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oil leak part 2
05-16-2006, 14:33
Post: #10
oil leak part 2
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Henry Jay Hannigan"
wrote:
>
> ---Hey George!
>
> Great reply from a mechanics view! ur correct about implied
> warranty of merchantabilty for only 90 days,. However, discovery
> comes into view also..and...if it is true that GASKET was NEVER
> installed, don't u thing the Installer owner has some good
> faith/good will obligation to respond?
Hank,
Playing Devil's Advocate (and telling you what a Defense
Attorney might say), the repair mechanic cannot possibly certify the
gasket was "never installed" in writing or otherwise. I'm assuming
the mechanic was not present when the engine was installed/assembled.
That's the only situation in which the mechanic could truthfully
state "the gasket was never installed". If he was there at the time,
he could certify as such. If he wasn't present when this was done, he
has no idea whether it was or wasn't.
The mechanic could truthfully state, "the bolts were loose and no
gasket was found", but there's nothing else to which he could testify
and offer proof other than that to which he could testify he had
personally observed.

>
> Also please note that I told Ernie to have the repair mechanic
> certify the "never installed" gasket fact in writing.
Based on.........?
>
> Probably all moot and nothing will happen except Ernie will eat the
> bill, but if it were me, and...I had the facts, I would make a phone
> call to the garage owner where it was installed and share the story.
Unfortunately, there are only 2 I can validate and none that I
see that can get Ernie out of writing a check.
The good new is, any problem we have that can be fixed with money
is minor indeed, compared to the ones that money can't fix. :o)

George Witt
81 FC 35
Lincoln, Nebraska
>
> Besides, I have nothing to do in retirement and was very bored as I
> have slowed my online poker down, so I thought I would respond to
> Ernie...AND I got SUNBURN laying on the beach at KOolina Resort
> yesterday. LOL
> Hank Hannigan
> 90SP36(stored inVegas but for sale so I can pay my Hawaii hotel bill)
> In Hawaii washing dishes..LOL
>
>
>
>
>
> In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "George Witt" <mrdonut12@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hank,
> > If I may chime in here as a repair shop owner and mechanic...
> > If the bolts were loose and the gasket not present, is it
> possible
> > that the bolts failed, came loose and the pressure blew the gasket
> out?
> > The fact that no gasket was found only means "no gasket was
> > found". It doesn't necessarily mean it was never installed.
> > Tightening bolts stretches them and the resulting stretch
> > provides a clamping force. If the bolts fail, they stretch too
> far,
> > like a rubber band that was stretched too far and they get loose,
> > since the clamping force is no longer present. This could allow
> the
> > gasket to blow out from the pressure. Hence, no gasket could be
> found.
> > Next, I believe Federal Law only requires a warranty to be 90
> > days or 3,000 miles on mechanical repairs, so any warranty would
> be up
> > by now.
> > Moral of the story: Be sure they throw out the bolts that
> were
> > loose and use new ones. Once any bolt is found loose, you never
> > "tighten them up" as they are probably stretched. Also be sure
> they
> > use the proper grade of bolt and they're torqued to the proper spec
> > for the grade and thread pitch. Each grade has a different torque
> > spec and so does each thread pitch for that grade and size bolt.
> > This is the reason my shop NEVER reuses cylinder head bolts
> when
> > replacing a "blown head gasket", since the bolts could have
> stretched
> > and caused the gasket to blow.
> > Just some background from a mechanic's perspective...
> >
> > George Witt
> > 81 FC 35
> > Lincoln, Nebraska
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Henry Jay Hannigan"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ---Ernie:
> > > Not sure what Texas legal ground u stand on as that rebuild was
> a
> > > while ago, however it was evidently done incorrectly. As such it
> has
> > > been a concern since day one of the rebuild. Recommend u chat
> with
> > > a Texas attorney(first visit free right?) about the traceable
> > > problem. Perhaps the attorney or you could m ake some noise to
> the
> > > rebuild company and request they pay your bill. No doubt their
> > > screwup caused it.
> > > LOL
> > > Hank Hannigan
> > > 90SP36
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > After the mechanics removed the turbo, they found the blower
> plate
> > > bolts
> > > > LOOSE!! They removed that plate to check the blower. The
> blower
> > > checked out
> > > > fine-BUT- there was NO gasket between the plate and the
> engine.
> > > So, whoever did
> > > > the inframe reman- left out the gasket. It really is rocket
> > > science!! No
> > > > wonder I have been plagued with all this oil scum. More later-
> > > Erniie-83pt40 in
> > > > Childress, Tx, for a short time, I hope
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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oil leak part 2 - Henry Jay Hannigan - 05-16-2006, 10:47
oil leak part 2 - Henry Jay Hannigan - 05-16-2006, 11:12
oil leak part 2 - George Witt - 05-16-2006, 12:18
oil leak part 2 - Henry Jay Hannigan - 05-16-2006, 12:42
oil leak part 2 - Tom Warner - 05-16-2006, 12:51
oil leak part 2 - George Witt - 05-16-2006 14:33
oil leak part 2 - john duke - 05-17-2006, 12:54



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