Rear LP furnace wont light

[wl89spman]

My rear LP furnace, under all the dresser drawers wont light. Blower comes on
but I dont hear any sparking from the igniter,therefore it never lights the gas.
Gas valve is turned to on, all other heaters work ,also cooktop works. Dash
sw(lp heat) is on.
My question is 'how do you remove it to check it out(89 SP36)?Have any of you
removed this furnace(NT-16SW).How do get to the elec. connectionin the rear?
Any advice and or experiences would be welcomed...


Thanks

Ed Gardels 89SP
Arlington

[ronmarabito2002]

Ed: There is a little inspection window that can be opened. Right behind that
is the igniter. Open it and check for ash bridging the gap. The furnace
produces flakes of ash and they can get in the way. Vacumn out the area and
then try it. If you still have no spark, the gap between the electrode and the
gas burner might be too great. I'm going to bet you have ash in the way.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "wl89spman" wrote:
>
> My rear LP furnace, under all the dresser drawers wont light. Blower comes
on but I dont hear any sparking from the igniter,therefore it never lights the
gas. Gas valve is turned to on, all other heaters work ,also cooktop works. Dash
sw(lp heat) is on.
> My question is 'how do you remove it to check it out(89 SP36)?Have any of
you removed this furnace(NT-16SW).How do get to the elec. connectionin the rear?
> Any advice and or experiences would be welcomed...
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Ed Gardels 89SP
> Arlington
>

[wl89spman]

Thanks Ron for help. Ill chech that tommorrow.Actually I tried to get the
ignator out today and couldnt break the screws loose, even with liquid wrench...

thanks Ron

Ed Gardels 89SP
Arlington


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002"
wrote:
>
> Ed: There is a little inspection window that can be opened. Right behind
that is the igniter. Open it and check for ash bridging the gap. The furnace
produces flakes of ash and they can get in the way. Vacumn out the area and
then try it. If you still have no spark, the gap between the electrode and the
gas burner might be too great. I'm going to bet you have ash in the way.
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "wl89spman" wrote:
> >
> > My rear LP furnace, under all the dresser drawers wont light. Blower comes
on but I dont hear any sparking from the igniter,therefore it never lights the
gas. Gas valve is turned to on, all other heaters work ,also cooktop works. Dash
sw(lp heat) is on.
> > My question is 'how do you remove it to check it out(89 SP36)?Have any of
you removed this furnace(NT-16SW).How do get to the elec. connectionin the rear?
> > Any advice and or experiences would be welcomed...
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ed Gardels 89SP
> > Arlington
> >
>

[sfedeli3]

Ed, Soak the screws and let stand overnight. They will need to soak. Carefully
remove the ignitor assembly (thing with the wires) by removing the two hex-head
screws and see if the ignitor is grounded out or filthy. Be gentle with the
gasket- they can crumble easily. Clean the ends with some emery paper. Usually,
the middle pin is a ground. The one on the left is the ignitor and the other one
goes to the thermocouple. The ignitor should be 1/8" from the center ground pin
and the Thermocouple should be 1/4 from it. When you start the unit, a fan
should come on and then a few seconds later, you should be hearing an audible
"click" from the propane solenoid opening. If you are not getting the click,
you'll need to pull out the unit and check the sail switch just behind the
blower fan. Sometimes, they can accumulate dust and will not open entirely.

