Just a question?

[Jon]

I know that FC units were sold as buses but were PT's sold for
anything else but motor homes? If so where can I see a commercial rig?

Jon (From Bremerton) Navy Town
78 Wanderlodge

[Scott Peatross]

I see pusher Bluebird Schoolies around L.A. now and then, but never a tag axle
version.

Scott Peatross
'87 PT40


Jon wrote:
I know that FC units were sold as buses but were PT's sold for
anything else but motor homes? If so where can I see a commercial rig?

Jon (From Bremerton) Navy Town
78 Wanderlodge





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[Tom Warner]

The Forward control Wanderlodges were not sold as buses. Buses have a
front entrance and a rear safety door. Many school bus parts were
used in the FC Wanderlodges. For example if you remove the bottom
dash you will find under it the school bus dash without the gauges etc.

There were no tag axel school buses that I could find. The closest is
the current TC2000 which still shares some of the components with the
FC models of the 80's such as the windshields.

Do yourself a favor and buy a FC if that is what you want it will be
cheaper in the long run. Same with buying a used one. You almost can
never buy a poor one and upgrade it to equal ones that are selling in
excellent shape. Even disregarding the labor you will put into it.
Been there done that.


tom warner
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY

At 01:35 PM 3/2/2006, you wrote:
>I see pusher Bluebird Schoolies around L.A. now and then, but never
>a tag axle version.
>
> Scott Peatross
> '87 PT40
>
>
>Jon wrote:
> I know that FC units were sold as buses but were PT's sold for
>anything else but motor homes? If so where can I see a commercial rig?
>
>Jon (From Bremerton) Navy Town
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[Jeff Miller]

Being that the question was regarding "FC units", not Wanderlodge,
yes, the BlueBird All-American FC is a school bus. Wanderlodge is
what they became after driving them across the street to the
Wanderlodge factory to be finished, the All-American body was fitted
with special equipment to become a Wanderlodge however such as
special powertrain, no side windows, no emergency-exit door, Ridewell
suspension, etc.
As the FC wanderlodge is based on this bus with modifications, most
years came with an operator's manual for the All-American FC in the
blue box of both the early FC and PT. Side doors were available for
handicap buses etc., front and rear doors also. The pushers were
available as school buses also, the tag-axle was necessary with the
intended weight of the completed Wanderlodge coach however.

- Jeff Miller
in Holland, MI


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner
wrote:
>
> The Forward control Wanderlodges were not sold as buses. Buses have
a
> front entrance and a rear safety door. Many school bus parts were
> used in the FC Wanderlodges. For example if you remove the bottom
> dash you will find under it the school bus dash without the gauges
etc.
>
> There were no tag axel school buses that I could find. The closest
is
> the current TC2000 which still shares some of the components with
the
> FC models of the 80's such as the windshields.
>
> Do yourself a favor and buy a FC if that is what you want it will
be
> cheaper in the long run. Same with buying a used one. You almost
can
> never buy a poor one and upgrade it to equal ones that are selling
in
> excellent shape. Even disregarding the labor you will put into it.
> Been there done that.
>
>
> tom warner
> 1982 FC35
> Vernon Center,NY
>
> At 01:35 PM 3/2/2006, you wrote:
> >I see pusher Bluebird Schoolies around L.A. now and then, but
never
> >a tag axle version.
> >
> > Scott Peatross
> > '87 PT40
> >
> >
> >Jon wrote:
> > I know that FC units were sold as buses but were PT's sold for
> >anything else but motor homes? If so where can I see a commercial
rig?
> >
> >Jon (From Bremerton) Navy Town
> >78 Wanderlodge
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[Jon]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Miller"
wrote:
>
> Being that the question was regarding "FC units", not Wanderlodge,
> yes, the BlueBird All-American FC is a school bus. Wanderlodge is
> what they became after driving them across the street to the
> Wanderlodge factory to be finished, the All-American body was
fitted
> with special equipment to become a Wanderlodge however such as
> special powertrain, no side windows, no emergency-exit door,
Ridewell
> suspension, etc.
> As the FC wanderlodge is based on this bus with modifications, most
> years came with an operator's manual for the All-American FC in the
> blue box of both the early FC and PT. Side doors were available for
> handicap buses etc., front and rear doors also. The pushers were
> available as school buses also, the tag-axle was necessary with the
> intended weight of the completed Wanderlodge coach however.
>
> - Jeff Miller
> in Holland, MI
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner
> wrote:
> >
> > The Forward control Wanderlodges were not sold as buses. Buses
have
> a
> > front entrance and a rear safety door. Many school bus parts were
> > used in the FC Wanderlodges. For example if you remove the bottom
> > dash you will find under it the school bus dash without the
gauges
> etc.
> >
> > There were no tag axel school buses that I could find. The
closest
> is
> > the current TC2000 which still shares some of the components with
> the
> > FC models of the 80's such as the windshields.
> >
> > Do yourself a favor and buy a FC if that is what you want it will
> be
> > cheaper in the long run. Same with buying a used one. You almost
> can
> > never buy a poor one and upgrade it to equal ones that are
selling
> in
> > excellent shape. Even disregarding the labor you will put into
it.
> > Been there done that.
> >
> >
> > tom warner
> > 1982 FC35
> > Vernon Center,NY
> >
> > At 01:35 PM 3/2/2006, you wrote:
> > >I see pusher Bluebird Schoolies around L.A. now and then, but
> never
> > >a tag axle version.
> > >
> > > Scott Peatross
> > > '87 PT40
> > >
> > >
> > >Jon wrote:
> > > I know that FC units were sold as buses but were PT's sold for
> > >anything else but motor homes? If so where can I see a
commercial
> rig?
> > >
> > >Jon (From Bremerton) Navy Town
> > >78 Wanderlodge
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> >This subject is very interesting and someone said bluebirds buses
FC's never had center doors. Well I was employed by the US Navy at
Bremeton Naval Shipyard they had a fleet of buses to move people
around. One of thies old buses had a center door and it was a
bluebird!!! Kind of an interesting old bird as before it came to the
shipyard it was used by the Air force to move prisoners. It had a
cage in the back for just this purpose. I think it might have also
been a 31 footer or maybe a 33?

Jon 78 Wanderlodge
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