Tachometer fix

[ttikalsky]

Time to fix the tachometer. I have only owned the wanderlodge for a
few weeks, 2 short weekend trips so far, and have finally opened the
front. Luckily it has a swing radiator, looks like it was modified
after the original build, probably when the new engine was installed.
Any way I need to get the fan off, it is an electric fan and I am not
sure if this was stock I am guesing not because of the "custom" wiring
block mounted on the front of the motor to power the fan. I have
removed the large bolt in the center and I can see a shaft with a
keyway, a bearing and the fan housing. The fan spins freely on the
shaft or should I say on the bearing. Now how do I remove the fan? I
am guessing a puller is needed but not sure. Any one famaliar with
removing this type of fan?

Troy, Waconia MN 83 FC 33

[randydupree]

stop! remove the 4 bolts that hold the fan and housing to the block.pay very
close attention to the 4 bolts and the long flat bar the bolts go through.make
sure you mark the bar and put it back as removed. randydupree93wb
----- Original Message -----
From: ttikalsky
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 1:07 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Tachometer fix


Time to fix the tachometer. I have only owned the wanderlodge for a
few weeks, 2 short weekend trips so far, and have finally opened the
front. Luckily it has a swing radiator, looks like it was modified
after the original build, probably when the new engine was installed.
Any way I need to get the fan off, it is an electric fan and I am not
sure if this was stock I am guesing not because of the "custom" wiring
block mounted on the front of the motor to power the fan. I have
removed the large bolt in the center and I can see a shaft with a
keyway, a bearing and the fan housing. The fan spins freely on the
shaft or should I say on the bearing. Now how do I remove the fan? I
am guessing a puller is needed but not sure. Any one famaliar with
removing this type of fan?

Troy, Waconia MN 83 FC 33





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[ttikalsky]

Thanks for the tip, unfortunatly I already removed the bolts and the
bars and I did not mark them. What does this effect? The bars are on
the outside of the fan support so I don't see how they could effect
anything.

Also I removed the tach drive and the drive pins were good. Any ideas
why the tachometer would work when idling but stop working above idle?
Anyone know how to test voltage output levels and what they should be?

Troy, Waconia MN 83FC33


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, randydupree
wrote:
> stop! remove the 4 bolts that hold the fan and housing to the
block.pay very close attention to the 4 bolts and the long flat bar
the bolts go through.make sure you mark the bar and put it back as
removed. randydupree93wb
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ttikalsky
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 1:07 AM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Tachometer fix
>
>
> Time to fix the tachometer. I have only owned the wanderlodge
for a
> few weeks, 2 short weekend trips so far, and have finally opened
the
> front. Luckily it has a swing radiator, looks like it was
modified
> after the original build, probably when the new engine was
installed.
> Any way I need to get the fan off, it is an electric fan and I am
not
> sure if this was stock I am guesing not because of the "custom"
wiring
> block mounted on the front of the motor to power the fan. I have
> removed the large bolt in the center and I can see a shaft with a
> keyway, a bearing and the fan housing. The fan spins freely on
the
> shaft or should I say on the bearing. Now how do I remove the
fan? I
> am guessing a puller is needed but not sure. Any one famaliar
with
> removing this type of fan?
>
> Troy, Waconia MN 83 FC 33
>
>
>
>
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[Jeff Miller]

The flat bars have holes that are offset toward the inside, have to
be installed again with the holes offset toward the inside/fan shaft.

The tach drive on the '83 is an AC type, also used as cruise-control
sender of that vintage, should increase frequency at increased RPM.
You could use a DMM with a freq. counter on it, see if it is relative
to RPM increase. The only other check I can think of is to put the
output on a scope, and you can drive the sender with a drill if
you're careful.

Check the angle-drive, spin the input adapter with one hand while
providing some resistance to the output cable and see if it slips
internally, some do as the bevel-gears wear. Could also be the
tachometer, although I've never had one fail. The angle-drive is
apparently a special part, I've never been able to find one with a
long enough input reach to clear the engine with a sender on it. BB
should have the angle-drive, and I believe that HMH in Holland also
has a cache of them on-hand, but haven't been there in a while.

Previous years with the 90degree sweep tach. are driven by a DC
generator sender made by AutoMeter.



