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Becoming a Birdman?
02-18-2006, 10:53
Post: #11
Becoming a Birdman?
I'm pretty sure it is an aftermarket, and whoever did it was skilled.
It has a pyrometer and boost pressure gauge installed high up in
front of the driver. However, I would not purchase an engine
converted this way because there is usually a big difference in the
internal strengths of NA vs. turbo engines. Most retroactively turbo'd
na's live a short life.

Kerry

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Rob Robinson wrote:
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> Kerry, just as an adjunct. In the 3 or 4 years I have been on this
forum I
> cannot remember anyone having anything positive to say about attempting
> an 'after market' turbo job on a NA 3208. Believe me there are some
experts
> here that could do it, but as I recall they have all said it would
be their
> special project and it was not for the shade tree guy. I could be
wrong but
> that's how I remember it.
>
> Rob, Sue & Merlin
> 94 WLWB
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> > You read me well. Yes, I do most of my own mechanical work. I live
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> > that limits me to post-83 production? Can you answer the question in
> >
> > my other post about whether the one I looked at today is a
converted NA?
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> > Kerry
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> > > Rob, Sue & Merlin (still larn'n wrench'n)
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but am now
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02-18-2006, 11:00
Post: #12
Becoming a Birdman?
No, I looked at it pretty closly today but it was about 10 below zero
this morning so I didn't plan to drive it.

Kerry

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@... wrote:
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> Kerry- have you driven this coach? Ernie
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02-18-2006, 13:01
Post: #13
Becoming a Birdman?
Kerry, I had a 69 Travoco 220 what a fun camper.The 318 in the Travco
fiberglass camper will run circles around my 500 hp 40 ft diesel
bus. The cat-Foretravel has got to perform better and get more mpg
than the cat-Bird (weight). The safty points never did much for me
because the windshields were the same thickness. The convincing
factor is Ride, Style, and timeless appeal. Look at the Brinner bus
on the homepage of this forum. Beautiful

When I pulled into a campground with my Travco people would lock up
their belongings. Now when I pull up in my Wonderlodge people come
over to check the bus out , then go back and lock up their
belongings. If I had a Foretravel , no one would notice I checked in.

Gregory O'Connor
Romoland Ca

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "davidkerryedwards"
wrote:
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> Hello everyone:
> I'm new here and I'm looking to replace my 71 Travco 220 which has
> become too small. I've been looking mainly at Foretravels, but am
now
> giving serious thought to a Wanderlodge. Can you give me some
> convincing reasons to make the switch over to a bus? I know they
seem
> quite a bit safer in their construction techniques. I am somewhat
> concerned about engine noise in the FC models. I'm considering
early
> 80's models with the turbo cat 3208. Wha't everyone's opinion on
their
> performance in mountainous terrain. What about access for
maintenance.
> The engine seems shoehorned into the FC compared to pusher
> motorhomes. Are most frequent maintenancce problems easily dealt
with
> in an FC ro do you have to hire a kid with small hands? It strikes
me
> that the shorter wheelbase would make the Bluebird's a little more
> manoeverable in tight quarters. What kind of fuel economy are people
> seeing in the 3208T?
>
> Kerry Edwards
>
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02-18-2006, 15:32
Post: #14
Becoming a Birdman?
K--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "davidkerryedwards"
wrote:
>
> You read me well. Yes, I do most of my own mechanical work. I live
> in Colorado so I need a turbo. I assume, from some research today,
> that limits me to post-83 production? Can you answer the question
in
> my other post about whether the one I looked at today is a
converted NA?
>
> Kerry
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Rob Robinson wrote:
> >
> > Kerry there is a Bluebird for every budget. You have a 1971 Travco
> and I
> > suspect you might be a bit of mechanic. If this is the case then
the
> Bluebird
> > age spread option for you is certainly greater. All birds require
> TLC, some
> > more than others, but if you are a better than average wrench and
> you want an
> > older top notch quality production built motorhome, Bluebird is
for
> you. Your
> > choice, pick the one that best meets your ability and budget.
Forget
> about
> > safety, it is covered no matter what bird you choose. There is
> nothing safer.
> >
> > Rob, Sue & Merlin (still larn'n wrench'n)
> > 94 WLWB
> >
> >
> > Quoting davidkerryedwards :
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello everyone:
> > >
> > > I'm new here and I'm looking to replace my 71 Travco 220 which
has
> > >
> > > become too small. I've been looking mainly at Foretravels, but
am now
> > >
> > > giving serious thought to a Wanderlodge. Can you give me some
> > >
> > > convincing reasons to make the switch over to a bus? I know
they seem
> > >
> > > quite a bit safer in their construction techniques. I am
somewhat
> > >
> > > concerned about engine noise in the FC models. I'm considering
early
> > >
> > > 80's models with the turbo cat 3208. Wha't everyone's opinion
on their
> > >
> > > performance in mountainous terrain. What about access for
maintenance.
> > >
> > > The engine seems shoehorned into the FC compared to pusher
> > >
> > > motorhomes. Are most frequent maintenancce problems easily
dealt with
> > >
> > > in an FC ro do you have to hire a kid with small hands? It
strikes me
> > >
> > > that the shorter wheelbase would make the Bluebird's a little
more
> > >
> > > manoeverable in tight quarters. What kind of fuel economy are
people
> > >
> > > seeing in the 3208T?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Kerry Edwards

Kerry I bought my 78 Wanderlodge in Denver and it spent over 10 years
in around that area. It has a 3208 NA but I don't think you would
notice the difference to much. I think the turbo give you another 15
HP and that not a hell of allot difference. My bird get an honest 10
mpg and folks here say that can't be right but I have rechecked it
many times now and that's what I get. It a 33 footer and so that
makes it a little lighter that the 35 footers. If you buy one try to
get one oft the Vintage bird as most of those people really take care
of their rigs. Oh yes I paid 21,900 dollars for mine and it had a new
paint job and all new interior plus a new gen-set. Just look around
and your right bird with come to you.

Jon
Rebel Bird
Bremerton Washington
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02-19-2006, 03:21
Post: #15
Becoming a Birdman?
It's in Denver.

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@... wrote:
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> In a message dated 2/18/2006 4:27:09 PM Central Standard Time,
> kerry.edwards@... writes:
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> whether the one I looked at today is a converted NA
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> Kerry, refresh my memory- where is the coach you are looking at
located?
> Ernie-83pt40
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