Rust Conversion and Rust Stop Paints

[ken.hvac-conserve@...]

Anyone have long time experience with rust conversion and rust paint products
and seen them work for 5 plus years?

I drive my 84 Pt 40 in the winter when there is salt on the roads and live on
Chesapeake Bay where there is salt and moisture in the air. And I hope to
continue using my BB for years to come.

1. Most rust areas that I am dealing with are associated with engine
compartments, frame and areas where appearance is not critical.
2. Is there any product that will deal with oily surfaces that cannot be
reached?
3. How long will these products slow down rust?
4. Product cost is not an issue. Labor and experience required for surface prep
is an issue.
5. Who makes the best products that will deal with structural rust issues and
provide a durable surface?

Tks BC

[jr182pilot]

Take a look at this Durabak this stuff, is not just for your truck bed. You can get this with out the rubber granules. I will using this in my cargo holds next year. Something you need to know, once you put it on, you would have a hell of a time getting it off.......Hope this helps...


J R & Deane
Living on the side of the road,
in the middle of nowhere (New Mexico)
Bug Smasher: 1982 PT40
KarKaddy SS/02 Windstar
Cruiseairs & Roof Airs
Red 6V92
Photobucket http://tinyurl.com/cn85dx




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ken.hvac-conserve@..." wrote:
>
> Anyone have long time experience with rust conversion and rust paint products and seen them work for 5 plus years?
>
> I drive my 84 Pt 40 in the winter when there is salt on the roads and live on Chesapeake Bay where there is salt and moisture in the air. And I hope to continue using my BB for years to come.
>
> 1. Most rust areas that I am dealing with are associated with engine compartments, frame and areas where appearance is not critical.
> 2. Is there any product that will deal with oily surfaces that cannot be reached?
> 3. How long will these products slow down rust?
> 4. Product cost is not an issue. Labor and experience required for surface prep is an issue.
> 5. Who makes the best products that will deal with structural rust issues and provide a durable surface?
>
> Tks BC
>

[david brady]

I've had great success with POR15.



David Brady

'02 LXi, NC



On 8/22/2010 11:27 AM, "ken.hvac-conserve@att.net" wrote:

Anyone have long time experience with rust conversion and
rust paint products and seen them work for 5 plus years?



I drive my 84 Pt 40 in the winter when there is salt on
the roads and live on Chesapeake Bay where there is salt
and moisture in the air. And I hope to continue using my
BB for years to come.



1. Most rust areas that I am dealing with are associated
with engine compartments, frame and areas where appearance
is not critical.

2. Is there any product that will deal with oily surfaces
that cannot be reached?

3. How long will these products slow down rust?

4. Product cost is not an issue. Labor and experience
required for surface prep is an issue.

5. Who makes the best products that will deal with
structural rust issues and provide a durable surface?



Tks BC

[Leroy]

POR 15. Use as directed. Rock solid when applied properly. Permanent. Cannot
expose to UV. If exposed it must be coated.

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "jr182pilot"
wrote:
>
> Take a look at this Durabak <http://www.durabakcompany.com/index.htm>
> this stuff, is not just for your truck bed. You can get this with out
> the rubber granules. I will using this in my cargo holds next year.
> Something you need to know, once you put it on, you would have a hell of
> a time getting it off.......Hope this helps...
>
>
> J R & Deane
> Living on the side of the road,
> in the middle of nowhere (New Mexico)
> Bug Smasher: 1982 PT40
> KarKaddy SS/02 Windstar
> Cruiseairs & Roof Airs
> Red 6V92
> Photobucket http://tinyurl.com/cn85dx <http://tinyurl.com/cn85dx>
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ken.hvac-conserve@"
> wrote:
> >
> > Anyone have long time experience with rust conversion and rust paint
> products and seen them work for 5 plus years?
> >
> > I drive my 84 Pt 40 in the winter when there is salt on the roads and
> live on Chesapeake Bay where there is salt and moisture in the air. And
> I hope to continue using my BB for years to come.
> >
> > 1. Most rust areas that I am dealing with are associated with engine
> compartments, frame and areas where appearance is not critical.
> > 2. Is there any product that will deal with oily surfaces that cannot
> be reached?
> > 3. How long will these products slow down rust?
> > 4. Product cost is not an issue. Labor and experience required for
> surface prep is an issue.
> > 5. Who makes the best products that will deal with structural rust
> issues and provide a durable surface?
> >
> > Tks BC
> >
>

[david brady]

Permament, but easily removed with Klean-Strip

Aircraft Paint Remover, part no: QAR343



www.kleanstripauto.com



David Brady

'02 LXi, NC



On 9/7/2010 8:02 AM, Leroy wrote:

POR 15. Use as directed. Rock solid when applied
properly. Permanent. Cannot expose to UV. If exposed it
must be coated.



--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",
"jr182pilot" "fatguyslim.82bbwlpt40@..." wrote:

>

> Take a look at this Durabak <http://www.durabakcompany.com/index.htm>


> this stuff, is not just for your truck bed. You can
get this with out

> the rubber granules. I will using this in my cargo
holds next year.

> Something you need to know, once you put it on, you
would have a hell of

> a time getting it off.......Hope this helps...

>

>

> J R & Deane

> Living on the side of the road,

> in the middle of nowhere (New Mexico)

> Bug Smasher: 1982 PT40

> KarKaddy SS/02 Windstar

> Cruiseairs & Roof Airs

> Red 6V92

> Photobucket http://tinyurl.com/cn85dx
<http://tinyurl.com/cn85dx>

>

>

>

>

> --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",
"ken.hvac-conserve@"

> wrote:

> >

> > Anyone have long time experience with rust
conversion and rust paint

> products and seen them work for 5 plus years?

