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bio Diesel
04-25-2006, 00:03
Post: #12
bio Diesel
Check out this site http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel.html
I have to agree with AL, everything I have read says it "should" be
cleaner, but you can't argue with the facts on the ground that you
have seen. I wonder if the "slime" is from storage tank deposits or
if they mixed it with a lower grade diesel? Some peoples idea of
biodiesel is to mix used cooking oil with diesel, WRONG that will
cause problems like you have stated. I doubt that anyone would do
that to a brand new truck! check out this link to a guy that is doing
just that http://tinyurl.com/qo5o3

Thanks
Bruce
'83FCSB
"Blue Skies" still reasearching biodiesel, collecting parts for
processor

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Darst"
wrote:
>
> Al,
>
> The Diesels trucks we are having troubles with have less than
10,000
> miles on them. 2 of them had 4,000 miles on them when we changed
the
> filters under warranty for a 2nd time.
>
> The trucks symptoms were simply no power. Changed the fuel filter
> and off they go again.
>
> We have been cutting open the filters lately, the last 5 or 6 have
> had a brownish slime coating the element.
>
> I know for a fact that the 2 trucks mentioned were ordered by the
> customers, built promptly by GM, delivered to customers within a
day
> or 2 of their arrival and been driven daily since using 11% Bio-
> Diesel.
>
> My service team is in contact with GM techline working on a
> solution. Gm techline has informed us that they will void the fuel
> system warranty on any vehicle that has more than a 5% biodiesel
> mixture in its fuel system.
>
> The DaimlerChrysler folks have sent us a bulletin that indicates
> that any fuel above 5% Bio has caused the high pressure injection
> pumps to fail due to lack of lubrication to the fuel pump. They
too,
> are voiding the pump warranty on anything over 5%.
>
> We are in the farmimg belt, where they make 70bu/acre soybeans and
> 225bu/acre corn, my store is in a big farming community. I sure
> would rather see us burning 100% Bio, certainly would make my
buyers
> buy more!
>
> If there is a petroleum engineer on this forum who can provide us
> the answer, we certainly are listening.
>
> Thanks
> Jay Darst
> HPR Automotive Superstore
> Chrysler-Dodge-Jeep-Buick-Pontiac-GMC
> Sullivan, IL
> Service Director Bob Freeman
> 217-728-4366 voice phone
>
> 85PT40 6V92 burning 11% BioDiesel and still changing Racor fuel
> filters at every oil change for 3 years and 40,000 miles.
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Al" wrote:
> >
> > Jay,
> > Actually, biodiesel is a very good solvent. So it's not the
> > fuel that is dirty. Basically, biodiesel is cleaning out years
of
> > petro build-up. If you don't believe me, take a very dirty
engine
> > and put diesel on it and let it sit for 5 minutes and rinse.
> > Nothing comes off the engine. Put the biodiesel on it and rinse
> and
> > it will clean engine better than any off the shelf engine
> cleaner.
> > Plus biodiesel is derived from plants so it is a renewable
> resourse
> > unlike the petro we by from our friends in the middle east now
> over
> > $75 a barrel. Generally after a couple of tanks, your system
will
> > be cleaned out and the freq. filter changes will go away.
> >
> > Al Johnson
> > 96 BMC
> > Mandeville, Louisiana
> > Currently in Chongqing, China.
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Darst"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Guy,
> > > I have not been exposed to the B20 blend of Bio diesel.
> > >
> > > But would like to make a comment here...
> > >
