bio Diesel

[Dick Gercken]

Amen, Amen, Amen to the reply.

Diesel fuel is a fungible product meaning that if you don't purchase it
here someone else will in another location. You purchase B10 and that
theoretically leaves some pure diesel out there for someone else. It does
not matter who uses what or where as this is a global resource. So the use
of waste oil to thin out diesel is economically efficient.

The NET cost of using soy to produce fuel is likely to be much higher than
what we pay today for diesel. The domestic soy bean is government
subsidized and I suspect so is the rain forest bean. We exploited others
for their oil and are probably doing the same thing now with rain forest
beans. In that darn near everything is subsidized by our government in some
way it may not matter any more anyway.

Happy Motoring All

Dick Gercken
2006 VW Jetta diesel. 2005 Chevy Duramax diesel I use regular pump fuel
Still looking


>>Plus biodiesel is derived from plants so it is a renewable resourse
>>unlike the petro we by from our friends in the middle east now over
>>$75 a barrel. <snip>
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>>Al Johnson
>>96 BMC
>>Mandeville, Louisiana
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> Al,
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> I really don't want to start a flame war on this topic... but there
> are two types of "bio" diesel.
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> 1. That which recycles used cooking oils obtained from restaurants,
> etc. To me, this makes a great bit of sense and it might even be
> economically feasible to create more formal collection and recycling
> systems to obtain the waste and reprocess it into usable fuel. This
> is "win-win" in that a nasty waste product is removed from the waste
> stream and turned into something useful.
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> 2. Bio diesel obtained directly from vegetable oil is mostly
> processed soy beans. This is potentially an ecological disaster
> (along with ethanol from processed corn). Agricultural production
> requires substantial amounts of fuel, chemical fertilizers, and
> pesticides (or genetically modified plants) to grow efficiently. What
> _really_ amazes me is that folks don't think about where all these
> soy beans are coming from. WIth due respect to our US farm industry,
> they are _not_ the only source of soy beans. A decade or two back,
> soy beans were bred that can be grown in tropical climates. When we
> visited Peru a couple of years ago, we were shocked to discover that
> areas in the headwaters of the Amazon basin are being cleared to grow
> ... soy beans. Checking statistics, the number one export from Brazil
> is.... soy beans. Hopefully, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to
> realize that the Amazon rain forest and tropical forests around the
> globe are being sacrificed for ... soy beans. Frankly, it's a very
> poor ecological trade off.
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> Better we drill for petroleum in ANWAR, the California and Florida
> coasts, and/or figure out how to efficiently process coal, tar sands,
> and oil shale into liquid fuels. Bio diesel is no panacea.
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> --
> Pete Masterson -- pete@...
> looking for a 91-96 WL .... with RIVITS.
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