Shane Fedeli
1985PT40
Hershey, PA

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "wl89spman" wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Ron for help. Ill chech that tommorrow.Actually I tried to get the
ignator out today and couldnt break the screws loose, even with liquid wrench...
>
> thanks Ron
>
> Ed Gardels 89SP
> Arlington
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002"
wrote:
> >
> > Ed: There is a little inspection window that can be opened. Right behind
that is the igniter. Open it and check for ash bridging the gap. The furnace
produces flakes of ash and they can get in the way. Vacumn out the area and
then try it. If you still have no spark, the gap between the electrode and the
gas burner might be too great. I'm going to bet you have ash in the way.
> >
> > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "wl89spman" wrote:
> > >
> > > My rear LP furnace, under all the dresser drawers wont light. Blower
comes on but I dont hear any sparking from the igniter,therefore it never lights
the gas. Gas valve is turned to on, all other heaters work ,also cooktop works.
Dash sw(lp heat) is on.
> > > My question is 'how do you remove it to check it out(89 SP36)?Have any
of you removed this furnace(NT-16SW).How do get to the elec. connectionin the
rear?
> > > Any advice and or experiences would be welcomed...
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Ed Gardels 89SP
> > > Arlington
> > >
> >
>

[Ernie Ekberg]

Dan Sunderland showed me a can of penetrating oil that he claimed was better then PB blaster. I tried some on my 28 year old pop-off valve on my hot water heater. Sure enough, it works. It is called Kano- Aero-kroil www.kanolabs.com Of course I would LIKE to have a financial interest in this company. Gotta get back to work demolishing an Lxi in my front yard~ Ernie Ekberg 83 PT40 Weatherford, Tx 76086 817-475-3991 www.ernieekbergflooring.net --- On Tue, 2/8/11, sfedeli3 <sfedeli3@...> wrote: From: sfedeli3 <sfedeli3@...> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rear LP furnace wont light To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 8, 2011, 10:14 AM Ed, Soak the screws and let stand overnight. They will need to soak. Carefully remove the ignitor assembly (thing with the wires) by removing the two hex-head screws and see if the ignitor is grounded out or filthy. Be gentle with the gasket- they can crumble easily. Clean the ends with some emery paper. Usually, the middle pin is a ground. The one on the left is the ignitor and the other one goes to the thermocouple. The ignitor should be 1/8" from the center ground pin and the Thermocouple should be 1/4 from it. When you start the unit, a fan should come on and then a few seconds later, you should be hearing an audible "click" from the propane solenoid opening. If you are not getting the click, you'll need to pull out the unit and check the sail switch just behind the blower fan. Sometimes, they can accumulate dust and will not open entirely. Shane Fedeli 1985PT40 Hershey, PA --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "wl89spman" wrote: > > > Thanks Ron for help. Ill chech that tommorrow.Actually I tried to get the ignator out today and couldnt break the screws loose, even with liquid wrench... > > thanks Ron > > Ed Gardels 89SP > Arlington > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002" wrote: > > > > Ed: There is a little inspection window that can be opened. Right behind that is the igniter. Open it and check for ash bridging the gap. The furnace produces flakes of ash and they can get in the way. Vacumn out the area and then try it. If you still have no spark, the gap between the electrode and the gas burner might be too great. I'm going to bet you have ash in the way. > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40 > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "wl89spman" wrote: > > > > > > My rear LP furnace, under all the dresser drawers wont light. Blower comes on but I dont hear any sparking from the igniter,therefore it never lights the gas. Gas valve is turned to on, all other heaters work ,also cooktop works. Dash sw(lp heat) is on. > > > My question is 'how do you remove it to check it out(89 SP36)?Have any of you removed this furnace(NT-16SW).How do get to the elec. connectionin the rear? > > > Any advice and or experiences would be welcomed... > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Ed Gardels 89SP > > > Arlington > > > > > >

[wl89spman]

Thanks, Ernie and Shane for your help. I did get the screws out so I pulled out
the ignitor and it looked brand new. Now rust or ashes. Now I'm atempting to
remove the furnace so I can maybe see the problem. Still have heard from anybody
that has removed one. Am having to remove vent to bathroom through cabinent.

