackcj7
send email to Jack
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Wand...lRIfo\
Xq0t4rr2ddvnA_Cddzink9f1Q6Xvf-xMF2RF5DB6EfhukSnxL6nSfz60Q19dhy0NGddCJ9v8oD8N4MOq\
G2APf1SU


Cool but just as underpowered as the other FC's. got to be less $ to work on
than a Cat but the tranny should offer some difficulty with troubleshooting and
for the most part would prompt a total rebuild if there are issues. There is a
Transmission guy on the other forum in Wisconsin Mike Somthing?

The Bus in la has some cool history with a Christian Church that today does work
in La Ca

Greg of Tim&Greg
94ptca


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "oneoutlaw45" wrote:
>
> hi all. just joined. nice site. am looking at a 73 FC 31' with a 391 AF
industrial gas engine and allison 6 speed mt40. does anyone have anything to say
about this engine and tranny? looking for info and any info you folks can give
me. thanks
>
> oneoutlaw45
>

[mbulriss]

As Greg said, Jack Smith is the go-to guy to answer questions on this one as he
has a nice 73 FC31. As matter of fact, this is his ad from over on
VintageBirds:

BLUEBIRD WANDERLODGE: 1973 FC 31' Powered by a 391A F Industrial Gas engine, and
an ALLISON MT40 six speed transmission. The Coach is equipped with a ONAN
Emerald 5.5kw generator (with few hours) which will run the TWO roof air
conditioners, the Microwave and the electric Hot Water Heater. The radiator was
recently replaced with a 6 tube unit. This is the Side Bath model, containing
the toilet, sink and shower. The bedroom is in the rear, and has Twin beds, as
well as storage, and a nightstand. Across from the kitchen, there is a Dinette,
which makes into a bed. Up front in the living area is a couch, which also
converts to a bed. The TV is here, and the passenger seat swivels around to be
part of the living area. The TV/VCR works off cable in most campgrounds, but,
with the conversion to Digital, I suspect the crank-up antenna no longer works.
There are two recently replaced Suburban ropane heaters that keep the cold away.
The Dometic Refidgerator also works off Propane, as well as 12V & 120V, and was
also replaced. The tires and wheels were changed out about 3 years ago. The
tires are TOYO 11X22.5 on Accuride aluminum wheels, like the 18 wheelers use.
Brakes have just been redone, and all the steering tightened up. A "Steer Safe"
is also installed. More storage is provided in the outside storage bays .
Interior is OK, clean & free from rips, but is in the 70s colors. Although you
will not get any speeding tickets, the coach cruises nicely at 60mph, (3000
rpm), towing our Jeep CJ. It averages 5 to 6 mpg, and we have taken it over
Cajon Pass, The Grapevine, Soqualime in Washington & Raton in Colorado/N.Mexico.
$14,500, or might trade for equal value in a late Jaguar XJ8, Harley, or
similar... Phone 949 768 6602

He has pics on the ad over there also.

Good luck.

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "gregoryoconnor" wrote:
>
> There is on in LA California
> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/ant/rvs...91203.html
> and I think Jack has a newer on in great shape for sale??
> http://profiles.yahoo.com/jackcj7
> send email to Jack
>
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Wand...lRIfo\
Xq0t4rr2ddvnA_Cddzink9f1Q6Xvf-xMF2RF5DB6EfhukSnxL6nSfz60Q19dhy0NGddCJ9v8oD8N4MOq\
G2APf1SU
>
>
> Cool but just as underpowered as the other FC's. got to be less $ to work on
than a Cat but the tranny should offer some difficulty with troubleshooting and
for the most part would prompt a total rebuild if there are issues. There is a
Transmission guy on the other forum in Wisconsin Mike Somthing?
>
> The Bus in la has some cool history with a Christian Church that today does
work in La Ca
>
> Greg of Tim&Greg
> 94ptca
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "oneoutlaw45" wrote:
> >
> > hi all. just joined. nice site. am looking at a 73 FC 31' with a 391 AF
industrial gas engine and allison 6 speed mt40. does anyone have anything to say
about this engine and tranny? looking for info and any info you folks can give
me. thanks
> >
> > oneoutlaw45
> >
>

