Performance of a PT36 vs a PT38

[buddyballs79]

Hello and thanks in advance for the replies.


We're looking at two coaches right now, one is an 89 PT 36 with the 6V
330 Detroit and the other is an 87 PT38 with the 8V 475hp Detroit.
Both are the silver editions. The PT 36 has 135k and the PT 38 has
100k. Since they are both a considerable distance away we were
wondering if anybody has had any experience with these coaches. How is
the performance of the 36 with the 6V Detroit vs the 38 with the 8V?
Any pros or cons for one or the other? It will be our first diesel
motorhome and we love the look of the older Bluebirds. Our budget is
$50k to $75k max.

Thanks again for the help.

[ronmarabito2002]

I've run coaches with both. I would not consider the 6V92 again. On
a small coach, it might be fine, but between the two coaches, there is
not a lot of weight difference, thus go with the 8V92 for performance.
You won't be sorry, unless other considerations are more important.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
Forum Moderator


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "buddyballs79"
wrote:
>
> Hello and thanks in advance for the replies.
>
>
> We're looking at two coaches right now, one is an 89 PT 36 with the 6V
> 330 Detroit and the other is an 87 PT38 with the 8V 475hp Detroit.
> Both are the silver editions. The PT 36 has 135k and the PT 38 has
> 100k. Since they are both a considerable distance away we were
> wondering if anybody has had any experience with these coaches. How is
> the performance of the 36 with the 6V Detroit vs the 38 with the 8V?
> Any pros or cons for one or the other? It will be our first diesel
> motorhome and we love the look of the older Bluebirds. Our budget is
> $50k to $75k max.
>
> Thanks again for the help.
>

[Scott Peatross]

Performance in a nutshell, the PT38 is only 10 percent heavier with almost 50
percent more horsepower. The PT36 gets a 5 speed vs. a 4 speed in the PT38,
which helps a little. Level crusing it won't matter much, but passing or
climbing hills it is no contest, the PT36 doesn' t have a chance. I feel my PT40
with the 8V92 has good performance, so although the PT36 is slower, you might
still find it acceptable. Depends on whether you are in a hurry.

Other than power, the real downside to the PT36 is storage. It may have the
least storage of any Wanderlodge. Could be a real challange to store all your
stuff if you are full-timing it. Not so important if you are just out for long
weekends.

I have been seriously considering a PT36 myself, my PT40 just won't fit in the
space I have for the garage I want to build. So it's big coach no garage, or
little coach in a garage. I really want that garage, but like you, with the PT36
I'm worried that I'll regret having that little 6V92 and miss the storage.

Well that kind of leads me to if you're in southern CA, you're welcome to
check out my PT40, I supose it's for sale.

Scott Peatross
'87PT40
Stevenson Ranch, CA


buddyballs79 wrote:
Hello and thanks in advance for the replies.


We're looking at two coaches right now, one is an 89 PT 36 with the 6V
330 Detroit and the other is an 87 PT38 with the 8V 475hp Detroit.
Both are the silver editions. The PT 36 has 135k and the PT 38 has
100k. Since they are both a considerable distance away we were
wondering if anybody has had any experience with these coaches. How is
the performance of the 36 with the 6V Detroit vs the 38 with the 8V?
Any pros or cons for one or the other? It will be our first diesel
motorhome and we love the look of the older Bluebirds. Our budget is
$50k to $75k max.

Thanks again for the help.








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[Tom Warner]

Ron there might be other considerations but then maybe you considered
them and/or had information that I did not see. For instance,
unless I absolutely knew what the maintenance history of both coaches
were and the price that will be finally paid for each including taxes
and registration fees if there are some ( realizing they had a max
budget of $50-75K) that would leave somewhere in the range of
$60,000 not including taxes.

I would go with the coach that fit in that budget IF I knew :

1. The tires were all servicable and had a DOT date of less then 5
years and had some assurance that they had not been abused by running
over/or under inflated or run over curbs. .

2. You had service records for the coach to ensure it was regularly
maintained and not sit for long periods of time.

3. You consider the fuel mileage. The PT36 with a 6V92 will get
better mileage then the PT38 with a 8V92. Either one I would have
inspected by a reputable mechanice to make sure there are no problems
with the engines.