thanks
Ed Gardels 89SP
Arlington, Texas


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "sfedeli3" <sfedeli3@...> wrote:
>
> Ed, Soak the screws and let stand overnight. They will need to soak. Carefully
remove the ignitor assembly (thing with the wires) by removing the two hex-head
screws and see if the ignitor is grounded out or filthy. Be gentle with the
gasket- they can crumble easily. Clean the ends with some emery paper. Usually,
the middle pin is a ground. The one on the left is the ignitor and the other one
goes to the thermocouple. The ignitor should be 1/8" from the center ground pin
and the Thermocouple should be 1/4 from it. When you start the unit, a fan
should come on and then a few seconds later, you should be hearing an audible
"click" from the propane solenoid opening. If you are not getting the click,
you'll need to pull out the unit and check the sail switch just behind the
blower fan. Sometimes, they can accumulate dust and will not open entirely.
>
> Shane Fedeli
> 1985PT40
> Hershey, PA
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "wl89spman" wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks Ron for help. Ill chech that tommorrow.Actually I tried to get the
ignator out today and couldnt break the screws loose, even with liquid wrench...
> >
> > thanks Ron
> >
> > Ed Gardels 89SP
> > Arlington
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002"
wrote:
> > >
> > > Ed: There is a little inspection window that can be opened. Right behind
that is the igniter. Open it and check for ash bridging the gap. The furnace
produces flakes of ash and they can get in the way. Vacumn out the area and
then try it. If you still have no spark, the gap between the electrode and the
gas burner might be too great. I'm going to bet you have ash in the way.
> > >
> > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "wl89spman" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > My rear LP furnace, under all the dresser drawers wont light. Blower
comes on but I dont hear any sparking from the igniter,therefore it never lights
the gas. Gas valve is turned to on, all other heaters work ,also cooktop works.
Dash sw(lp heat) is on.
> > > > My question is 'how do you remove it to check it out(89 SP36)?Have any
of you removed this furnace(NT-16SW).How do get to the elec. connectionin the
rear?
> > > > Any advice and or experiences would be welcomed...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Ed Gardels 89SP
> > > > Arlington
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[ronmarabito2002]

Ed: Was the igniter actually sparking? The funaces also have a sail switch
that must function in order for the gas valve to open. When the fan starts
blowing, it causes the sail to move and open the switch. Check for continuity
through the switch.

R.E. (ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "wl89spman" wrote:
>
> Thanks, Ernie and Shane for your help. I did get the screws out so I pulled
out the ignitor and it looked brand new. Now rust or ashes. Now I'm atempting to
remove the furnace so I can maybe see the problem. Still have heard from anybody
that has removed one. Am having to remove vent to bathroom through cabinent.
>
> thanks
> Ed Gardels 89SP
> Arlington, Texas
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "sfedeli3" <sfedeli3@> wrote:
> >
> > Ed, Soak the screws and let stand overnight. They will need to soak.
Carefully remove the ignitor assembly (thing with the wires) by removing the two
hex-head screws and see if the ignitor is grounded out or filthy. Be gentle with
the gasket- they can crumble easily. Clean the ends with some emery paper.
Usually, the middle pin is a ground. The one on the left is the ignitor and the
other one goes to the thermocouple. The ignitor should be 1/8" from the center
ground pin and the Thermocouple should be 1/4 from it. When you start the unit,
a fan should come on and then a few seconds later, you should be hearing an
audible "click" from the propane solenoid opening. If you are not getting the
click, you'll need to pull out the unit and check the sail switch just behind
the blower fan. Sometimes, they can accumulate dust and will not open entirely.
> >
> > Shane Fedeli
> > 1985PT40
> > Hershey, PA
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "wl89spman" wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Ron for help. Ill chech that tommorrow.Actually I tried to get the
ignator out today and couldnt break the screws loose, even with liquid wrench...
> > >
> > > thanks Ron
> > >
> > > Ed Gardels 89SP
> > > Arlington
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002"
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ed: There is a little inspection window that can be opened. Right
behind that is the igniter. Open it and check for ash bridging the gap. The
furnace produces flakes of ash and they can get in the way. Vacumn out the area
and then try it. If you still have no spark, the gap between the electrode and
the gas burner might be too great. I'm going to bet you have ash in the way.
> > > >
> > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "wl89spman" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > My rear LP furnace, under all the dresser drawers wont light. Blower
comes on but I dont hear any sparking from the igniter,therefore it never lights
the gas. Gas valve is turned to on, all other heaters work ,also cooktop works.
Dash sw(lp heat) is on.
> > > > > My question is 'how do you remove it to check it out(89 SP36)?Have
any of you removed this furnace(NT-16SW).How do get to the elec. connectionin
the rear?
> > > > > Any advice and or experiences would be welcomed...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Ed Gardels 89SP
> > > > > Arlington
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[Chuck Wheeler]

