Hills vs Motorhome

[minds@...>]

Joe,

Traveled to Monument Valley last October. Went through Saint George on our way
to Lake Powell & Monument Valley, very pretty drive. But I'm convinced that Utah
is all up hill!

Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Hagan
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:07 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Hills vs Motorhome



Jerry:

Enjoyed the website - great design, real eye-catchers. I still - on
occasion - do Elderhostel tours of the National Parks in Utah (Van Hool
T2140). Get to Moab often - Arches, Canyonlands and Dead Horse. Did you
plan on going to Monument Valley (Gouldings Crossing)? Great scenery in
this state. Enjoy.

Joe (Pappy) Hagan

St. George, UT

Wannabe

In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, <minds@...> wrote:
>
> Joe,
>
> I was just in St. George about two weeks ago on my way to Moab. I used
to drive a 4905 Buffalo in the early 1980s for a camping tour company,
then moved on to Neoplans! Talk about a night and day change! As for my
current motor home, it is a GM purpose built GMC Motor home built
between the years of 1973 and 1978. Mine is a 1976. It was never a bus.
For a reference go to: http://www.gmcmotorhome.com/
>
> Good luck in your BB hunt,
>
> Jerry L'Ecuyer
> Anaheim, CA
> 1976 GMC (for now)
> 1967 FJ-40
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joe Hagan
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 9:52 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Hills vs Motorhome
>
>
>
> Jerry:
>
> Just curious - whch model GMC coach do you have; which engine and
> tranny? Do I assume you are refering to a GM coach i.e. 4107, 4905
with
> a DD 8V71? Again, just curious - I am a former Continental Trailways
> driver from the 1950's and 1960's.
>
> Regards,
>
> Joe (Pappy) Hagan
>
> St. George, UT
>
> BB Wannabe
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, minds@ wrote:
> >
> > Gary,
> >
> > Thanks for the info, that was exactly what I needed to know. I'm not
> looking for a hot rod, just something less stressful on both myself
and
> the motorhome. The GMC is a great rig, but it was not designed to tow
> much weight.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> >
> > Jerry L'Ecuyer
> > Anaheim, CA
> > 1976 GMC (for now)
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gary Miller
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 5:26 AM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Hills vs Motorhome
> >
> >
> > Jerry,
> >
> > The coach lengths you're considering will all have the CAT 3208.
> > You'll want a turbo (critical altitude(point at which power loss
> > begins)about 8200 feet) which was introduced in 1983, along with the
> > Jacobs electric driveline retarder which is very effective at
> > controlling the descents.
> >
> > My CAT is a 225 horsepower while the last few '83s had the 250. I
> > pull a 5000 lb Montero and have had no troubles with the long
> > mountain pulls. I am normally in the slow lane with the heavy
> > trucks but don't get in their way as my speed is normally matched
> > with them if not just a little faster. I've found however that even
> > the empty trucks wanting to climb quickly don't have much concern
> > for a slow vehicle on a mountain climb. It's expected, and if you
> > stop and think about it, only lasts a few minutes before there's a
> > pullout to let folks pass.
> >
> > If you buy an '88 or later you'll have the 300 horse 3208 ATAAC
> > which will do even better. I'm not as fond of the built in retarder
> > in the ZF transmission which was matched to the ATAAC however as it
> > tends to heat up the transmission quickly. Descending hills is much
> > better with the Jacobs electric retarder and a downshift of the
> > Allison 4 speed.
> >
> > Good Luck,
> >
> > Gary Miller
> > 83 FC 33
> > Milwaukee area
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, minds@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I am a proud owner of a 1976 GMC coach . but my style of travel is
> > starting to change. I tow a heavy FJ-40 Land Cruiser which is about
> > 4200 pounds. I do ok on moderate hills but the coach feels the
> > strain. It is hard to keep up with slow traffic and I cringe at the
> > thought of long distant trips with hills. Most of my travels up to
> > now have been close to home in California and with retirement
> > closing in I am beginning to look for a more capable motor home.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I was a school bus driver in my youth, so Bluebirds were very
> > familiar. I'm looking to get info about the 33-36 foot single rear
> > axel coach. What is their ability to handle the varying terrain of
> > the West while towing and your opinion on what to avoid in my search
> > for a capable coach?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for any help
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jerry L'Ecuyer
> > >
> > > Anaheim, CA
> > >
> > > 1976 GMC (for now)
> > >
> > > 1967 FJ-40
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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