4. And lastly use the Vintage birds checklist and go over every
single item in the coach. That checklist could very well help you get
a lower price then the owner is willing to go to knowing that there
are no problems. If everything checks out however you will feel
better about the price you do have to pay.

Good luck in which ever one you buy.

Tom Warner
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY


At 06:03 PM 2/2/2006, you wrote:
>I've run coaches with both. I would not consider the 6V92 again. On
>a small coach, it might be fine, but between the two coaches, there is
>not a lot of weight difference, thus go with the 8V92 for performance.
>You won't be sorry, unless other considerations are more important.
>
>R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
>Forum Moderator
>
>
>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "buddyballs79"
>wrote:
> >
> > Hello and thanks in advance for the replies.
> >
> >
> > We're looking at two coaches right now, one is an 89 PT 36 with the 6V
> > 330 Detroit and the other is an 87 PT38 with the 8V 475hp Detroit.
> > Both are the silver editions. The PT 36 has 135k and the PT 38 has
> > 100k. Since they are both a considerable distance away we were
> > wondering if anybody has had any experience with these coaches. How is
> > the performance of the 36 with the 6V Detroit vs the 38 with the 8V?
> > Any pros or cons for one or the other? It will be our first diesel
> > motorhome and we love the look of the older Bluebirds. Our budget is
> > $50k to $75k max.
> >
> > Thanks again for the help.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[Andy Coleman]

Hello Tom,

You mentioned fuel economy differences between the PT36 and PT38.

I might soon be in the market for a 70's to 80's Wanderlodge.
However, the motor choices are confusing! The FC35 with a Cat Turbo
3208, the PT36 with a Detroit 6V92, and a PT38 with an Detroit 8V92
are all similar sized coaches. Performance (225 HP to 475 HP) is
obviously very different.

With the high price of fuel these days, do any of these motors stand
out in fuel economy? If they are all similar, I guess the more
powerful 8V92 is the way to go!

Anybody know?

I'm so happy that I found this group!

Andy Coleman



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner wrote:
>
> Ron there might be other considerations but then maybe you considered
> them and/or had information that I did not see. For instance,
> unless I absolutely knew what the maintenance history of both coaches
> were and the price that will be finally paid for each including taxes
> and registration fees if there are some ( realizing they had a max
> budget of $50-75K) that would leave somewhere in the range of
> $60,000 not including taxes.
>
> I would go with the coach that fit in that budget IF I knew :
>
> 1. The tires were all servicable and had a DOT date of less then 5
> years and had some assurance that they had not been abused by running
> over/or under inflated or run over curbs. .
>
> 2. You had service records for the coach to ensure it was regularly
> maintained and not sit for long periods of time.
>
> 3. You consider the fuel mileage. The PT36 with a 6V92 will get
> better mileage then the PT38 with a 8V92. Either one I would have
> inspected by a reputable mechanice to make sure there are no problems
> with the engines.
>
> 4. And lastly use the Vintage birds checklist and go over every
> single item in the coach. That checklist could very well help you get
> a lower price then the owner is willing to go to knowing that there
> are no problems. If everything checks out however you will feel
> better about the price you do have to pay.
>
> Good luck in which ever one you buy.
>
> Tom Warner
> 1982 FC35
> Vernon Center,NY
>
>
> At 06:03 PM 2/2/2006, you wrote:
> >I've run coaches with both. I would not consider the 6V92 again. On
> >a small coach, it might be fine, but between the two coaches, there is
> >not a lot of weight difference, thus go with the 8V92 for performance.
> >You won't be sorry, unless other considerations are more important.
> >
> >R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> >Forum Moderator
> >
> >
> >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "buddyballs79"
> >wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello and thanks in advance for the replies.
> > >
> > >
> > > We're looking at two coaches right now, one is an 89 PT 36 with
the 6V
> > > 330 Detroit and the other is an 87 PT38 with the 8V 475hp Detroit.
> > > Both are the silver editions. The PT 36 has 135k and the PT 38 has
> > > 100k. Since they are both a considerable distance away we were
> > > wondering if anybody has had any experience with these coaches.
How is
> > > the performance of the 36 with the 6V Detroit vs the 38 with the 8V?
> > > Any pros or cons for one or the other? It will be our first diesel
> > > motorhome and we love the look of the older Bluebirds. Our
budget is
> > > $50k to $75k max.
> > >
> > > Thanks again for the help.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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[ronmarabito2002]

