Drop down driving lights on 89 SP 36'

[DonS]

I have two problems with my drop down driving lights under the front bumper. The
left light wouldn't com on & I traced it to a bad bad switch that the back of
the light presses against when down. It is a Cherry with no other numbers on it.
Anyone know of a source of these. It has 3 wires on it one hot going to the
switch one hot to light when the light is down & pressing the button on switch
& one that is hot when light is retracted. But it is not used. The other
problem is the driving light switch on the side panel under the shift buttons on
the left. It seem to have lost its ground & will not unless drop the lights
unless I run an other ground to it. Any guesses where that would be grounded?
thank Don
Don Spithaler
89 SP 36'
Butler, PA

[Fred Hulse]

Hi Don

It seems to me the ground should be to the relay.

Fred & Jeanne Hulse
Morristown,Arizona
1997 Wanderlodge WB41

[Fred Hulse]

That switch should be a push button momentary switch,any good parts store

Fred & Jeanne Hulse
Morristown,Arizona
1997 Wanderlodge WB41

[Don Bradner]

The drop down lights on mine were one of the few things I ever gave up on - in
my case they would tend to "bounce" deployed/stowed on their own. Eventually I
just removed the wire that activates the air solenoid.

I did find, however, that the wiring was less than simple, and included at least
one diode that appeared to have failed. I think that was on a ground wire, and
essentially made it open.

Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
My location: http://www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1

On 9/1/2011 at 12:21 AM DonS wrote:

>I have two problems with my drop down driving lights under the front
>bumper. The left light wouldn't com on & I traced it to a bad bad switch
>that the back of the light presses against when down. It is a Cherry with
>no other numbers on it. Anyone know of a source of these. It has 3 wires
>on it one hot going to the switch one hot to light when the light is down
>& pressing the button on switch & one that is hot when light is retracted.
>But it is not used. The other problem is the driving light switch on the
>side panel under the shift buttons on the left. It seem to have lost its
>ground & will not unless drop the lights unless I run an other ground to
>it. Any guesses where that would be grounded? thank Don
>Don Spithaler
>89 SP 36'
>Butler, PA
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[Donald Spithaler]

I checked a NAPA & Auto Zone today with no luck The guy at NAPA told me a place where I can look tomorrow. The wiring is hard to check without a complete set of drawings, I know I could do without the lights. I don't do much night driving anyways.

Don Spithaler
89 SP 36'
Butrler, PA                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            the wire that activates the air solenoid.

I did find, however, that the wiring was less than simple, and included at least one diode that appeared to have failed. I think that was on a ground wire, and essentially made it open.



Don Bradner

90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"

My location: www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1

On 9/1/2011 at 12:21 AM DonS wrote:



>I have two problems with my drop down driving lights under the front

>bumper. The left light wouldn't com on & I traced it to a bad bad switch

>that the back of the light presses against when down. It is a Cherry with

>no other numbers on it. Anyone know of a source of these. It has 3 wires

>on it one hot going to the switch one hot to light when the light is down

>& pressing the button on switch & one that is hot when light is retracted.

>But it is not used. The other problem is the driving light switch on the

>side panel under the shift buttons on the left. It seem to have lost its

>ground & will not unless drop the lights unless I run an other ground to

>it. Any guesses where that would be grounded? thank Don

>Don Spithaler

>89 SP 36'

>Butler, PA

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[Ralph L. Fullenwider]

Don, you can find the cherry or Littlefield switches at Fry's or Allied
Electronics or many of the on line Electronic stores.

Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
"84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
Duncan, Oklahoma

At 10:57 PM 8/31/2011 -0400, you wrote:


>I checked a NAPA & Auto Zone today with no luck The guy at NAPA told me a
>place where I can look tomorrow. The wiring is hard to check without a
>complete set of drawings, I know I could do without the lights. I don't do
>much night driving anyways.
>Don Spithaler
>89 SP 36'
>Butrler,
>PA
>the wire that activates the air solenoid.
>
>I did find, however, that the wiring was less than simple, and included at
>least one diode that appeared to have failed. I think that was on a ground
>wire, and essentially made it open.
>
>Don Bradner
>90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
>My location:
><http://www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1>http://www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1
>
>
>
>On 9/1/2011 at 12:21 AM DonS wrote:
>
> >I have two problems with my drop down driving lights under the front
> >bumper. The left light wouldn't com on & I traced it to a bad bad switch
> >that the back of the light presses against when down. It is a Cherry with
> >no other numbers on it. Anyone know of a source of these. It has 3 wires
> >on it one hot going to the switch one hot to light when the light is down
> >& pressing the button on switch & one that is hot when light is retracted.
> >But it is not used. The other problem is the driving light switch on the
> >side panel under the shift buttons on the left. It seem to have lost its
> >ground & will not unless drop the lights unless I run an other ground to
> >it. Any guesses where that would be grounded? thank Don
> >Don Spithaler
> >89 SP 36'
> >Butler, PA
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>

