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10-18-2009, 03:19

Hi Folks,
Just had a very smart tire guy tell me to deflate the Bird tires to 10 psi or so
(obviously with HWH jacks down) and reinflate with a portable compressor before
my next trip and the tires will more than quadruple their life span! I've read
a few messages here about tires and wanted to know what you guys think? Thanks.
Steve and Betsie Lover
'95 WBDA, 42PT
Phx, AZ

10-19-2009, 00:33

Steve and Betsie,
I was in the tire business for a number of years and have never heard of that
one. I don't see how it would make any difference in tire life. But you would
get fresh air in the tires.
Kent Johnson
98 LX Luv Bird
Full-Timing

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ezf16" wrote:
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> Hi Folks,
> Just had a very smart tire guy tell me to deflate the Bird tires to 10 psi or
so (obviously with HWH jacks down) and reinflate with a portable compressor
before my next trip and the tires will more than quadruple their life span!
I've read a few messages here about tires and wanted to know what you guys
think? Thanks.
> Steve and Betsie Lover
> '95 WBDA, 42PT
> Phx, AZ
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10-19-2009, 01:09

Unless you had a extreamely dry air source
it I would think you would be adding moisture to the tires each time you did
this.

- Chuck
Wheeler-

1982 FC 31SB Fort Worth TX

From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kent

Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009
7:34 AM

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re:
Tire longevity

Steve and Betsie,

I was in the tire business for a number of years and have never heard of that
one. I don't see how it would make any difference in tire life. But you would
get fresh air in the tires.

Kent Johnson

98 LX Luv Bird

Full-Timing

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",
"ezf16" wrote:

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> Hi Folks,

> Just had a very smart tire guy tell me to deflate the Bird tires to 10 psi
or so (obviously with HWH jacks down) and reinflate with a portable compressor
before my next trip and the tires will more than quadruple their life span!
I've read a few messages here about tires and wanted to know what you guys
think? Thanks.

> Steve and Betsie Lover

> '95 WBDA, 42PT

> Phx, AZ

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10-19-2009, 01:27

Never heard of this before. I can't think of any scientific rationale for why such a procedure would lengthen tire life. I agree with Chuck you are potentially adding additional moisture each time you would do it.

And finally, would you really change behavior and rely on such a method to keep using aged out tires beyond the5-7 years as recommended by many of the tire manufacturers? I wouldn't.

I'd need further rationale and/orcollaborationto devote any time to such a procedure.

Roger Webb

91 WL

Cedar Rapids, IA

-----Original Message-----

From: Chuck Wheeler

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Mon, Oct 19, 2009 8:09 am

Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Tire longevity

Unless you had a extreamely dry air source
it I would think you would be adding moisture to the tires each time you did
this.

- Chuck
Wheeler-

1982 FC 31SB Fort Worth TX

From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kent

Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009
7:34 AM

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re:
Tire longevity

Steve and Betsie,

I was in the tire business for a number of years and have never heard of that
one. I don't see how it would make any difference in tire life. But you would
get fresh air in the tires.

Kent Johnson

98 LX Luv Bird

Full-Timing

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",
"ezf16" wrote:

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> Hi Folks,

> Just had a very smart tire guy tell me to deflate the Bird tires to 10 psi
or so (obviously with HWH jacks down) and reinflate with a portable compressor
before my next trip and the tires will more than quadruple their life span!
I've read a few messages here about tires and wanted to know what you guys
think? Thanks.

> Steve and Betsie Lover

> '95 WBDA, 42PT

> Phx, AZ

>

10-19-2009, 02:53

Thanks guys for your time on this one. The rationale that was given me was that
the tire is "working" anytime that it is at operating pressure (especially at
the pressures ours' are)and that if the weight were removed i.e. HWH jacks down
and secure that removing the pressure (with enough remaining to maintain tire
bead) would alow the tire to entirely "rest" until needed and at that time be
reinflated to operating pressure. The air here in phx is extremely dry and I
was going to put an inexpensive in-line filter on my compressor to further
ensure dryness. My tire guy said that if I left the tires this way (and out of
the sun) that it would be as if they were sitting in a warehouse and would last
MUCH longer. Again, I do not in any way claim to have much of a clue here.
Just wanting more bang for my tire buck.
Steve
'95 WBDA, PT42
Phoenix

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, rogerwwebb@... wrote:
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> Never heard of this before. I can't think of any scientific rationale for why
such a procedure would lengthen tire life. I agree with Chuck you are
potentially adding additional moisture each time you would do it.
> And finally, would you really change behavior and rely on such a method to
keep using aged out tires beyond the 5-7 years as recommended by many of the
tire manufacturers? I wouldn't.
> I'd need further rationale and/or collaboration to devote any time to such a
procedure.
> Roger Webb91 WLCedar Rapids, IA
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> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
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> get fresh air in the tires.
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> Kent Johnson
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> 98 LX Luv Bird
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> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
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> > Just had a very smart tire guy tell me to deflate the Bird tires to 10 psi
> or so (obviously with HWH jacks down) and reinflate with a portable compressor
> before my next trip and the tires will more than quadruple their life span!
> I've read a few messages here about tires and wanted to know what you guys
> think? Thanks.
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> > Steve and Betsie Lover
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> > '95 WBDA, 42PT
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10-19-2009, 02:55

Below is a link to informational videos and other info by Michelin. Goodyear
and others have them too. According to this, the service life of the tire is up
to Ten years.

http://www.michelinrvtires.com/michelinr...-demos.jsp

This business of deflating/inflating sounds like more folklore than fact to me.
However, if it were true, I can understand why the manufactures would not
publish this information.

