Water drain system on 82 FC 35

[Tom Warner]

Simply without a bypass for the hotwater heater there is no way you
can get antifreeze into the hot water lines without pressurizing
(filling it with pink stuff first) the hot water tank. Look at the BB
drawing for your fresh water system and you will see why. You have
been lucky so far. I have used the air system to blow out my FC35
every year but have always been nervous doing it. I want to make
absolutely sure that it is protected.
Tom Warner
Vernon Center,NY
1985 PT 40

2006, you wrote:

>we winterize our coach with 3-4 gallons of antifreeze
>there is a pickup installed on the supply side of fresh water pump
>avaialble at camping supply store about 10 bucks
>drain and blow out water system
>inject antifreeze with fresh water pump going to each faucet and the
>toilet individually and opening faucet or treadle till antifreeze appears
>isolate ice maker and drain
>you dont want antifreeze in ice maker
>if the fresh water tank is drained I have not found it necessaary to
>to put antifreeze in tank, Drain hot water tank and if you have a
>bypass use it
>We used to use the city water connection but it is easier to use to
>antifreeze pickup on the pump
>have not had any problems in 8 years with freeze problems in Niagara
>Falls.
>I certainly dont think you need 12 gallons of anti freeze
>Also Use Prestone rv antifreeze if you can find it does not impart the
>nasty aftertaste as the cheap pink stuff
>Antifreeze is Freeze proctection not fluid replacement
>
>Stephen
>
>--- In
>WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
>Tom Warner wrote:
> >
> > If you go thru the city water connection with antifreeze everything
> > is NOT protected unless you do the following and even then its going
> > to take a lot of antifreeze unless you bypass the hot water heater.
> >
> > 1. Activate the sporlan valve so the antifreeze will go into the
> > fresh water tank first, then after a few gallons the water pump can
> > pick it up and force it to the fixtures so when you turn on each
> > individual faucet, toilet fixture etc the line will be purged and
> > antifreeze will be added to that line. When you open a hot water
> > faucet the antifreeze will go into the hotwater tank first until it
> > is filled and then will go to each hot water line until antifreeze
> > comes out of that fixture when you open it. That is why you need a
> > bypass. If not you must pump approximately 12 gallons of antifreeze
> > into the system before you will get any distributed thru the hot
> > water pipes to the kitchen sink, bath sink and shower. Hmmmm.
> > 2. Purge the water from the instant hot and then pump antifreeze
>into it.
> >
> > 3. Pour a cup or so of antifreeze into each water trap in the sinks,
> > and shower.
> >
> > 4. Purge the water in the ice maker if you have one and then pump
> > antifreeze into it.
> >
> > Pray.
> >
> > tom warner
> > Vernon Center,NY
> > 1985 PT 40
> >
> >
> > At 02:55 PM 6/14/2006, you wrote:
> >
> > >Yes,
> > >If you go thru the city water hook-up, I think everything is
> > >protected. Rig an air compressor fitting to the city hook-up.
> > >I do not exceed 40 psi, Then rig up a pump line into the same city
> > >water hook-up, all fittings available at HomeDepot/ Hardware Store,
> > >Etc. The drain was accessable for the HWT, your 82 may be
> > >different.
> > >Drilled a hole into the floor, I think it was plywood then a steel
> > >sheeting, On our 88 Fc, if you keep drilling you are into the fuel
> > >Tank, Go carefully and slow with the drill bits.
> > >
> > >Bill 88 FC Michigan
> > >
> > >--- In
> >
> > > %40yahoogroups.com>WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
>
> > >"davidkerryedwards"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I like the idea of a drain on the hw heater. Where is the petcock
> > >for
> > > > that drain, I can't see one on mine.
> > > > I was thinking of some kind of overkill system like you use. How
> > >do
> > > > you pump in the antifreeze thru the city pressure hookup?
> > > >
> > > > Kerry
> > > >
> > > > --- In
> > >
> ps.com>WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
>
> > > "pattypape"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Kerry,
> > > > >
> > > > > On our 88 FC, there was no HWT bypass nor a HWT drain.
> > > > > All water in the pipes are drained by the internal air pressure
> > > > > system, the fresk tank drain and the outside faucet.
> > > > >
> > > > > Not trusting this method, I drilled a hole in the floor to drain
> > >the
> > > > > HWT thru the drain cockpet. I now use the BB air system to blow
> > >the
> > > > > pipes out, then use a shop compressor to blow-blow-blow more
> > >water
> > > > > out.
> > > > > Then pump in the pink the stuff, thru the city water hookup into
> > >the
> > > > > plumbing and fresh tank. Run the pump, look for pink stuff at
> > >each
> > > > > faucet, toilet etc, Then, I blow it out again. I feel this is a
> > >bit
> > > > > overkill, But inline with the entire Wanderlodge Overkill.
> > > > > We get really hard freezes and the time spent is worthwhile.
> > > > > No fresh water is added until we head South for Winter.
> > > > > Frozen pipes are always a worry, but this has worked for us.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill 88 FC Michigan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In
> > >
> ps.com>WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
>
> > > "davidkerryedwards"
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Having just repaired freeze breaks in my plumbing I'd like to
> > >get a
> > > > > > conceptual grasp of how the drain system works for the
> > >plumbing. I
> > > > > > know there's a manual drain under the vanity and an external
> > > > > faucet
> > > > > in
> > > > > > the propane compartment. I also see three cable operated
> > >valves
> > > > > near
> > > > > > the hw heater and tank in the back but I don't understand how
> > >they
> > > > > > work. How do the hot water heater and water tank drain and
> > >does
> > > > > > anyone have an easy way of retrofitting a system which gets
> > > > > antifreeze
> > > > > > into the system? Since there are no bypass fittings on the
> > >water
> > > > > > heater it seems virtually impossible to get antifreeze in the
> > >hot
> > > > > > water pipes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kerry
> > > > > >
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