Tom: You won't save a dime in fuel economy with the 6V92 over the
8V92. As a matter of fact, my 8V electgronic is more economical than
my previous 6V mechanical. As long as you drive in flat country, it
probably doesn't make any difference.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner wrote:
>
> Ron there might be other considerations but then maybe you considered
> them and/or had information that I did not see. For instance,
> unless I absolutely knew what the maintenance history of both coaches
> were and the price that will be finally paid for each including taxes
> and registration fees if there are some ( realizing they had a max
> budget of $50-75K) that would leave somewhere in the range of
> $60,000 not including taxes.
>
> I would go with the coach that fit in that budget IF I knew :
>
> 1. The tires were all servicable and had a DOT date of less then 5
> years and had some assurance that they had not been abused by running
> over/or under inflated or run over curbs. .
>
> 2. You had service records for the coach to ensure it was regularly
> maintained and not sit for long periods of time.
>
> 3. You consider the fuel mileage. The PT36 with a 6V92 will get
> better mileage then the PT38 with a 8V92. Either one I would have
> inspected by a reputable mechanice to make sure there are no problems
> with the engines.
>
> 4. And lastly use the Vintage birds checklist and go over every
> single item in the coach. That checklist could very well help you get
> a lower price then the owner is willing to go to knowing that there
> are no problems. If everything checks out however you will feel
> better about the price you do have to pay.
>
> Good luck in which ever one you buy.
>
> Tom Warner
> 1982 FC35
> Vernon Center,NY
>
>
> At 06:03 PM 2/2/2006, you wrote:
> >I've run coaches with both. I would not consider the 6V92 again. On
> >a small coach, it might be fine, but between the two coaches, there is
> >not a lot of weight difference, thus go with the 8V92 for performance.
> >You won't be sorry, unless other considerations are more important.
> >
> >R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> >Forum Moderator
> >
> >
> >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "buddyballs79"
> >wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello and thanks in advance for the replies.
> > >
> > >
> > > We're looking at two coaches right now, one is an 89 PT 36 with
the 6V
> > > 330 Detroit and the other is an 87 PT38 with the 8V 475hp Detroit.
> > > Both are the silver editions. The PT 36 has 135k and the PT 38 has
> > > 100k. Since they are both a considerable distance away we were
> > > wondering if anybody has had any experience with these coaches.
How is
> > > the performance of the 36 with the 6V Detroit vs the 38 with the 8V?
> > > Any pros or cons for one or the other? It will be our first diesel
> > > motorhome and we love the look of the older Bluebirds. Our
budget is
> > > $50k to $75k max.
> > >
> > > Thanks again for the help.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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[ronmarabito2002]