[Donald Spithaler]

Ralph     Do you know where the ground would connected to a ground block?  When I ground the switch for the drop down lights it seems to work. The green led light at the switch light when the lights come down & goes out when the lights close. Everything seem to work when it a ground wire attached. I'll look at Littlefield.    Thank Don

Don Spithaler
89 SP 36'
Butler, PA   

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Ralph L. Fullenwider <"rlf47@swbell.net"> wrote:

 

Don, you can find the cherry or Littlefield switches at Fry's or Allied

Electronics or many of the on line Electronic stores.



Safe travels,



Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider

"84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"

Duncan, Oklahoma

At 10:57 PM 8/31/2011 -0400, you wrote:



>I checked a NAPA & Auto Zone today with no luck The guy at NAPA told me a

>place where I can look tomorrow. The wiring is hard to check without a

>complete set of drawings, I know I could do without the lights. I don't do

>much night driving anyways.

>Don Spithaler

>89 SP 36'

>Butrler,

>PA

>the wire that activates the air solenoid.

>

>I did find, however, that the wiring was less than simple, and included at

>least one diode that appeared to have failed. I think that was on a ground

>wire, and essentially made it open.

>

>Don Bradner

>90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"

>My location:

><http://www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1>www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1

>

>

>

>On 9/1/2011 at 12:21 AM DonS wrote:

>

> >I have two problems with my drop down driving lights under the front

> >bumper. The left light wouldn't com on & I traced it to a bad bad switch

> >that the back of the light presses against when down. It is a Cherry with

> >no other numbers on it. Anyone know of a source of these. It has 3 wires

> >on it one hot going to the switch one hot to light when the light is down

> >& pressing the button on switch & one that is hot when light is retracted.

> >But it is not used. The other problem is the driving light switch on the

> >side panel under the shift buttons on the left. It seem to have lost its

> >ground & will not unless drop the lights unless I run an other ground to

> >it. Any guesses where that would be grounded? thank Don

> >Don Spithaler

> >89 SP 36'

> >Butler, PA

> >

> >

> >

> >------------------------------------

> >

> >Yahoo! Groups Links

>

[Ralph L. Fullenwider]

Don, two possibilities and one is a butt splice to a buss ground or
screwed to a chassis ground. If your lights are working when you add the
ground, personally I would ground it to the chassis with a screw, do a
check out and go to the next project.

Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
"84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
Duncan, Oklahoma

At 02:52 PM 9/1/2011 -0400, you wrote:


>Ralph Do you know where the ground would connected to a ground
>block? When I ground the switch for the drop down lights it seems to
>work. The green led light at the switch light when the lights come down &
>goes out when the lights close. Everything seem to work when it a ground
>wire attached. I'll look at Littlefield. Thank Don
>Don Spithaler
>89 SP 36'
>Butler, PA
>
>On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Ralph L. Fullenwider
><rlf47@...> wrote:
>
>
>Don, you can find the cherry or Littlefield switches at Fry's or Allied
>Electronics or many of the on line Electronic stores.
>
>Safe travels,
>
>Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
>"84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
>Duncan, Oklahoma
>
>

[Don Bradner]

One obvious thing that wasn't mentioned: I don't think the lights are supposed
to go down unless they would also be on, so the ground probably completes only
when all other condtions are met. Those conditions are lights on, high-beams on,
driving light switch on. Is that how you are testing?

Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
My location: http://www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1

On 9/1/2011 at 2:52 PM Donald Spithaler wrote:

>Ralph Do you know where the ground would connected to a ground block?
>When I ground the switch for the drop down lights it seems to work. The
>green led light at the switch light when the lights come down & goes out
>when the lights close. Everything seem to work when it a ground wire
>attached. I'll look at Littlefield. Thank Don
>Don Spithaler
>89 SP 36'
>Butler, PA
>
>On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Ralph L. Fullenwider
>wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Don, you can find the cherry or Littlefield switches at Fry's or Allied
>> Electronics or many of the on line Electronic stores.
>>
>> Safe travels,
>>
>> Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
>> "84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
>> Duncan, Oklahoma
>>
>>
>> At 10:57 PM 8/31/2011 -0400, you wrote:
>>
>> >I checked a NAPA & Auto Zone today with no luck The guy at NAPA told me
>a
>> >place where I can look tomorrow. The wiring is hard to check without a
>> >complete set of drawings, I know I could do without the lights. I don't
>do
>>
>> >much night driving anyways.
>> >Don Spithaler
>> >89 SP 36'
>> >Butrler,
>> >PA
>> >the wire that activates the air solenoid.
>> >
>> >I did find, however, that the wiring was less than simple, and included
>at
>>
>> >least one diode that appeared to have failed. I think that was on a
>ground
>>
>> >wire, and essentially made it open.
>> >
>> >Don Bradner
>> >90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
>> >My location:
>> ><http://www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1>
>> http://www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On 9/1/2011 at 12:21 AM DonS wrote:
>> >
>> > >I have two problems with my drop down driving lights under the front
>> > >bumper. The left light wouldn't com on & I traced it to a bad bad
>switch
>> > >that the back of the light presses against when down. It is a Cherry
>> with
>> > >no other numbers on it. Anyone know of a source of these. It has 3
>wires
>> > >on it one hot going to the switch one hot to light when the light is
>> down
>> > >& pressing the button on switch & one that is hot when light is
>> retracted.
>> > >But it is not used. The other problem is the driving light switch on
>the
>> > >side panel under the shift buttons on the left. It seem to have lost
>its
>> > >ground & will not unless drop the lights unless I run an other ground
>to
>> > >it. Any guesses where that would be grounded? thank Don
>> > >Don Spithaler
>> > >89 SP 36'
>> > >Butler, PA
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >------------------------------------
>> > >
>> > >Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>>
>>
>>

[D E BARNES]

Don, does this mean that when I meet an oncoming vehicle and dim my lights,
that my driving light switch off and retract? I've never used them, but it
would be interesting to know these things.

Donn


On 9/1/11 3:09 PM, "Don Bradner" wrote:

> One obvious thing that wasn't mentioned: I don't think the lights are supposed
> to go down unless they would also be on, so the ground probably completes only
> when all other condtions are met. Those conditions are lights on, high-beams
> on, driving light switch on. Is that how you are testing?
>
> Don Bradner
> 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
> My location: http://www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1
>
> On 9/1/2011 at 2:52 PM Donald Spithaler wrote:
>
>> Ralph Do you know where the ground would connected to a ground block?
>> When I ground the switch for the drop down lights it seems to work. The
>> green led light at the switch light when the lights come down & goes out
>> when the lights close. Everything seem to work when it a ground wire
>> attached. I'll look at Littlefield. Thank Don
>> Don Spithaler
>> 89 SP 36'
>> Butler, PA
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Ralph L. Fullenwider
>> wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>>
>>>
>>> Don, you can find the cherry or Littlefield switches at Fry's or Allied
>>> Electronics or many of the on line Electronic stores.
>>>
>>> Safe travels,
>>>
>>> Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
>>> "84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
>>> Duncan, Oklahoma
>>>
>>>
>>> At 10:57 PM 8/31/2011 -0400, you wrote:
>>>
>>>> I checked a NAPA & Auto Zone today with no luck The guy at NAPA told me
>> a
>>>> place where I can look tomorrow. The wiring is hard to check without a
>>>> complete set of drawings, I know I could do without the lights. I don't
>> do
>>>
>>>> much night driving anyways.
>>>> Don Spithaler
>>>> 89 SP 36'
>>>> Butrler,
>>>> PA
>>>> the wire that activates the air solenoid.
>>>>
>>>> I did find, however, that the wiring was less than simple, and included
>> at
>>>
>>>> least one diode that appeared to have failed. I think that was on a
>> ground
>>>
>>>> wire, and essentially made it open.
>>>>
>>>> Don Bradner
>>>> 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
>>>> My location:
>>>> <http://www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1>
>>> http://www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/1/2011 at 12:21 AM DonS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have two problems with my drop down driving lights under the front
>>>>> bumper. The left light wouldn't com on & I traced it to a bad bad
>> switch
>>>>> that the back of the light presses against when down. It is a Cherry
>>> with
>>>>> no other numbers on it. Anyone know of a source of these. It has 3
>> wires
>>>>> on it one hot going to the switch one hot to light when the light is
>>> down
>>>>> & pressing the button on switch & one that is hot when light is
>>> retracted.
>>>>> But it is not used. The other problem is the driving light switch on
>> the
>>>>> side panel under the shift buttons on the left. It seem to have lost
>> its
>>>>> ground & will not unless drop the lights unless I run an other ground
>> to
>>>>> it. Any guesses where that would be grounded? thank Don
>>>>> Don Spithaler
>>>>> 89 SP 36'
>>>>> Butler, PA
>>>>>
>>>>>
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