[oneoutlaw45]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...> wrote:
>
> As Greg said, Jack Smith is the go-to guy to answer questions on this one as
he has a nice 73 FC31. As matter of fact, this is his ad from over on
VintageBirds:
>
> BLUEBIRD WANDERLODGE: 1973 FC 31' Powered by a 391A F Industrial Gas engine,
and an ALLISON MT40 six speed transmission. The Coach is equipped with a ONAN
Emerald 5.5kw generator (with few hours) which will run the TWO roof air
conditioners, the Microwave and the electric Hot Water Heater. The radiator was
recently replaced with a 6 tube unit. This is the Side Bath model, containing
the toilet, sink and shower. The bedroom is in the rear, and has Twin beds, as
well as storage, and a nightstand. Across from the kitchen, there is a Dinette,
which makes into a bed. Up front in the living area is a couch, which also
converts to a bed. The TV is here, and the passenger seat swivels around to be
part of the living area. The TV/VCR works off cable in most campgrounds, but,
with the conversion to Digital, I suspect the crank-up antenna no longer works.
There are two recently replaced Suburban ropane heaters that keep the cold away.
The Dometic Refidgerator also works off Propane, as well as 12V & 120V, and was
also replaced. The tires and wheels were changed out about 3 years ago. The
tires are TOYO 11X22.5 on Accuride aluminum wheels, like the 18 wheelers use.
Brakes have just been redone, and all the steering tightened up. A "Steer Safe"
is also installed. More storage is provided in the outside storage bays .
Interior is OK, clean & free from rips, but is in the 70s colors. Although you
will not get any speeding tickets, the coach cruises nicely at 60mph, (3000
rpm), towing our Jeep CJ. It averages 5 to 6 mpg, and we have taken it over
Cajon Pass, The Grapevine, Soqualime in Washington & Raton in Colorado/N.Mexico.
$14,500, or might trade for equal value in a late Jaguar XJ8, Harley, or
similar... Phone 949 768 6602
>
> He has pics on the ad over there also.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "gregoryoconnor" wrote:
> >
> > There is on in LA California
> > http://losangeles.craigslist.org/ant/rvs...91203.html
> > and I think Jack has a newer on in great shape for sale??
> > http://profiles.yahoo.com/jackcj7
> > send email to Jack
> >
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Wand...lRIfo\
Xq0t4rr2ddvnA_Cddzink9f1Q6Xvf-xMF2RF5DB6EfhukSnxL6nSfz60Q19dhy0NGddCJ9v8oD8N4MOq\
G2APf1SU
> >
> >
> > Cool but just as underpowered as the other FC's. got to be less $ to work on
than a Cat but the tranny should offer some difficulty with troubleshooting and
for the most part would prompt a total rebuild if there are issues. There is a
Transmission guy on the other forum in Wisconsin Mike Somthing?
> >
> > The Bus in la has some cool history with a Christian Church that today does
work in La Ca
> >
> > Greg of Tim&Greg
> > 94ptca
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "oneoutlaw45" wrote:
> > >
> > > hi all. just joined. nice site. am looking at a 73 FC 31' with a 391 AF
industrial gas engine and allison 6 speed mt40. does anyone have anything to say
about this engine and tranny? looking for info and any info you folks can give
me. thanks
> > >
> > > oneoutlaw45
> > >
> >
>
thanks. that is one of the birds i am looking at. talked to him. he is sending
me pi's of it.

oneoutlaw45

[R E BRAKE]

I feel the 391 is going to be way underpowered, I like the 3208 RE --- On Mon, 8/24/09, gregoryoconnor wrote: From: gregoryoconnor Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 391 af industrial gas engine To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 10:55 AM There is on in LA California http://losangeles. craigslist. org/ant/rvs/ 1335991203. html and I think Jack has a newer on in great shape for sale?? http://profiles. yahoo.com/ jackcj7 send email to Jack http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ WanderlodgeForum /post?postID= FIA43jyKSKlRIfoX q0t4rr2ddvnA_ Cddzink9f1Q6Xvf- xMF2RF5DB6EfhukS nxL6nSfz60Q19dhy 0NGddCJ9v8oD8N4M OqG2APf1SU Cool but just as underpowered as the other FC's. got to be less $ to work on than a Cat but the tranny should offer some difficulty with troubleshooting and for the most part would prompt a total rebuild if there are issues. There is a Transmission guy on the other forum in Wisconsin Mike Somthing? The Bus in la has some cool history with a Christian Church that today does work in La Ca Greg of Tim&Greg 94ptca --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "oneoutlaw45" wrote: > > hi all. just joined. nice site. am looking at a 73 FC 31' with a 391 AF industrial gas engine and allison 6 speed mt40. does anyone have anything to say about this engine and tranny? looking for info and any info you folks can give me. thanks > > oneoutlaw45 >

[Dorn Hetzel]

Hey, I love my 3208.  It has plenty of power!  I can do at least 30mph up a 10% grade   I even did 9mph up a 22% grade!  And 9-10 MPG, gotta love that!

Dorn Hetzel
77FC35
Flat Creek Campground, Hogansville, GA

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 8:08 AM, R E BRAKE <"putneyflash@bellsouth.net"> wrote:

 

I feel the 391 is going to be way underpowered, I like the 3208 RE --- On Mon, 8/24/09, gregoryoconnor <"greg@rainbowrv.com"> wrote: From: gregoryoconnor <"greg@rainbowrv.com"> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 391 af industrial gas engine To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com" Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 10:55 AM   There is on in LA California http://losangeles. craigslist. org/ant/rvs/ 1335991203. html and I think Jack has a newer on in great shape for sale?? http://profiles. yahoo.com/ jackcj7 send email to Jack http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ WanderlodgeForum /post?postID= FIA43jyKSKlRIfoX q0t4rr2ddvnA_ Cddzink9f1Q6Xvf- xMF2RF5DB6EfhukS nxL6nSfz60Q19dhy 0NGddCJ9v8oD8N4M OqG2APf1SU Cool but just as underpowered as the other FC's. got to be less $ to work on than a Cat but the tranny should offer some difficulty with troubleshooting and for the most part would prompt a total rebuild if there are issues. There is a Transmission guy on the other forum in Wisconsin Mike Somthing? The Bus in la has some cool history with a Christian Church that today does work in La Ca Greg of Tim&Greg 94ptca --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "oneoutlaw45" wrote: > > hi all. just joined. nice site. am looking at a 73 FC 31' with a 391 AF industrial gas engine and allison 6 speed mt40. does anyone have anything to say about this engine and tranny? looking for info and any info you folks can give me. thanks > > oneoutlaw45 >