Powder Balancing

[Jon]

What does this mean? Jon
Jon Lechich
jipjob@...

[George Lowry]

Hi Jon,

There are at least two different "powder" materials that are used for
balancing of tires. The one I am familiar with is "Equal". I have
used it on two coaches so far and I believe it is superior to the
Centromatics balancers that I used to have. What they do is put a
measured amount in your tire in a package. The package disintegrates
in a couple of hundred miles and then you have complete usage. As the
tire turns, the powder redistributes itself so as to keep the
tire/wheel in balance. I have bee told that is also tends to keep the
tread flatter against the road surface giving you better traction.

To my knowledge, Equal is only available for the larger truck/bus
tires. I have been told that they are working on a formula that will
work on the smaller (more turns per mile) tires for cars. The other
brand, which I cannot remember the name of right now, claims that
theirs will work in any size tire. It sure is nice not having to
rebalance every so often...

BTW, I have Equal in all eight tires.

George Lowry
'95 WBDA 4203 & GM 4106 (for sale)
Spearfish, SD

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[pattypape]

Does anyone have experience with the power clogging up the tire
stem/valves??
Bill 88 FC

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, George Lowry
wrote:
> Hi Jon,
>
> There are at least two different "powder" materials that are used
for
> balancing of tires. The one I am familiar with is "Equal". I
have
> used it on two coaches so far and I believe it is superior to the
> Centromatics balancers that I used to have. What they do is put
a
> measured amount in your tire in a package. The package
disintegrates
> in a couple of hundred miles and then you have complete usage. As
the
> tire turns, the powder redistributes itself so as to keep the
> tire/wheel in balance. I have bee told that is also tends to keep
the
> tread flatter against the road surface giving you better traction.
>
> To my knowledge, Equal is only available for the larger truck/bus
> tires. I have been told that they are working on a formula that
will
> work on the smaller (more turns per mile) tires for cars. The
other
> brand, which I cannot remember the name of right now, claims that
> theirs will work in any size tire. It sure is nice not having to
> rebalance every so often...
>
> BTW, I have Equal in all eight tires.
>
> George Lowry
> '95 WBDA 4203 & GM 4106 (for sale)
> Spearfish, SD
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[DAY8293A@...]

they put a power in the tire that spreads around the tire on the
inside, and balances it out !! seems to work,,, day jax fla pt-40


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[randydupree]

it takes a special valve core when you use equal.i have it in my new
toyos.randydupree93wb
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Does anyone have experience with the power clogging up the tire
stem/valves??
Bill 88 FC

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, George Lowry
wrote:
> Hi Jon,
>
> There are at least two different "powder" materials that are used
for
> balancing of tires. The one I am familiar with is "Equal". I
have
> used it on two coaches so far and I believe it is superior to the
> Centromatics balancers that I used to have. What they do is put
a
> measured amount in your tire in a package. The package
disintegrates
> in a couple of hundred miles and then you have complete usage. As
the
> tire turns, the powder redistributes itself so as to keep the
> tire/wheel in balance. I have bee told that is also tends to keep
the
> tread flatter against the road surface giving you better traction.
>
> To my knowledge, Equal is only available for the larger truck/bus
> tires. I have been told that they are working on a formula that
will
> work on the smaller (more turns per mile) tires for cars. The
other
> brand, which I cannot remember the name of right now, claims that
> theirs will work in any size tire. It sure is nice not having to
> rebalance every so often...
>
> BTW, I have Equal in all eight tires.
>
> George Lowry
> '95 WBDA 4203 & GM 4106 (for sale)
> Spearfish, SD
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> Jon wrote:
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> > What does this mean? Jon
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[DAY8293A@...]

yes,,, i had it happen on the two new front tires i just had
installed,, day,, jax fla 83 pt-40


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[Bob & Carol Howald`]

I did not know that there was anything different about the valve
core . I thought they just put the colored bands on them to show to the
next tire mechanic that the tires infact had equal in them. What would
be the difference in the valve core ??? Bob 93pt illinois

[Tom Warner]

The valve core has a filter in it so that the powder cannot get into the
valve stem and cause it to stick. Make sure if you do get equal that you
get these valve stems installed.

Actually I would not install equal in a RV tire unless you are going to put
a lot of miles on the tires. If it sits for any length of time and there is
even the slightest amount of water vapor in the tire the equal may clump.
Truckers use it and do not have these problems because the tires are
constantly moving.