I use my "daily" contact lenses for two days... put them in solution after the
first day, put them on the second day and through them out on the second night.
Been doing this for years. Manufacture does not offer this as an option.

Doubling the stated life of a consumable product is economically attractive.
Some you can and some you can't.

NH Bill

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, rogerwwebb@... wrote:
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> Never heard of this before. I can't think of any scientific rationale for why
such a procedure would lengthen tire life. I agree with Chuck you are
potentially adding additional moisture each time you would do it.
> And finally, would you really change behavior and rely on such a method to
keep using aged out tires beyond the 5-7 years as recommended by many of the
tire manufacturers? I wouldn't.
> I'd need further rationale and/or collaboration to devote any time to such a
procedure.
> Roger Webb91 WLCedar Rapids, IA
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> From: Chuck Wheeler
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, Oct 19, 2009 8:09 am
> Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Tire longevity
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> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
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> I was in the tire business for a number of years and have never heard of that
> one. I don't see how it would make any difference in tire life. But you would
> get fresh air in the tires.
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> Kent Johnson
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> 98 LX Luv Bird
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> Full-Timing
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> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> "ezf16" wrote:
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> > Hi Folks,
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> > Just had a very smart tire guy tell me to deflate the Bird tires to 10 psi
> or so (obviously with HWH jacks down) and reinflate with a portable compressor
> before my next trip and the tires will more than quadruple their life span!
> I've read a few messages here about tires and wanted to know what you guys
> think? Thanks.
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> > Steve and Betsie Lover
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> > '95 WBDA, 42PT
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> > Phx, AZ
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10-19-2009, 03:00

The green thing to do with tires is sell them to a trucker in 6 years. that way
when the casing is expired the tread will be used up also. Many tire shops that
cater to dump trucks and construction equipment have customers for used tires. I
run thru 10 tires every 8 months. I pay around 100. for good used mounted. sun
checks in the side walls usually ruin your chance of a credit for the tires.
however sun check tires work well on yard goats and onsite trucks.

the unique thing about motorhomes is they are always run fully loaded. I think
the best thing you can do to maintain the tires is to
keep them fully inflated and seated against the rim?????? if deflated the rubber
bets a new shape and I cant see where that is good for them. if you let a truck
sit overnight with low air, in the morning a run down the road will prove a
thump, thump thump untill the tire re rounds off.

One other thing is to 'Rock the Bus to Sleep" when you park. Pull past your
resting spot 20+ feet then back in a straight line to relax the tag stress and
tread scuff. it is a bad idea to spinn the wheel stationary at a stand still
then park. the tread is pointed east and the rim north.

It could be that the tire guy is smart and 10 psi is the thing to do???????
Opinions are like a tire gauge, everyone has one.

Greg of Tim&Greg
94ptca

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, rogerwwebb@... wrote:
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> Never heard of this before. I can't think of any scientific rationale for why
such a procedure would lengthen tire life. I agree with Chuck you are
potentially adding additional moisture each time you would do it.
> And finally, would you really change behavior and rely on such a method to
keep using aged out tires beyond the 5-7 years as recommended by many of the
tire manufacturers? I wouldn't.
> I'd need further rationale and/or collaboration to devote any time to such a
procedure.
> Roger Webb91 WLCedar Rapids, IA
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chuck Wheeler
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, Oct 19, 2009 8:09 am
> Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Tire longevity
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[mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kent
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> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009
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> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
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> Tire longevity
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> I was in the tire business for a number of years and have never heard of that
> one. I don't see how it would make any difference in tire life. But you would
> get fresh air in the tires.
>
> Kent Johnson
>
> 98 LX Luv Bird
>
> Full-Timing
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> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> "ezf16" wrote:
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> > Hi Folks,
>
> > Just had a very smart tire guy tell me to deflate the Bird tires to 10 psi
> or so (obviously with HWH jacks down) and reinflate with a portable compressor
> before my next trip and the tires will more than quadruple their life span!
> I've read a few messages here about tires and wanted to know what you guys
> think? Thanks.
>
> > Steve and Betsie Lover
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> > '95 WBDA, 42PT
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> > Phx, AZ
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10-19-2009, 04:26

I'll go with Gregg on this one.
"The green thing to do with tires is sell them to a trucker in 6 years. that way
when the casing is expired the tread will be used up also. Many tire shops that
cater to dump trucks and construction equipment have customers for used tires."
You shouldn't mess around with your tires.
Kurt Horvath
95 PT 42
10AC

10-19-2009, 05:01

It occurs to me that after the first time you refill the tires --- which is likely to take a very long time --- you might decide that it's not worth the effort. The typical affordable small compressor will take a very long time to fill the tires from a low level of pressure. Indeed, the last 5 or 10 psi can take plenty long as it is...

Pete Masterson

(former) '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42

El Sobrante CA

"aeonix1@mac.com"

On Oct 19, 2009, at 5:33 AM, Kent wrote:

Steve and Betsie,
I was in the tire business for a number of years and have never heard of that one. I don't see how it would make any difference in tire life. But you would get fresh air in the tires.
Kent Johnson
98 LX Luv Bird
Full-Timing

--- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com", "ezf16" wrote:

Hi Folks,
Just had a very smart tire guy tell me to deflate the Bird tires to 10 psi or so (obviously with HWH jacks down) and reinflate with a portable compressor before my next trip and the tires will more than quadruple their life span! I've read a few messages here about tires and wanted to know what you guys think? Thanks.
Steve and Betsie Lover
'95 WBDA, 42PT
Phx, AZ