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Generator
04-27-2006, 13:40
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Generator
Thanks George,

However, it is when I hold the switch in that I get into trouble. It usually
will not
continue running and that is when the starter stayed engaged even after I let
go of the switch. On at least two occassions it cranked until I got out of the
bus
and pulled the quick disconnect for the batteries. That must have been a
couple of minutes of cranking and it still did not catch.

Thanks - Dave (84PT40)

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "George Lowry" <
wwemu1@...> wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> From what I have learned from my own experience and from writings on
another
> forum by an Onan Generator repairman, you need to hold the stat switch
until
> the alternator is putting out enough power to hold the fuel valve open. If
> you release it as soon as the engine fires, the fuel solenoid will go to the
> off position. It is only the battery power that is keeping it open while
> cranking.
>
> As soon as the engine fires, the bendix should disengage and the starter
> spin freely. It only takes a couple of seconds for the power to come up
> enough to hold the fuel solenoid....
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> George Lowry
> '06 Alpine Apex - Formerly '95 WBDA 4203
> Spearfish, SD - Now in Stockton, CA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of dhardy1944
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 2:08 PM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: generator
>
>
> Bill,
>
> I replaced the starter solenoid, so I think it is primarily having to crank
> too
> long. The starter doesn't seem to stick when I let off as soon as the gen
> fires. It
> fires quickly but does not stay running but a few seconds. About the third
> or
> fourth time it continues to run. I have replaced the filters. Everyone I
> have
> mentioned it to suppects air in the line. Thanks for the input.
>
> Dave (84PT40)
>
> I am not sure where to start--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> "pattypape" wrote:
> >
> > Cranking and sticking in the on/start position, could be a solenoid
> > overheating and seizing in the closed position.
> >
> > Not starting is probably a fuel problem,, dirty filter, air in the
> > line, fuel pump, not exercising the gennie, etc.
> >
> > Bill 88 FC
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "dhardy1944"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Jeff,
> > >
> > > Thanks so much. Let me describe what I have done so far. The gen
> > battery
> > > was down. It has a quick disconnect so I disconnected it and put a
> > charger on
> > > it. After a few minutes I engaged the quick disconnect and my
> > charger pegged
> > > and kicked out. It is as if there is a major load on it.
> > >
> > > When I bought my bus it did not have the original chargers (one
> > smaller
> > > charger). I had an electrician help me install a 2500 Xantrex.
> > That has been
> > > two years and all has worked well ( a few times gen voltage less
> > than main
> > > batteries - pushing aux swith brought it up) . The Xantrex is
> > housed in a box
> > > just ahead of the right drive wheels. There are some heavy cables
> > there, a
> > > solenoid and maybe a diode (about three quarters an inch by one
> > and a
> > > quarter/) with two yellow wires.
> > >
> > > Also, I realized awhile back that my gen battery does not start
> > the generator.
> > > My starter solenoid stuck engaged (gen didn't start) so I opened
> > the gen door
> > > and pulled the quick disconnect. It kept turning over until I went
> > to the rear of
> > > the bus and turned three disconnects for main batteries - that
> > solved it.
> > >
> > > The gen battery is charging at this time (group 31 Interstate). If
> > this info helps
> > > and you have additional direction I would certainly appreciate it.
> > I have had
> > > the stuck starter solenoid about three times. The gen never starts
> > on first try. It
> > > takes an average of three. I always preheat so I think it may be
> > my lift pump for
> > > the diesel. I really don't know.
> > >
> > > Thanks so very much.
> > >
> > > Dave in Tulsa (84PT40)
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Miller"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Likely the genset battery is dead. The auxiliary start switch is
> > > > powered from the genset battery, if the genset battery is dead
> > it
> > > > won't parallel the batteries.
> > > >
> > > > Try jumping the genset battery, it is probably dead. There is a
> > stud-
> > > > mount diode and a circuit-breaker in a small enclosure near the
> > > > battery chargers through which the genset battery is supposed to
> > > > charge, likely one of these is the problem.
> > > >
> > > > - Jeff Miller
> > > > in Holland, MI
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "dhardy1944" <
> dhardy@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yesterday morning we lost power at our home for about three
> > hours,
> > > > so I
> > > > > started the generator and my wife went out to the bus to get
> > ready.
> > > > Later in the
> > > > > day I pushed the start button and nothing. I also noticed the
> > the
> > > > voltmeter (for
> > > > > the generator) was all the way to the left. When I attempted
> > to run
> > > > the
> > > > > generator out to see if I could find a blown fuse, it did not
> > > > respond. It seems
> > > > > like a fuse or relay somewhere has shut off all power to the
> > > > generator. The
> > > > > coach batteries are fine and when I push the auxiliary swith
> > it
> > > > doesn't help. If
> > > > > someone can give me some help I would appreciate it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave in Tulsa (84PT40)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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