> >

> > I drive my 84 Pt 40 in the winter when there is
salt on the roads and

> live on Chesapeake Bay where there is salt and
moisture in the air. And

> I hope to continue using my BB for years to come.

> >

> > 1. Most rust areas that I am dealing with are
associated with engine

> compartments, frame and areas where appearance is not
critical.

> > 2. Is there any product that will deal with oily
surfaces that cannot

> be reached?

> > 3. How long will these products slow down rust?

> > 4. Product cost is not an issue. Labor and
experience required for

> surface prep is an issue.

> > 5. Who makes the best products that will deal
with structural rust

> issues and provide a durable surface?

> >

> > Tks BC

> >

>

[Donald Spithaler]

I tried the Durabak UV with the nonslip in it on my entrance steps. I used the black on it. It looks good if it holds up. I never found anything that I liked on them before. It was easy to put on also. I used there roller to put it on. I also tried it with a under coating spray gun which was easier.     David that is good to know that Klean-Strip will remove Por-15 if I ever have to take mine off.

Don Spithaler
89 SP 36'
Butler, PA    

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:53 AM, david brady <"dmb993@earthlink.net"> wrote:

 

Permament, but easily removed with Klean-Strip

Aircraft Paint Remover, part no: QAR343



www.kleanstripauto.com

David Brady

'02 LXi, NC

On 9/7/2010 8:02 AM, Leroy wrote:

 

POR 15. Use as directed. Rock solid when applied
properly. Permanent. Cannot expose to UV. If exposed it
must be coated.



--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",
"jr182pilot" "fatguyslim.82bbwlpt40@..." wrote:

>

> Take a look at this Durabak <http://www.durabakcompany.com/index.htm>


> this stuff, is not just for your truck bed. You can
get this with out

> the rubber granules. I will using this in my cargo
holds next year.

> Something you need to know, once you put it on, you
would have a hell of

> a time getting it off.......Hope this helps...

>

>

> J R & Deane

> Living on the side of the road,

> in the middle of nowhere (New Mexico)

> Bug Smasher: 1982 PT40

> KarKaddy SS/02 Windstar

> Cruiseairs & Roof Airs

> Red 6V92

> Photobucket http://tinyurl.com/cn85dx
<http://tinyurl.com/cn85dx>

>

>

>

>

> --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",
"ken.hvac-conserve@"

> wrote:

> >

> > Anyone have long time experience with rust
conversion and rust paint

> products and seen them work for 5 plus years?

> >

> > I drive my 84 Pt 40 in the winter when there is
salt on the roads and

> live on Chesapeake Bay where there is salt and
moisture in the air. And

> I hope to continue using my BB for years to come.

> >

> > 1. Most rust areas that I am dealing with are
associated with engine

> compartments, frame and areas where appearance is not
critical.

> > 2. Is there any product that will deal with oily
surfaces that cannot

> be reached?

> > 3. How long will these products slow down rust?

> > 4. Product cost is not an issue. Labor and
experience required for

> surface prep is an issue.

> > 5. Who makes the best products that will deal
with structural rust

> issues and provide a durable surface?

> >

> > Tks BC

> >

>

[Eric]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ken.hvac-conserve@..."
wrote:
>
> Anyone have long time experience with rust conversion and rust paint products
and seen them work for 5 plus years?
>
> I drive my 84 Pt 40 in the winter when there is salt on the roads and live on
Chesapeake Bay where there is salt and moisture in the air. And I hope to
continue using my BB for years to come.
>
> 1. Most rust areas that I am dealing with are associated with engine
compartments, frame and areas where appearance is not critical.
> 2. Is there any product that will deal with oily surfaces that cannot be
reached?
> 3. How long will these products slow down rust?
> 4. Product cost is not an issue. Labor and experience required for surface
prep is an issue.
> 5. Who makes the best products that will deal with structural rust issues and
provide a durable surface?
>
> Tks BC
>

[Eric]

I've use POR-15 for about 5 years. Great stuff. You can achieve a great high
gloss finish with POR-15 more easily than almost any paint I have tried. I have
used it on heavily rusted frame members as well as prepainted surfaces. The
only (optional) pre-painting chemical is another POR-15 product called Marine
Clean. (A very caustic, aggressive water based solvent that removes oily film
which POR-15 doesn't like.) Spray it on, hose it off. As I read the
instructions the only time a primer is recommended is when you have new metal.
I have primed some surfaces before I used POR-15. I didn't like it. The
Rustolem primer I used was much softer, when dried, than the POR-15. I didn't
like having a softer underlayer for the POR-15. It can be applied directly to
heavily rusted (descaled) iron and seems to me to work very well, because of the
extra tooth the rusted surface provides.

POR-15 is one part, moisture curing, polyurethane paint. Incredibly tough. You
can almost not abrade it with sand paper. You can just abrade it with a file
and a strong arm. Striking the finish with a hammer doesn't do much unless you
deform the metal underneath. At least 2 coats are recommended with about 3-4
hours between coats. In desert climates almost 8 to 24 hours can be required
between coats (it's moisture cured.)

Cleanup is a bit of a bear. Lacquer thinner works. If you buy POR-15 I would
strongly suggest small containers. Ebay is where I bought my supplies although
many automotive paint stores also carry it (usually in quart cans). I recently
use POR 2500 degree high temperature paint on my new muffler system. I'll tell
you how it works in 5 years.

Happy trails,

Eric Perplies
96 PT-42
In WA loading up to follow the sun.