The FC Cat Turbo 3208 is more economical.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Coleman"
wrote:
>
> Hello Tom,
>
> You mentioned fuel economy differences between the PT36 and PT38.
>
> I might soon be in the market for a 70's to 80's Wanderlodge.
> However, the motor choices are confusing! The FC35 with a Cat Turbo
> 3208, the PT36 with a Detroit 6V92, and a PT38 with an Detroit 8V92
> are all similar sized coaches. Performance (225 HP to 475 HP) is
> obviously very different.
>
> With the high price of fuel these days, do any of these motors stand
> out in fuel economy? If they are all similar, I guess the more
> powerful 8V92 is the way to go!
>
> Anybody know?
>
> I'm so happy that I found this group!
>
> Andy Coleman
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner wrote:
> >
> > Ron there might be other considerations but then maybe you considered
> > them and/or had information that I did not see. For instance,
> > unless I absolutely knew what the maintenance history of both coaches
> > were and the price that will be finally paid for each including taxes
> > and registration fees if there are some ( realizing they had a max
> > budget of $50-75K) that would leave somewhere in the range of
> > $60,000 not including taxes.
> >
> > I would go with the coach that fit in that budget IF I knew :
> >
> > 1. The tires were all servicable and had a DOT date of less then 5
> > years and had some assurance that they had not been abused by running
> > over/or under inflated or run over curbs. .
> >
> > 2. You had service records for the coach to ensure it was regularly
> > maintained and not sit for long periods of time.
> >
> > 3. You consider the fuel mileage. The PT36 with a 6V92 will get
> > better mileage then the PT38 with a 8V92. Either one I would have
> > inspected by a reputable mechanice to make sure there are no problems
> > with the engines.
> >
> > 4. And lastly use the Vintage birds checklist and go over every
> > single item in the coach. That checklist could very well help you get
> > a lower price then the owner is willing to go to knowing that there
> > are no problems. If everything checks out however you will feel
> > better about the price you do have to pay.
> >
> > Good luck in which ever one you buy.
> >
> > Tom Warner
> > 1982 FC35
> > Vernon Center,NY
> >
> >
> > At 06:03 PM 2/2/2006, you wrote:
> > >I've run coaches with both. I would not consider the 6V92 again. On
> > >a small coach, it might be fine, but between the two coaches,
there is
> > >not a lot of weight difference, thus go with the 8V92 for
performance.
> > >You won't be sorry, unless other considerations are more important.
> > >
> > >R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> > >Forum Moderator
> > >
> > >
> > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "buddyballs79"
> > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello and thanks in advance for the replies.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We're looking at two coaches right now, one is an 89 PT 36 with
> the 6V
> > > > 330 Detroit and the other is an 87 PT38 with the 8V 475hp Detroit.
> > > > Both are the silver editions. The PT 36 has 135k and the PT
38 has
> > > > 100k. Since they are both a considerable distance away we were
> > > > wondering if anybody has had any experience with these coaches.
> How is
> > > > the performance of the 36 with the 6V Detroit vs the 38 with
the 8V?
> > > > Any pros or cons for one or the other? It will be our first
diesel
> > > > motorhome and we love the look of the older Bluebirds. Our
> budget is
> > > > $50k to $75k max.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again for the help.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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[mbulriss]

Ron,

Not that anyone buys these things based on fuel economy, but I am
having a hard time believing you got the same mileage with the 6V as
the 8V. I know in my case I generally got 6-8mpg with the 83 PT40,
depending on how tight the nut behind the wheel was wound, and after
two fill-ups with the 91 WB40 I have gotten 4.6 and 4.7 .... NOT
impressed! Both of them are 40s, both had 5 spd tranny, 91 is
heavier, but..... definitely not the same in miles per gallons.

Mike Bulriss
1983 PT40 "Stagecoach" - Going to a new home on Sunday!!
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" - Now I can have time to work on this one!
San Antonio, TX




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002"
wrote:
>
> Tom: You won't save a dime in fuel economy with the 6V92 over the
> 8V92. As a matter of fact, my 8V electgronic is more economical than
> my previous 6V mechanical. As long as you drive in flat country, it
> probably doesn't make any difference.
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner wrote:
> >
> > Ron there might be other considerations but then maybe you considered
> > them and/or had information that I did not see. For instance,
> > unless I absolutely knew what the maintenance history of both coaches
> > were and the price that will be finally paid for each including taxes
> > and registration fees if there are some ( realizing they had a max
> > budget of $50-75K) that would leave somewhere in the range of
> > $60,000 not including taxes.
> >
> > I would go with the coach that fit in that budget IF I knew :
> >
> > 1. The tires were all servicable and had a DOT date of less then 5
> > years and had some assurance that they had not been abused by running
> > over/or under inflated or run over curbs. .
> >
> > 2. You had service records for the coach to ensure it was regularly
> > maintained and not sit for long periods of time.
> >
> > 3. You consider the fuel mileage. The PT36 with a 6V92 will get
> > better mileage then the PT38 with a 8V92. Either one I would have
> > inspected by a reputable mechanice to make sure there are no problems
> > with the engines.
> >
> > 4. And lastly use the Vintage birds checklist and go over every
> > single item in the coach. That checklist could very well help you get
> > a lower price then the owner is willing to go to knowing that there
> > are no problems. If everything checks out however you will feel
> > better about the price you do have to pay.
> >
> > Good luck in which ever one you buy.
> >
> > Tom Warner
> > 1982 FC35
> > Vernon Center,NY
> >
> >
> > At 06:03 PM 2/2/2006, you wrote:
> > >I've run coaches with both. I would not consider the 6V92 again. On
> > >a small coach, it might be fine, but between the two coaches,
there is
> > >not a lot of weight difference, thus go with the 8V92 for
performance.
> > >You won't be sorry, unless other considerations are more important.
> > >
> > >R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> > >Forum Moderator
> > >
> > >
> > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "buddyballs79"
> > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello and thanks in advance for the replies.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We're looking at two coaches right now, one is an 89 PT 36 with
> the 6V
> > > > 330 Detroit and the other is an 87 PT38 with the 8V 475hp Detroit.
> > > > Both are the silver editions. The PT 36 has 135k and the PT
38 has
> > > > 100k. Since they are both a considerable distance away we were
> > > > wondering if anybody has had any experience with these coaches.
> How is
> > > > the performance of the 36 with the 6V Detroit vs the 38 with
the 8V?
> > > > Any pros or cons for one or the other? It will be our first
diesel
> > > > motorhome and we love the look of the older Bluebirds. Our
> budget is
> > > > $50k to $75k max.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again for the help.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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[Tom Warner]

