Bye bye Microphor!

[luckyron1]

We wound up trashing the Microphor. Good riddance!! But the Vetus Macerator
(WC12L2) installation was not easy. The nearest 12 vt wire was in the chase on
the outside wall and too thin. It was only 14 gauge, so we couldn't use it
because the toilet is wired with 12 gauge and the manual stipulated a 30 amp
fuse, go figure. Anyway, we started the 10 gauge wire in the inverter bay (which
is on the middle of the passenger side) with a 30 amp resettable breaker,
forward to the cage wall, then across to the driver's side, then back to come up
thru the chase between the kitchen and bathroom, then into the wall behind the
toilet to the drain outlet, and out to the back of the toilet. We put the switch
on the chase beside the toilet. Very clean. As usual, a very professional job by
a former Prevost tech now domiciled near San Antonio, Stagecoach RV Service. We
recommend him highly.

2000 LXI
About to leave for MN

[Ron Thompson]

I have a Microphor in my rig. I have had no trouble with it, at least so far. What is it about the Microphor that you didn't like. I am curious and wondering if it is something I should be on the lookout for. Thanks for your input. Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx. 1995 WLWB 42' (cockyfox@...) --- On Sun, 5/1/11, luckyron1 wrote: From: luckyron1 Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Bye bye Microphor! To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 3:16 AM We wound up trashing the Microphor. Good riddance!! But the Vetus Macerator (WC12L2) installation was not easy. The nearest 12 vt wire was in the chase on the outside wall and too thin. It was only 14 gauge, so we couldn't use it because the toilet is wired with 12 gauge and the manual stipulated a 30 amp fuse, go figure. Anyway, we started the 10 gauge wire in the inverter bay (which is on the middle of the passenger side) with a 30 amp resettable breaker, forward to the cage wall, then across to the driver's side, then back to come up thru the chase between the kitchen and bathroom, then into the wall behind the toilet to the drain outlet, and out to the back of the toilet. We put the switch on the chase beside the toilet. Very clean. As usual, a very professional job by a former Prevost tech now domiciled near San Antonio, Stagecoach RV Service. We recommend him highly. 2000 LXI About to leave for MN

[Curt Sprenger]

I trashed our Microphor too....because...flushes used too much water (we dry camp some), parts are expensive, did not wish to have a future date compressor purchase, the compressor using 12v power while dry camping, wanted a less complex toilet, wanted a toilet that can be flushed without the compressor and the hopper set up leaving us stranded.

   
Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA
"curtsprenger@gmail.com"

On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Ron Thompson <"cockyfox@sbcglobal.net"> wrote:

 

I have a Microphor in my rig.  I have had no trouble with it, at least so far.  What is it about the Microphor that you didn't like.  I am curious and wondering if it is something I should be on the lookout for.  Thanks for your input. Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx. 1995 WLWB 42' ("cockyfox@sbcglobal.net") --- On Sun, 5/1/11, luckyron1 <"luckyron1@yahoo.com"> wrote: From: luckyron1 <"luckyron1@yahoo.com"> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Bye bye Microphor! To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 3:16 AM   We wound up trashing the Microphor. Good riddance!! But the Vetus Macerator (WC12L2) installation was not easy. The nearest 12 vt wire was in the chase on the outside wall and too thin. It was only 14 gauge, so we couldn't use it because the toilet is wired with 12 gauge and the manual stipulated a 30 amp fuse, go figure. Anyway, we started the 10 gauge wire in the inverter bay (which is on the middle of the passenger side) with a 30 amp resettable breaker, forward to the cage wall, then across to the driver's side, then back to come up thru the chase between the kitchen and bathroom, then into the wall behind the toilet to the drain outlet, and out to the back of the toilet. We put the switch on the chase beside the toilet. Very clean. As usual, a very professional job by a former Prevost tech now domiciled near San Antonio, Stagecoach RV Service. We recommend him highly. 2000 LXI About to leave for MN

[lspargur]

