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04-25-2006, 00:03
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bio Diesel
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I have to agree with AL, everything I have read says it "should" be cleaner, but you can't argue with the facts on the ground that you have seen. I wonder if the "slime" is from storage tank deposits or if they mixed it with a lower grade diesel? Some peoples idea of biodiesel is to mix used cooking oil with diesel, WRONG that will cause problems like you have stated. I doubt that anyone would do that to a brand new truck! check out this link to a guy that is doing just that http://tinyurl.com/qo5o3 Thanks Bruce '83FCSB "Blue Skies" still reasearching biodiesel, collecting parts for processor --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Darst" wrote: > > Al, > > The Diesels trucks we are having troubles with have less than 10,000 > miles on them. 2 of them had 4,000 miles on them when we changed the > filters under warranty for a 2nd time. > > The trucks symptoms were simply no power. Changed the fuel filter > and off they go again. > > We have been cutting open the filters lately, the last 5 or 6 have > had a brownish slime coating the element. > > I know for a fact that the 2 trucks mentioned were ordered by the > customers, built promptly by GM, delivered to customers within a day > or 2 of their arrival and been driven daily since using 11% Bio- > Diesel. > > My service team is in contact with GM techline working on a > solution. Gm techline has informed us that they will void the fuel > system warranty on any vehicle that has more than a 5% biodiesel > mixture in its fuel system. > > The DaimlerChrysler folks have sent us a bulletin that indicates > that any fuel above 5% Bio has caused the high pressure injection > pumps to fail due to lack of lubrication to the fuel pump. They too, > are voiding the pump warranty on anything over 5%. > > We are in the farmimg belt, where they make 70bu/acre soybeans and > 225bu/acre corn, my store is in a big farming community. I sure > would rather see us burning 100% Bio, certainly would make my buyers > buy more! > > If there is a petroleum engineer on this forum who can provide us > the answer, we certainly are listening. > > Thanks > Jay Darst > HPR Automotive Superstore > Chrysler-Dodge-Jeep-Buick-Pontiac-GMC > Sullivan, IL > Service Director Bob Freeman > 217-728-4366 voice phone > > 85PT40 6V92 burning 11% BioDiesel and still changing Racor fuel > filters at every oil change for 3 years and 40,000 miles. > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Al" > > > > Jay, > > Actually, biodiesel is a very good solvent. So it's not the > > fuel that is dirty. Basically, biodiesel is cleaning out years of > > petro build-up. If you don't believe me, take a very dirty engine > > and put diesel on it and let it sit for 5 minutes and rinse. > > Nothing comes off the engine. Put the biodiesel on it and rinse > and > > it will clean engine better than any off the shelf engine > cleaner. > > Plus biodiesel is derived from plants so it is a renewable > resourse > > unlike the petro we by from our friends in the middle east now > over > > $75 a barrel. Generally after a couple of tanks, your system will > > be cleaned out and the freq. filter changes will go away. > > > > Al Johnson > > 96 BMC > > Mandeville, Louisiana > > Currently in Chongqing, China. > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Darst" > > > > > > > > Guy, > > > I have not been exposed to the B20 blend of Bio diesel. > > > > > > But would like to make a comment here... > > > > > > The local distributor(in Sullivan,IL) only sells the 11% bio- > blend. > > > > > > With the late model GMC Duramax Diesels, we have found > consistency > > > in the need to replace the fuel filter every 2,000 miles when > > using > > > this 11% Bio-Diesel. > > > > > > In the Cummins, no problems such as this. > > > > > > We have a GMC customer who has replaced the OEM factory filter > > with > > > a Racor, don't know which micron filter element he is using... > > > > > > Seems that the 11% Bio-Diesel has a thicker viscosity making it > > > harder to filter the crap out prior to selling it to the > retailers. > > > > > > I buy most of my fuel from this place, I get 6.4mpg with it. > Used > > to > > > get 5.5 to 6.0 with Flying J fuel, but its about the same now. > The > > > real point here is, my Racor element is covered with a black > slime > > > when the filter is changed every 5,000 miles, when the DD oil & > > > filter change is performed. > > > > > > I use Lucas fuel treatment at the rate of 1 gallon per 400 > > gallons > > > of diesel, should be sufficient to prevent algae/plant growth in > > my > > > fuel. > > > > > > Bottom line here, Bio-Diesel is not as clean as fossil fuel. > > > > > > My brother Dan has mentioned that the powers that be are > changing > > > the diesel fuel chemical mix in September, causing a very minor > > > reduction in the cetane(like Octane is to gasoline). > > > > > > Diesel fuel, seems like a moving target right now ...;~} > > > > > > Later > > > Jay Darst > > > 85PT40 > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "guysmalley" > > > > > > > > > > > Has anybody actually tried B20 bio diesel blend? > > > > > > > > http://www.biodiesel.org/buyingbiodiesel...lingsites/ > > > > > > > > guy smalley > > > > 86 pt 40 > > > > > > > > > > |
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bio Diesel - erniecarpet@... - 04-23-2006, 23:46
bio Diesel - guysmalley - 04-24-2006, 01:19
bio Diesel - Al - 04-24-2006, 01:39
bio Diesel - erniecarpet@... - 04-24-2006, 02:45
bio Diesel - Al - 04-24-2006, 04:00
bio Diesel - patticake592000 - 04-24-2006, 09:55
bio Diesel - guysmalley - 04-24-2006, 10:18
bio Diesel - guysmalley - 04-24-2006, 10:20
bio Diesel - Jay Darst - 04-24-2006, 15:39
bio Diesel - Al - 04-24-2006, 17:59
bio Diesel - Jay Darst - 04-24-2006, 23:03
bio Diesel - fl_bluebird_1983 - 04-25-2006 00:03
bio Diesel - Mike Hohnstein - 04-25-2006, 01:56
bio Diesel - Al - 04-25-2006, 02:47
bio Diesel - Al - 04-25-2006, 02:58
bio Diesel - Pete Masterson - 04-25-2006, 05:17
bio Diesel - Dick Gercken - 04-25-2006, 06:24
bio Diesel - Jay Darst - 04-25-2006, 14:53
bio Diesel - Al - 04-26-2006, 16:06
bio Diesel - Jay Darst - 04-27-2006, 03:25
bio Diesel - mjzakowski - 10-23-2007, 14:50
bio Diesel - mbrund - 10-27-2007, 15:05
bio Diesel - Al - 10-29-2007, 15:18
bio Diesel - Greg Young - 10-29-2007, 17:27
bio Diesel - John - 10-30-2007, 00:31
bio Diesel - Greg Young - 10-30-2007, 05:24
bio Diesel - John - 10-30-2007, 06:47
bio Diesel - Ryan Wright - 10-30-2007, 19:19
bio Diesel - martingregg598 - 10-31-2007, 03:34
bio Diesel - Mike Hohnstein - 10-31-2007, 04:04
bio Diesel - Al - 10-31-2007, 13:58
bio Diesel - Ryan Wright - 11-05-2007, 07:34
bio Diesel - Al - 11-05-2007, 07:49
bio Diesel - Ryan Wright - 11-05-2007, 10:13
bio Diesel - Al - 11-05-2007, 10:26
bio Diesel - Al - 11-05-2007, 10:27
bio Diesel - Ryan Wright - 11-08-2007, 11:06
bio Diesel - Leroy A. Eckert - 05-30-2008, 13:09
bio Diesel - Leroy Eckert - 05-30-2008, 13:39
bio Diesel - David Brady - 05-30-2008, 14:29
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