On the other hand I have about 40# of Counteract balancing beads a compound
which I believe is better for RV use. I am not a dealer and do not intend
to sell it although I have the equipment and the product to both inject the
beads thru the vavle stem on a installed tire and the bags that are thrown
into the casing on new tires.
http://www.wheelweights.com/cbb-brochure.pdf#search='counteract%20balancing%20be\
ads'

Counteract balancing beads differ from equal in that the composition of the
beads and the fact that water moisture does not effect it. In addition
counteract balancing beads come in two different compositions one for cars
and one for trucks or RVs. The two different beads are engineered for the
different tire rebounding characteristics between cars and trucks.

I now have it in my steer tires and when I install the new tires will
install it in both the steers and the rear duals.

tom
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY




bAt 03:05 AM 6/21/2005 +0000, you wrote:
> I did not know that there was anything different about the valve
>core . I thought they just put the colored bands on them to show to the
>next tire mechanic that the tires infact had equal in them. What would
>be the difference in the valve core ??? Bob 93pt illinois
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[jon lechich]

Is this rebounding characteristic that noticeable when you do not have this
material in your tires? Does it make for a smoother ride? Jon
Jon Lechich
Bremerton Washington

Tom Warner wrote:
The valve core has a filter in it so that the powder cannot get into the
valve stem and cause it to stick. Make sure if you do get equal that you
get these valve stems installed.

Actually I would not install equal in a RV tire unless you are going to put
a lot of miles on the tires. If it sits for any length of time and there is
even the slightest amount of water vapor in the tire the equal may clump.
Truckers use it and do not have these problems because the tires are
constantly moving.

On the other hand I have about 40# of Counteract balancing beads a compound
which I believe is better for RV use. I am not a dealer and do not intend
to sell it although I have the equipment and the product to both inject the
beads thru the vavle stem on a installed tire and the bags that are thrown
into the casing on new tires.
http://www.wheelweights.com/cbb-brochure.pdf#search='counteract%20balancing%20be\
ads'

Counteract balancing beads differ from equal in that the composition of the
beads and the fact that water moisture does not effect it. In addition
counteract balancing beads come in two different compositions one for cars
and one for trucks or RVs. The two different beads are engineered for the
different tire rebounding characteristics between cars and trucks.

I now have it in my steer tires and when I install the new tires will
install it in both the steers and the rear duals.

tom
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY




bAt 03:05 AM 6/21/2005 +0000, you wrote:
> I did not know that there was anything different about the valve
>core . I thought they just put the colored bands on them to show to the
>next tire mechanic that the tires infact had equal in them. What would
>be the difference in the valve core ??? Bob 93pt illinois
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[Tom Warner]

Jon I can sure feel an out of balance tire and the heavier the tire is the
more you can feel it. It is this out of balance condition that forces the
tire down against the pavement and the resulting rebound that causes the
balancing beads to be forced to a point opposite to the heavy spot in the
tire. The company has found that in the case of an automobile the
suspension is designed for a much smooter ride and the beads designed for
trucks do not distribute themselves the same way when installed in an
automobile.

tom
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY

At 09:34 PM 6/20/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>Is this rebounding characteristic that noticeable when you do not have
>this material in your tires? Does it make for a smoother ride? Jon
>Jon Lechich
>Bremerton Washington
>
>Tom Warner wrote:
>The valve core has a filter in it so that the powder cannot get into the
>valve stem and cause it to stick. Make sure if you do get equal that you
>get these valve stems installed.
>
>Actually I would not install equal in a RV tire unless you are going to put
>a lot of miles on the tires. If it sits for any length of time and there is
>even the slightest amount of water vapor in the tire the equal may clump.
>Truckers use it and do not have these problems because the tires are
>constantly moving.
>
>On the other hand I have about 40# of Counteract balancing beads a compound
>which I believe is better for RV use. I am not a dealer and do not intend
>to sell it although I have the equipment and the product to both inject the
>beads thru the vavle stem on a installed tire and the bags that are thrown
>into the casing on new tires.
>http://www.wheelweights.com/cbb-brochure.pdf#search='counteract%20balancing%20b\
eads'
>
>Counteract balancing beads differ from equal in that the composition of the
>beads and the fact that water moisture does not effect it. In addition
>counteract balancing beads come in two different compositions one for cars
>and one for trucks or RVs. The two different beads are engineered for the
>different tire rebounding characteristics between cars and trucks.
>
>I now have it in my steer tires and when I install the new tires will
>install it in both the steers and the rear duals.
>
>tom
>1982 FC35
>Vernon Center,NY
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>bAt 03:05 AM 6/21/2005 +0000, you wrote:
> > I did not know that there was anything different about the valve
> >core . I thought they just put the colored bands on them to show to the
> >next tire mechanic that the tires infact had equal in them. What would
> >be the difference in the valve core ??? Bob 93pt illinois
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