I also have a Microphor in my rig. I have had no trouble with it, at least so
far. What is it about the Microphor that you didn't like? I am curious and
wondering if it is something I should be on the lookout for. Thanks for your
input.
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> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Bye bye Microphor!
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 3:16 AM
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> We wound up trashing the Microphor. Good riddance!! But the Vetus
Macerator (WC12L2) installation was not easy. The nearest 12 vt wire was in the
chase on the outside wall and too thin. It was only 14 gauge, so we couldn't use
it because the toilet is wired with 12 gauge and the manual stipulated a 30 amp
fuse, go figure. Anyway, we started the 10 gauge wire in the inverter bay (which
is on the middle of the passenger side) with a 30 amp resettable breaker,
forward to the cage wall, then across to the driver's side, then back to come up
thru the chase between the kitchen and bathroom, then into the wall behind the
toilet to the drain outlet, and out to the back of the toilet. We put the switch
on the chase beside the toilet. Very clean. As usual, a very professional job by
a former Prevost tech now domiciled near San Antonio, Stagecoach RV Service. We
recommend him highly.
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> 2000 LXI
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> About to leave for MN
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[Ron Thompson]

Curt, You are right about the compressor running and drawing battery power while camping dry. My 12volt compressor does run a lot too. I think I might have a leak somewhere. I seem to remember that someone installed just a regular toilet like you would have in your home. That would be completely gravity flow with your coach fresh water pump providing the flow pressure. But wouldn't that use more water? I don't see that would be a good system. Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx. 1995 WLWB 42' (cockyfox@...) --- On Sun, 5/1/11, Curt Sprenger wrote: From: Curt Sprenger Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Bye bye Microphor! To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 10:53 AM I trashed our Microphor too....because...flushes used too much water (we dry camp some), parts are expensive, did not wish to have a future date compressor purchase, the compressor using 12v power while dry camping, wanted a less complex toilet, wanted a toilet that can be flushed without the compressor and the hopper set up leaving us stranded. Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" Anaheim Hills, CA curtsprenger@... On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Ron Thompson <cockyfox@...> wrote: I have a Microphor in my rig. I have had no trouble with it, at least so far. What is it about the Microphor that you didn't like. I am curious and wondering if it is something I should be on the lookout for. Thanks for your input. Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx. 1995 WLWB 42' (cockyfox@...) --- On Sun, 5/1/11, luckyron1 <luckyron1@...> wrote: From: luckyron1 <luckyron1@...> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Bye bye Microphor! To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 3:16 AM We wound up trashing the Microphor. Good riddance!! But the Vetus Macerator (WC12L2) installation was not easy. The nearest 12 vt wire was in the chase on the outside wall and too thin. It was only 14 gauge, so we couldn't use it because the toilet is wired with 12 gauge and the manual stipulated a 30 amp fuse, go figure. Anyway, we started the 10 gauge wire in the inverter bay (which is on the middle of the passenger side) with a 30 amp resettable breaker, forward to the cage wall, then across to the driver's side, then back to come up thru the chase between the kitchen and bathroom, then into the wall behind the toilet to the drain outlet, and out to the back of the toilet. We put the switch on the chase beside the toilet. Very clean. As usual, a very professional job by a former Prevost tech now domiciled near San Antonio, Stagecoach RV Service. We recommend him highly. 2000 LXI About to leave for MN

[Curt Sprenger]

I replaced the Microphor with the Dometic (Sealand) 510H Toilet Std Height w/Spray Bone 302951003. Also a riser to raise the toilet height (more comfortable). We flush using the hand spray most of the time...uses a lot less water, maybe 1/4 of what the Microphor used.


Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA
"curtsprenger@gmail.com"

On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Ron Thompson <"cockyfox@sbcglobal.net"> wrote:

 

