Hills vs Motorhome

[Joe Hagan]

Jerry:

The secret is finding the roads that are downhill in both directions
[] . Seriously, driving heavy vehicles, I much prefer climbing an 8%
grade than facing that same grade downhill - and as you mentioned, there
are many 8-10% grades in this part of the country. Take care.

Joe (Pappy) Hagan

St. George, UT

Wannabe
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, <minds@...> wrote:
>
> Joe,
>
> Traveled to Monument Valley last October. Went through Saint George on
our way to Lake Powell & Monument Valley, very pretty drive. But I'm
convinced that Utah is all up hill!
>
> Jerry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joe Hagan
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:07 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Hills vs Motorhome
>
>
>
> Jerry:
>
> Enjoyed the website - great design, real eye-catchers. I still - on
> occasion - do Elderhostel tours of the National Parks in Utah (Van
Hool
> T2140). Get to Moab often - Arches, Canyonlands and Dead Horse. Did
you
> plan on going to Monument Valley (Gouldings Crossing)? Great scenery
in
> this state. Enjoy.
>
> Joe (Pappy) Hagan
>
> St. George, UT
>
> Wannabe
>
> In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, minds@ wrote:
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > I was just in St. George about two weeks ago on my way to Moab. I
used
> to drive a 4905 Buffalo in the early 1980s for a camping tour company,
> then moved on to Neoplans! Talk about a night and day change! As for
my
> current motor home, it is a GM purpose built GMC Motor home built
> between the years of 1973 and 1978. Mine is a 1976. It was never a
bus.
> For a reference go to: http://www.gmcmotorhome.com/
> >
> > Good luck in your BB hunt,
> >
> > Jerry L'Ecuyer
> > Anaheim, CA
> > 1976 GMC (for now)
> > 1967 FJ-40
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Joe Hagan
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 9:52 PM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Hills vs Motorhome
> >
> >
> >
> > Jerry:
> >
> > Just curious - whch model GMC coach do you have; which engine and
> > tranny? Do I assume you are refering to a GM coach i.e. 4107, 4905
> with
> > a DD 8V71? Again, just curious - I am a former Continental Trailways
> > driver from the 1950's and 1960's.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Joe (Pappy) Hagan
> >
> > St. George, UT
> >
> > BB Wannabe
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, minds@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Gary,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the info, that was exactly what I needed to know. I'm
not
> > looking for a hot rod, just something less stressful on both myself
> and
> > the motorhome. The GMC is a great rig, but it was not designed to
tow
> > much weight.
> > >
> > > Thanks again,
> > >
> > > Jerry L'Ecuyer
> > > Anaheim, CA
> > > 1976 GMC (for now)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Gary Miller
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 5:26 AM
> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Hills vs Motorhome
> > >
> > >
> > > Jerry,
> > >
> > > The coach lengths you're considering will all have the CAT 3208.
> > > You'll want a turbo (critical altitude(point at which power loss
> > > begins)about 8200 feet) which was introduced in 1983, along with
the
> > > Jacobs electric driveline retarder which is very effective at
> > > controlling the descents.
> > >
> > > My CAT is a 225 horsepower while the last few '83s had the 250. I
> > > pull a 5000 lb Montero and have had no troubles with the long
> > > mountain pulls. I am normally in the slow lane with the heavy
> > > trucks but don't get in their way as my speed is normally matched
> > > with them if not just a little faster. I've found however that
even
> > > the empty trucks wanting to climb quickly don't have much concern
> > > for a slow vehicle on a mountain climb. It's expected, and if you
> > > stop and think about it, only lasts a few minutes before there's a
> > > pullout to let folks pass.
> > >
> > > If you buy an '88 or later you'll have the 300 horse 3208 ATAAC
> > > which will do even better. I'm not as fond of the built in
retarder
> > > in the ZF transmission which was matched to the ATAAC however as
it
> > > tends to heat up the transmission quickly. Descending hills is
much
> > > better with the Jacobs electric retarder and a downshift of the
> > > Allison 4 speed.
> > >
> > > Good Luck,
> > >
> > > Gary Miller
> > > 83 FC 33
> > > Milwaukee area
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, minds@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I am a proud owner of a 1976 GMC coach . but my style of travel
is
> > > starting to change. I tow a heavy FJ-40 Land Cruiser which is
about
> > > 4200 pounds. I do ok on moderate hills but the coach feels the
> > > strain. It is hard to keep up with slow traffic and I cringe at
the
> > > thought of long distant trips with hills. Most of my travels up to
> > > now have been close to home in California and with retirement
> > > closing in I am beginning to look for a more capable motor home.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I was a school bus driver in my youth, so Bluebirds were very
> > > familiar. I'm looking to get info about the 33-36 foot single rear
> > > axel coach. What is their ability to handle the varying terrain of
> > > the West while towing and your opinion on what to avoid in my
search
> > > for a capable coach?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any help
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jerry L'Ecuyer
> > > >
> > > > Anaheim, CA
> > > >
> > > > 1976 GMC (for now)
> > > >
> > > > 1967 FJ-40
> > > >
> > > >
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