Everyone might find this interesting even though it is comparing
diesel marine versions of these engines.
http://www.frybrid.com/forum/showthread.php?t=399

Tom Warner
1982 FC35
Vernon center,NY
At 08:18 PM 2/2/2006, you wrote:
>Hello Tom,
>
>You mentioned fuel economy differences between the PT36 and PT38.
>
>I might soon be in the market for a 70's to 80's Wanderlodge.
>However, the motor choices are confusing! The FC35 with a Cat Turbo
>3208, the PT36 with a Detroit 6V92, and a PT38 with an Detroit 8V92
>are all similar sized coaches. Performance (225 HP to 475 HP) is
>obviously very different.
>
>With the high price of fuel these days, do any of these motors stand
>out in fuel economy? If they are all similar, I guess the more
>powerful 8V92 is the way to go!
>
>Anybody know?
>
>I'm so happy that I found this group!
>
>Andy Coleman
>
>
>
>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner wrote:
> >
> > Ron there might be other considerations but then maybe you considered
> > them and/or had information that I did not see. For instance,
> > unless I absolutely knew what the maintenance history of both coaches
> > were and the price that will be finally paid for each including taxes
> > and registration fees if there are some ( realizing they had a max
> > budget of $50-75K) that would leave somewhere in the range of
> > $60,000 not including taxes.
> >
> > I would go with the coach that fit in that budget IF I knew :
> >
> > 1. The tires were all servicable and had a DOT date of less then 5
> > years and had some assurance that they had not been abused by running
> > over/or under inflated or run over curbs. .
> >
> > 2. You had service records for the coach to ensure it was regularly
> > maintained and not sit for long periods of time.
> >
> > 3. You consider the fuel mileage. The PT36 with a 6V92 will get
> > better mileage then the PT38 with a 8V92. Either one I would have
> > inspected by a reputable mechanice to make sure there are no problems
> > with the engines.
> >
> > 4. And lastly use the Vintage birds checklist and go over every
> > single item in the coach. That checklist could very well help you get
> > a lower price then the owner is willing to go to knowing that there
> > are no problems. If everything checks out however you will feel
> > better about the price you do have to pay.
> >
> > Good luck in which ever one you buy.
> >
> > Tom Warner
> > 1982 FC35
> > Vernon Center,NY
> >
> >
> > At 06:03 PM 2/2/2006, you wrote:
> > >I've run coaches with both. I would not consider the 6V92 again. On
> > >a small coach, it might be fine, but between the two coaches, there is
> > >not a lot of weight difference, thus go with the 8V92 for performance.
> > >You won't be sorry, unless other considerations are more important.
> > >
> > >R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
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> > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "buddyballs79"
> > >wrote:
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> > > > Hello and thanks in advance for the replies.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We're looking at two coaches right now, one is an 89 PT 36 with
>the 6V
> > > > 330 Detroit and the other is an 87 PT38 with the 8V 475hp Detroit.
> > > > Both are the silver editions. The PT 36 has 135k and the PT 38 has
> > > > 100k. Since they are both a considerable distance away we were
> > > > wondering if anybody has had any experience with these coaches.
>How is
> > > > the performance of the 36 with the 6V Detroit vs the 38 with the 8V?
> > > > Any pros or cons for one or the other? It will be our first diesel
> > > > motorhome and we love the look of the older Bluebirds. Our
>budget is
> > > > $50k to $75k max.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again for the help.
> > > >
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The '91 is taller, wider, and heavier, and although it is a bit of a
SWAG I'm betting that the more square corners increase the Cg/drag.
All of this might be contributing to your increased fuel burn.