Curt, You are right about the compressor running and drawing battery power while camping dry.  My 12volt compressor does run a lot too. I think I might have a leak somewhere. I seem to remember that someone installed just a regular toilet like you would have in your home. That would be completely gravity flow  with your coach fresh water pump providing the flow pressure.  But wouldn't that use more water?  I don't see that would be a good system. Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx. 1995 WLWB 42' ("cockyfox@sbcglobal.net") --- On Sun, 5/1/11, Curt Sprenger <"curtsprenger@gmail.com"> wrote: From: Curt Sprenger <"curtsprenger@gmail.com"> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Bye bye Microphor! To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 10:53 AM   I trashed our Microphor too....because...flushes used too much water (we dry camp some), parts are expensive, did not wish to have a future date compressor purchase, the compressor using 12v power while dry camping, wanted a less complex toilet, wanted a toilet that can be flushed without the compressor and the hopper set up leaving us stranded.     Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" Anaheim Hills, CA curtsprenger@... On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Ron Thompson <cockyfox@...> wrote:   I have a Microphor in my rig.  I have had no trouble with it, at least so far.  What is it about the Microphor that you didn't like.  I am curious and wondering if it is something I should be on the lookout for.  Thanks for your input. Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx. 1995 WLWB 42' (cockyfox@...) --- On Sun, 5/1/11, luckyron1 <luckyron1@...> wrote: From: luckyron1 <luckyron1@...> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Bye bye Microphor! To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 3:16 AM   We wound up trashing the Microphor. Good riddance!! But the Vetus Macerator (WC12L2) installation was not easy. The nearest 12 vt wire was in the chase on the outside wall and too thin. It was only 14 gauge, so we couldn't use it because the toilet is wired with 12 gauge and the manual stipulated a 30 amp fuse, go figure. Anyway, we started the 10 gauge wire in the inverter bay (which is on the middle of the passenger side) with a 30 amp resettable breaker, forward to the cage wall, then across to the driver's side, then back to come up thru the chase between the kitchen and bathroom, then into the wall behind the toilet to the drain outlet, and out to the back of the toilet. We put the switch on the chase beside the toilet. Very clean. As usual, a very professional job by a former Prevost tech now domiciled near San Antonio, Stagecoach RV Service. We recommend him highly. 2000 LXI About to leave for MN

[birdshill123]

Over the years we have changed out 4 thetfords for Sealands. IMHO it is the
best RV toilet on the market Flushes with about 1 pint! Not as attractive as
what would be in a Bird but very practical. Our SOB is a Dynasty and it has
Thetford Tecma. 12 volt flush , gorgeous and can even be had in Black. But I am
considering a Sealand as the Tecma uses about a gallon to flush!! It is a
macerator. Aren't the toilets in some birds away from the holding tank. If so a
Sealand would not work.

Bruce

88 FC35

[Wayne Kotila]

Ron, have you ever drained the water from the pressure tank on the toilette compressor? They should be drained occasionally and the flat tank pressure should be checked and added to if necessary, this will decrease the frequency that the compressor runs.

Wayne Kotila

96PT42

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From: Ron Thompson
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, May 1, 2011 11:14:46 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Bye bye Microphor!

Curt, You are right about the compressor running and drawing battery power while camping dry. My 12volt compressor does run a lot too. I think I might have a leak somewhere. I seem to remember that someone installed just a regular toilet like you would have in your home. That would be completely gravity flow with your coach fresh water pump providing the flow pressure. But wouldn't that use more water? I don't see that would be a good system. Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx. 1995 WLWB 42' (cockyfox@...) --- On Sun, 5/1/11, Curt Sprenger wrote: From: Curt Sprenger Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Bye bye Microphor! To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 10:53 AM I trashed our Microphor too....because...flushes used too much water (we dry camp some), parts are expensive, did not wish to have a future date compressor purchase, the compressor using 12v power while dry camping, wanted a less complex toilet, wanted a toilet that can be flushed without the compressor and the hopper set up leaving us stranded. Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" Anaheim Hills, CA curtsprenger@... On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Ron Thompson <cockyfox@...> wrote: I have a Microphor in my rig. I have had no trouble with it, at least so far. What is it about the Microphor that you didn't like. I am curious and wondering if it is something I should be on the lookout for. Thanks for your input. Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx. 1995 WLWB 42' (cockyfox@...) --- On Sun, 5/1/11, luckyron1 <luckyron1@...> wrote: From: luckyron1 <luckyron1@...> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Bye bye Microphor! To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 3:16 AM We wound up trashing the Microphor. Good riddance!! But the Vetus Macerator (WC12L2) installation was not easy. The nearest 12 vt wire was in the chase on the outside wall and too thin. It was only 14 gauge, so we couldn't use it because the toilet is wired with 12 gauge and the manual stipulated a 30 amp fuse, go figure. Anyway, we started the 10 gauge wire in the inverter bay (which is on the middle of the passenger side) with a 30 amp resettable breaker, forward to the cage wall, then across to the driver's side, then back to come up thru the chase between the kitchen and bathroom, then into the wall behind the toilet to the drain outlet, and out to the back of the toilet. We put the switch on the chase beside the toilet. Very clean. As usual, a very professional job by a former Prevost tech now domiciled near San Antonio, Stagecoach RV Service. We recommend him highly. 2000 LXI About to leave for MN