Looks like I responded to the wrong email!

Ed,

I have “overhauled” all three of the furnaces in our 82
so if you need any help or information give me a call. I can’t tell
you how to get the furnace our of a SP but can say to look real
carefully. I started to tale the cabinet apart to remove one of ours only
to discover that all the parts around the furnace was held in place by magnets.
I all of ours the case stayed in place. There were two screws
in front, then I had to remove the gas line and the screw through the exhaust
and the “works” slid out.

-
Chuck
Wheeler-

-
1982 FCSB Fort Worth TX -

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Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011
8:28 PM

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re:
Rear LP furnace wont light

Thanks, Ernie and Shane for your help. I did get the
screws out so I pulled out the ignitor and it looked brand new. Now rust or
ashes. Now I'm atempting to remove the furnace so I can maybe see the problem.
Still have heard from anybody that has removed one. Am having to remove vent to
bathroom through cabinent.



thanks

Ed Gardels 89SP

Arlington, Texas



--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",
"sfedeli3" <sfedeli3@...> wrote:

>

> Ed, Soak the screws and let stand overnight. They will need to soak.
Carefully remove the ignitor assembly (thing with the wires) by removing the
two hex-head screws and see if the ignitor is grounded out or filthy. Be gentle
with the gasket- they can crumble easily. Clean the ends with some emery paper.
Usually, the middle pin is a ground. The one on the left is the ignitor and the
other one goes to the thermocouple. The ignitor should be 1/8" from the
center ground pin and the Thermocouple should be 1/4 from it. When you start
the unit, a fan should come on and then a few seconds later, you should be
hearing an audible "click" from the propane solenoid opening. If you
are not getting the click, you'll need to pull out the unit and check the sail
switch just behind the blower fan. Sometimes, they can accumulate dust and will
not open entirely.

>

> Shane Fedeli

> 1985PT40

> Hershey, PA

>

> --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",
"wl89spman" wrote:

> >

> >

> > Thanks Ron for help. Ill chech that tommorrow.Actually I tried to get
the ignator out today and couldnt break the screws loose, even with liquid
wrench...

> >

> > thanks Ron

> >

> > Ed Gardels 89SP

> > Arlington

> >

> >

> > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",
"ronmarabito2002" wrote:

> > >

> > > Ed: There is a little inspection window that can be opened.
Right behind that is the igniter. Open it and check for ash bridging the gap.
The furnace produces flakes of ash and they can get in the way. Vacumn out the
area and then try it. If you still have no spark, the gap between the electrode
and the gas burner might be too great. I'm going to bet you have ash in the
way.

> > >

> > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas,
TX 92WB40

> > >

> > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",
"wl89spman" wrote:

> > > >

> > > > My rear LP furnace, under all the dresser drawers wont
light. Blower comes on but I dont hear any sparking from the igniter,therefore
it never lights the gas. Gas valve is turned to on, all other heaters work
,also cooktop works. Dash sw(lp heat) is on.

> > > > My question is 'how do you remove it to check it out(89
SP36)?Have any of you removed this furnace(NT-16SW).How do get to the elec.
connectionin the rear?

> > > > Any advice and or experiences would be welcomed...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > >

> > > > Ed Gardels 89SP

> > > > Arlington

> > > >

> > >

> >

>