With the 8V over the 6V in the same coach you should be able to pull
a taller final-drive and keep the engine higher in the BSFE
curve, ... provided you aren't using that extra power in the hills or
driving faster.

- Jeff Miller
in Holland, MI


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...>
wrote:
>
> Ron,
>
> Not that anyone buys these things based on fuel economy, but I am
> having a hard time believing you got the same mileage with the 6V as
> the 8V. I know in my case I generally got 6-8mpg with the 83 PT40,
> depending on how tight the nut behind the wheel was wound, and after
> two fill-ups with the 91 WB40 I have gotten 4.6 and 4.7 .... NOT
> impressed! Both of them are 40s, both had 5 spd tranny, 91 is
> heavier, but..... definitely not the same in miles per gallons.
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1983 PT40 "Stagecoach" - Going to a new home on Sunday!!
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" - Now I can have time to work on this one!
> San Antonio, TX
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002"
> wrote:
> >
> > Tom: You won't save a dime in fuel economy with the 6V92 over the
> > 8V92. As a matter of fact, my 8V electgronic is more economical
than
> > my previous 6V mechanical. As long as you drive in flat country,
it
> > probably doesn't make any difference.
> >
> > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner
wrote:
> > >
> > > Ron there might be other considerations but then maybe you
considered
> > > them and/or had information that I did not see. For instance,
> > > unless I absolutely knew what the maintenance history of both
coaches
> > > were and the price that will be finally paid for each including
taxes
> > > and registration fees if there are some ( realizing they had a
max
> > > budget of $50-75K) that would leave somewhere in the range of
> > > $60,000 not including taxes.
> > >
> > > I would go with the coach that fit in that budget IF I knew :
> > >
> > > 1. The tires were all servicable and had a DOT date of less
then 5
> > > years and had some assurance that they had not been abused by
running
> > > over/or under inflated or run over curbs. .
> > >
> > > 2. You had service records for the coach to ensure it was
regularly
> > > maintained and not sit for long periods of time.
> > >
> > > 3. You consider the fuel mileage. The PT36 with a 6V92 will
get
> > > better mileage then the PT38 with a 8V92. Either one I would
have
> > > inspected by a reputable mechanice to make sure there are no
problems
> > > with the engines.
> > >
> > > 4. And lastly use the Vintage birds checklist and go over every
> > > single item in the coach. That checklist could very well help
you get
> > > a lower price then the owner is willing to go to knowing that
there
> > > are no problems. If everything checks out however you will feel
> > > better about the price you do have to pay.
> > >
> > > Good luck in which ever one you buy.
> > >
> > > Tom Warner
> > > 1982 FC35
> > > Vernon Center,NY
> > >
> > >
> > > At 06:03 PM 2/2/2006, you wrote:
> > > >I've run coaches with both. I would not consider the 6V92
again. On
> > > >a small coach, it might be fine, but between the two coaches,
> there is
> > > >not a lot of weight difference, thus go with the 8V92 for
> performance.
> > > >You won't be sorry, unless other considerations are more
important.
> > > >
> > > >R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> > > >Forum Moderator
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "buddyballs79"

> > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello and thanks in advance for the replies.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > We're looking at two coaches right now, one is an 89 PT 36
with
> > the 6V
> > > > > 330 Detroit and the other is an 87 PT38 with the 8V 475hp
Detroit.
> > > > > Both are the silver editions. The PT 36 has 135k and the PT
> 38 has
> > > > > 100k. Since they are both a considerable distance away we
were
> > > > > wondering if anybody has had any experience with these
coaches.
> > How is
> > > > > the performance of the 36 with the 6V Detroit vs the 38 with
> the 8V?
> > > > > Any pros or cons for one or the other? It will be our first
> diesel
> > > > > motorhome and we love the look of the older Bluebirds. Our
> > budget is
> > > > > $50k to $75k max.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks again for the help.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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