[luckyron1]

Wayne, thanks for replying. Yes, we were aware of and did do the regular
draining, as well as other suggested maintenance, and it was helpful from time
to time. However, in my opinion, in the long run, the Microphor just is not
designed for, and will not stand up to full-time usage. I'm almost ashamed to
admit it but, including replacement with the Vetus Macerator, since 2003, we
have put over 4,500.00 into waste disposal. I really hope that you have better
luck with yours.

2000 LXI enrout to MN


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Wayne Kotila wrote:
>
> Ron, have you ever drained the water from the pressure tank on the toilette
> compressor? They should be drained occasionally and the flat tank pressure
> should be checked and added to if necessary, this will decrease the frequency
> that the compressor runs.
>
> Wayne Kotila
> 96PT42
>
>
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>
> ________________________________
> From: Ron Thompson
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, May 1, 2011 11:14:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Bye bye Microphor!
>
> Â
> Curt,
>
> You are right about the compressor running and drawing battery power while
> camping dry. My 12volt compressor does run a lot too. I think I might have a
> leak somewhere.
>
> I seem to remember that someone installed just a regular toilet like you would
> have in your home. That would be completely gravity flow with your coach
fresh
> water pump providing the flow pressure. But wouldn't that use more water?Â
I
> don't see that would be a good system.
>
>
> Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
> 1995 WLWB 42'
> (cockyfox@...)
>
> --- On Sun, 5/1/11, Curt Sprenger wrote:
>
>
> >From: Curt Sprenger
> >Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Bye bye Microphor!
> >To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 10:53 AM
> >
> >
> >Â
> >I trashed our Microphor too....because...flushes used too much water (we dry
> >camp some), parts are expensive, did not wish to have a future date
compressor
> >purchase, the compressor using 12v power while dry camping, wanted a less
> >complex toilet, wanted a toilet that can be flushed without the compressor
and
> >the hopper set up leaving us stranded.
> >
> >Â Â
> >Curt Sprenger
> >1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> >Anaheim Hills, CA
> >curtsprenger@...
> >
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> >
> >On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Ron Thompson wrote:
> >
> >Â
> >>I have a Microphor in my rig. I have had no trouble with it, at least so
far.Â
> >>What is it about the Microphor that you didn't like. I am curious and
wondering
> >>if it is something I should be on the lookout for. Thanks for your input.
> >>
> >>
> >>Ron Thompson -Waller, Tx.
> >>1995 WLWB 42'
> >>(cockyfox@...)
> >>
> >>--- On Sun, 5/1/11, luckyron1 wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: luckyron1
> >>>Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Bye bye Microphor!
> >>>To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >>>Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 3:16 AM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Â
> >>>We wound up trashing the Microphor. Good riddance!! But the Vetus Macerator
> >>>(WC12L2) installation was not easy. The nearest 12 vt wire was in the chase
on
> >>>the outside wall and too thin. It was only 14 gauge, so we couldn't use it
> >>>because the toilet is wired with 12 gauge and the manual stipulated a 30
amp
> >>>fuse, go figure. Anyway, we started the 10 gauge wire in the inverter bay
(which
> >>>is on the middle of the passenger side) with a 30 amp resettable breaker,
> >>>forward to the cage wall, then across to the driver's side, then back to
come up
> >>>thru the chase between the kitchen and bathroom, then into the wall behind
the
> >>>toilet to the drain outlet, and out to the back of the toilet. We put the
switch
> >>>on the chase beside the toilet. Very clean. As usual, a very professional
job by
> >>>a former Prevost tech now domiciled near San Antonio, Stagecoach RV
Service. We
> >>>recommend him highly.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>2000 LXI
> >>>About to leave for MN
> >>>
> >>>
> >
>