- Jeff Miller


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ttikalsky"
wrote:
> Thanks for the tip, unfortunatly I already removed the bolts and the
> bars and I did not mark them. What does this effect? The bars are
on
> the outside of the fan support so I don't see how they could effect
> anything.
>
> Also I removed the tach drive and the drive pins were good. Any
ideas
> why the tachometer would work when idling but stop working above
idle?
> Anyone know how to test voltage output levels and what they should
be?
>
> Troy, Waconia MN 83FC33
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, randydupree
> wrote:
> > stop! remove the 4 bolts that hold the fan and housing to the
> block.pay very close attention to the 4 bolts and the long flat bar
> the bolts go through.make sure you mark the bar and put it back as
> removed. randydupree93wb
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: ttikalsky
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 1:07 AM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Tachometer fix
> >
> >
> > Time to fix the tachometer. I have only owned the wanderlodge
> for a
> > few weeks, 2 short weekend trips so far, and have finally opened
> the
> > front. Luckily it has a swing radiator, looks like it was
> modified
> > after the original build, probably when the new engine was
> installed.
> > Any way I need to get the fan off, it is an electric fan and I
am
> not
> > sure if this was stock I am guesing not because of the "custom"
> wiring
> > block mounted on the front of the motor to power the fan. I
have
> > removed the large bolt in the center and I can see a shaft with
a
> > keyway, a bearing and the fan housing. The fan spins freely on
> the
> > shaft or should I say on the bearing. Now how do I remove the
> fan? I
> > am guessing a puller is needed but not sure. Any one famaliar
> with
> > removing this type of fan?
> >
> > Troy, Waconia MN 83 FC 33
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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[randydupree]

the bolt holes in the bars are offset to one side,if installed backwards the
wide side towards the housing,the strap will not go flat against the housing
when the bolts are tightened,then what happens is the housing slips down while
your driving...check it out. randydupree93wb
----- Original Message -----
From: ttikalsky
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:44 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Tachometer fix


Thanks for the tip, unfortunatly I already removed the bolts and the
bars and I did not mark them. What does this effect? The bars are on
the outside of the fan support so I don't see how they could effect
anything.

Also I removed the tach drive and the drive pins were good. Any ideas
why the tachometer would work when idling but stop working above idle?
Anyone know how to test voltage output levels and what they should be?

Troy, Waconia MN 83FC33


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, randydupree
wrote:
> stop! remove the 4 bolts that hold the fan and housing to the
block.pay very close attention to the 4 bolts and the long flat bar
the bolts go through.make sure you mark the bar and put it back as
removed. randydupree93wb
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ttikalsky
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 1:07 AM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Tachometer fix
>
>
> Time to fix the tachometer. I have only owned the wanderlodge
for a
> few weeks, 2 short weekend trips so far, and have finally opened
the
> front. Luckily it has a swing radiator, looks like it was
modified
> after the original build, probably when the new engine was
installed.
> Any way I need to get the fan off, it is an electric fan and I am
not
> sure if this was stock I am guesing not because of the "custom"
wiring
> block mounted on the front of the motor to power the fan. I have
> removed the large bolt in the center and I can see a shaft with a
> keyway, a bearing and the fan housing. The fan spins freely on
the
> shaft or should I say on the bearing. Now how do I remove the
fan? I
> am guessing a puller is needed but not sure. Any one famaliar
with
> removing this type of fan?
>
> Troy, Waconia MN 83 FC 33
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[ttikalsky]

I cleaned and reasembled the tach drive, no broken parts found. I
started the motor and the gauge appears to be working, but when I rev
the engine, quarter throttle max in neutral, the RPM goes over 3000.
Is this correct? There is no red line on the guage. What RPM are
most owners running? I have a 3208T, 225 HP with the 4.89 gear ratio.

Troy, Waconia MN 1983 FC33


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ttikalsky"
wrote:
> Time to fix the tachometer. I have only owned the wanderlodge for a
> few weeks, 2 short weekend trips so far, and have finally opened the
> front. Luckily it has a swing radiator, looks like it was modified
> after the original build, probably when the new engine was installed.
> Any way I need to get the fan off, it is an electric fan and I am not
> sure if this was stock I am guesing not because of the "custom" wiring
> block mounted on the front of the motor to power the fan. I have
> removed the large bolt in the center and I can see a shaft with a
> keyway, a bearing and the fan housing. The fan spins freely on the
> shaft or should I say on the bearing. Now how do I remove the fan? I
> am guessing a puller is needed but not sure. Any one famaliar with
> removing this type of fan?
>
> Troy, Waconia MN 83 FC 33

[Mike Hohnstein]

2800 is normal for your engine. That doesn't mean it's OK to run it there
continuously. 2000/2300 is a safe cruise speed.
Mike Hohnstein
----- Original Message -----
From: ttikalsky
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:37 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Tachometer fix


I cleaned and reasembled the tach drive, no broken parts found. I
started the motor and the gauge appears to be working, but when I rev
the engine, quarter throttle max in neutral, the RPM goes over 3000.
Is this correct? There is no red line on the guage. What RPM are
most owners running? I have a 3208T, 225 HP with the 4.89 gear ratio.