> > > The local distributor(in Sullivan,IL) only sells the 11% bio-
> blend.
> > >
> > > With the late model GMC Duramax Diesels, we have found
> consistency
> > > in the need to replace the fuel filter every 2,000 miles when
> > using
> > > this 11% Bio-Diesel.
> > >
> > > In the Cummins, no problems such as this.
> > >
> > > We have a GMC customer who has replaced the OEM factory filter
> > with
> > > a Racor, don't know which micron filter element he is using...
> > >
> > > Seems that the 11% Bio-Diesel has a thicker viscosity making it
> > > harder to filter the crap out prior to selling it to the
> retailers.
> > >
> > > I buy most of my fuel from this place, I get 6.4mpg with it.
> Used
> > to
> > > get 5.5 to 6.0 with Flying J fuel, but its about the same now.
> The
> > > real point here is, my Racor element is covered with a black
> slime
> > > when the filter is changed every 5,000 miles, when the DD oil &
> > > filter change is performed.
> > >
> > > I use Lucas fuel treatment at the rate of 1 gallon per 400
> > gallons
> > > of diesel, should be sufficient to prevent algae/plant growth
in
> > my
> > > fuel.
> > >
> > > Bottom line here, Bio-Diesel is not as clean as fossil fuel.
> > >
> > > My brother Dan has mentioned that the powers that be are
> changing
> > > the diesel fuel chemical mix in September, causing a very minor
> > > reduction in the cetane(like Octane is to gasoline).
> > >
> > > Diesel fuel, seems like a moving target right now ...;~}
> > >
> > > Later
> > > Jay Darst
> > > 85PT40
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "guysmalley"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Has anybody actually tried B20 bio diesel blend?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.biodiesel.org/buyingbiodiesel...lingsites/
> > > >
> > > > guy smalley
> > > > 86 pt 40
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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bio Diesel - erniecarpet@... - 04-23-2006, 23:46
bio Diesel - guysmalley - 04-24-2006, 01:19
bio Diesel - Al - 04-24-2006, 01:39
bio Diesel - erniecarpet@... - 04-24-2006, 02:45
bio Diesel - Al - 04-24-2006, 04:00
bio Diesel - patticake592000 - 04-24-2006, 09:55
bio Diesel - guysmalley - 04-24-2006, 10:18
bio Diesel - guysmalley - 04-24-2006, 10:20
bio Diesel - Jay Darst - 04-24-2006, 15:39
bio Diesel - Al - 04-24-2006, 17:59
bio Diesel - Jay Darst - 04-24-2006, 23:03
bio Diesel - fl_bluebird_1983 - 04-25-2006 00:03
bio Diesel - Mike Hohnstein - 04-25-2006, 01:56
bio Diesel - Al - 04-25-2006, 02:47
bio Diesel - Al - 04-25-2006, 02:58
bio Diesel - Pete Masterson - 04-25-2006, 05:17
bio Diesel - Dick Gercken - 04-25-2006, 06:24
bio Diesel - Jay Darst - 04-25-2006, 14:53
bio Diesel - Al - 04-26-2006, 16:06
bio Diesel - Jay Darst - 04-27-2006, 03:25
bio Diesel - mjzakowski - 10-23-2007, 14:50
bio Diesel - mbrund - 10-27-2007, 15:05
bio Diesel - Al - 10-29-2007, 15:18
bio Diesel - Greg Young - 10-29-2007, 17:27
bio Diesel - John - 10-30-2007, 00:31
bio Diesel - Greg Young - 10-30-2007, 05:24
bio Diesel - John - 10-30-2007, 06:47
bio Diesel - Ryan Wright - 10-30-2007, 19:19
bio Diesel - martingregg598 - 10-31-2007, 03:34
bio Diesel - Mike Hohnstein - 10-31-2007, 04:04
bio Diesel - Al - 10-31-2007, 13:58
bio Diesel - Ryan Wright - 11-05-2007, 07:34
bio Diesel - Al - 11-05-2007, 07:49
bio Diesel - Ryan Wright - 11-05-2007, 10:13
bio Diesel - Al - 11-05-2007, 10:26
bio Diesel - Al - 11-05-2007, 10:27
bio Diesel - Ryan Wright - 11-08-2007, 11:06
bio Diesel - Leroy A. Eckert - 05-30-2008, 13:09
bio Diesel - Leroy Eckert - 05-30-2008, 13:39
bio Diesel - David Brady - 05-30-2008, 14:29



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