Troy, Waconia MN 1983 FC33


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ttikalsky"
wrote:
> Time to fix the tachometer. I have only owned the wanderlodge for a
> few weeks, 2 short weekend trips so far, and have finally opened the
> front. Luckily it has a swing radiator, looks like it was modified
> after the original build, probably when the new engine was installed.
> Any way I need to get the fan off, it is an electric fan and I am not
> sure if this was stock I am guesing not because of the "custom" wiring
> block mounted on the front of the motor to power the fan. I have
> removed the large bolt in the center and I can see a shaft with a
> keyway, a bearing and the fan housing. The fan spins freely on the
> shaft or should I say on the bearing. Now how do I remove the fan? I
> am guessing a puller is needed but not sure. Any one famaliar with
> removing this type of fan?
>
> Troy, Waconia MN 83 FC 33





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[Chet Geist]

Troy,

Just had a similar problem. After three trips to the truck repair place
problem was solved with a new sending unit. Before biting the bullet for a
new sending unit ($100 +)be sure that right angle drive if in good shape and
that all wiring is good.

Chet Geist
1981 FC33, Austin, Texas
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of ttikalsky
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:38 PM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Tachometer fix


I cleaned and reasembled the tach drive, no broken parts found. I
started the motor and the gauge appears to be working, but when I rev
the engine, quarter throttle max in neutral, the RPM goes over 3000.
Is this correct? There is no red line on the guage. What RPM are
most owners running? I have a 3208T, 225 HP with the 4.89 gear ratio.

Troy, Waconia MN 1983 FC33


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ttikalsky"
wrote:
> Time to fix the tachometer. I have only owned the wanderlodge for a
> few weeks, 2 short weekend trips so far, and have finally opened the
> front. Luckily it has a swing radiator, looks like it was modified
> after the original build, probably when the new engine was installed.
> Any way I need to get the fan off, it is an electric fan and I am not
> sure if this was stock I am guesing not because of the "custom" wiring
> block mounted on the front of the motor to power the fan. I have
> removed the large bolt in the center and I can see a shaft with a
> keyway, a bearing and the fan housing. The fan spins freely on the
> shaft or should I say on the bearing. Now how do I remove the fan? I
> am guessing a puller is needed but not sure. Any one famaliar with
> removing this type of fan?
>
> Troy, Waconia MN 83 FC 33





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[George Lowry]

If you have instrument problems, I suggest that you go to a
speedometer shop or instrument shop. They are the experts and have
the proper equipment and training to quickly diagnose the problem and
repair them. I have found their prices to be less than a general
repair shop who has to go to the instrument shop for the parts and
sometimes the expertise, then add a markup. FWIW.

George Lowry
'95 WBDA 4203 & GM 4106 (for sale)
Spearfish, SD

Chet Geist wrote:

>
> Troy,
>
> Just had a similar problem. After three trips to the truck repair place
> problem was solved with a new sending unit. Before biting the bullet for a
> new sending unit ($100 +)be sure that right angle drive if in good shape and
> that all wiring is good.
>
> Chet Geist
> 1981 FC33, Austin, Texas
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> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of ttikalsky
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:38 PM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Tachometer fix
>
>
> I cleaned and reasembled the tach drive, no broken parts found. I
> started the motor and the gauge appears to be working, but when I rev
> the engine, quarter throttle max in neutral, the RPM goes over 3000.
> Is this correct? There is no red line on the guage. What RPM are
> most owners running? I have a 3208T, 225 HP with the 4.89 gear ratio.
>
> Troy, Waconia MN 1983 FC33
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ttikalsky"
> wrote:
> > Time to fix the tachometer. I have only owned the wanderlodge for a
> > few weeks, 2 short weekend trips so far, and have finally opened the
> > front. Luckily it has a swing radiator, looks like it was modified
> > after the original build, probably when the new engine was installed.
> > Any way I need to get the fan off, it is an electric fan and I am not
> > sure if this was stock I am guesing not because of the "custom" wiring
> > block mounted on the front of the motor to power the fan. I have
> > removed the large bolt in the center and I can see a shaft with a
> > keyway, a bearing and the fan housing. The fan spins freely on the
> > shaft or should I say on the bearing. Now how do I remove the fan? I
> > am guessing a puller is needed but not sure. Any one famaliar with
> > removing this type of fan?
> >
> > Troy, Waconia MN 83 FC 33
>
>
>
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