Water drain system on 82 FC 35

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Hey Guys...Am I missing somethig here??

Why?...Why use antifreeze in the water system?
I know, the obvious answer is to avoid freezing, right?

I have lived in the South for 46 years and believe
me it can get cold enough to freeze water pipes here,
especially when the temp is in the teens.

I have a female hose connected to a male npt air hose
connection. I set the pressure regulator to 40 psi and
systematically drain all connections including the ice
Maker.

Hey Guys, 20 years and not a single leak.

This is on the '77, '87 says to use coach air to
remove all water, THEN use a small amount of antifreeze
in the "P" traps and holding tanks.

Why contaminate the fresh water system with "pink stuff"
that has to be flushed out later on?

I carry a portable air compressor and do the same thing
to vacant rental property in the Winter, it works!!!

Bob '87 FC35 Greenville, SC
PS: Yes, I have been in Buffalo, NY and Great Falls,MN
when it was cold enough for the moisture in the exaust
to "SNOW" on the ground. I believe it will work there too!


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape"
wrote:
>
>
> Yikes,
>
> I just love the tire debate and the winterization debate.
> Usually the Pink Stuff debate waits until Fall.
>
> I am paranoid about pipes freezing, So, I spend lots of time once
> per year to winterize, I never want to repair old, non-standard
> copper. I use 3 to 5 gallon. Hand pump into the city water hook-
> up. Use the fresh water pump, until pink runs at all outlets,
hand
> pump backwards into the faucets to purge the hot lines, I also try
> to place the mixing valves in the center, and block the faucet
> outlets, This "MAY" help the antifreeze/air pressure to back flow
> the hot lines. And Yes, there are other concerns such as Insta
Hot,
> ice maker, and more. BLow, Blow, BLow with 40 psi, it is amazing
how
> much water the system holds.
>
> I also add 235 gallons of diesel to winterize the fuel tank.
> Michigan is well below freezing in winter.
> I need all the inputs and everyone ideas, then one must
> decide what is relative to our own situation.
>
>
> Bill 88 FC Randy does not understand the freeze topic.
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Birtles"
> wrote:
> >
> > Luck has squat to do with it
> > you dont have to fill the hot water tank to freeze protect the
> system
> > In the same vein do you have to completely fill the fresh water
> tank
> > with anti freeze to protect it?
> > the answer is no
> > The system is a demand type system it uses the available liquid
to
> > flush the system no liquid no pressure it is not necessary to
fill
> the
> > hot water tank with anti freeze to protect the system.
> > It is a waste of money but if you want to use that much anti
> freeze be
> > my guest
> > If the system is drained and replaced with anti freeze It is
simply
> > not necessary to use a "minimum of 12 gallons" to protect your
> system
> > Iam sure you could always ask a rv tech to show you economical
and
> > proper to freeze protect your water system
> > They will be more than happy to sell you 12 gallons of
antifreeze
> when
> > 3-4 will adequately do the job
> > Stephen 77fc35
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Simply without a bypass for the hotwater heater there is no
way
> you
> > > can get antifreeze into the hot water lines without
pressurizing
> > > (filling it with pink stuff first) the hot water tank. Look at
> the BB
> > > drawing for your fresh water system and you will see why. You
> have
> > > been lucky so far. I have used the air system to blow out my
> FC35
> > > every year but have always been nervous doing it. I want to
make
> > > absolutely sure that it is protected.
> > > Tom Warner
> > > Vernon Center,NY
> > > 1985 PT 40
> > >
> > > 2006, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >we winterize our coach with 3-4 gallons of antifreeze
> > > >there is a pickup installed on the supply side of fresh water
> pump
> > > >avaialble at camping supply store about 10 bucks
> > > >drain and blow out water system
> > > >inject antifreeze with fresh water pump going to each faucet
> and the
> > > >toilet individually and opening faucet or treadle till
> antifreeze
> > appears
> > > >isolate ice maker and drain
> > > >you dont want antifreeze in ice maker
> > > >if the fresh water tank is drained I have not found it
> necessaary to
> > > >to put antifreeze in tank, Drain hot water tank and if you
have
> a
> > > >bypass use it
> > > >We used to use the city water connection but it is easier to
> use to
> > > >antifreeze pickup on the pump
> > > >have not had any problems in 8 years with freeze problems in
> Niagara
> > > >Falls.
> > > >I certainly dont think you need 12 gallons of anti freeze
> > > >Also Use Prestone rv antifreeze if you can find it does not
> impart the
> > > >nasty aftertaste as the cheap pink stuff
> > > >Antifreeze is Freeze proctection not fluid replacement
> > > >
> > > >Stephen
> > > >
> > > >--- In
> > >
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com>WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> >
> > > >Tom Warner wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > If you go thru the city water connection with antifreeze
> everything
> > > > > is NOT protected unless you do the following and even then
> its going
> > > > > to take a lot of antifreeze unless you bypass the hot
water
> heater.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Activate the sporlan valve so the antifreeze will go
into
> the
> > > > > fresh water tank first, then after a few gallons the water
> pump can
> > > > > pick it up and force it to the fixtures so when you turn
on
> each
> > > > > individual faucet, toilet fixture etc the line will be
> purged and
> > > > > antifreeze will be added to that line. When you open a hot
> water
> > > > > faucet the antifreeze will go into the hotwater tank first
> until it
> > > > > is filled and then will go to each hot water line until
> antifreeze
> > > > > comes out of that fixture when you open it. That is why
you
> need a
> > > > > bypass. If not you must pump approximately 12 gallons of
> antifreeze
> > > > > into the system before you will get any distributed thru
the
> hot
> > > > > water pipes to the kitchen sink, bath sink and shower.
Hmmmm.
> > > > > 2. Purge the water from the instant hot and then pump
> antifreeze
> > > >into it.
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. Pour a cup or so of antifreeze into each water trap in
> the sinks,
> > > > > and shower.
> > > > >
> > > > > 4. Purge the water in the ice maker if you have one and
then
> pump
> > > > > antifreeze into it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Pray.
> > > > >
> > > > > tom warner
> > > > > Vernon Center,NY
> > > > > 1985 PT 40
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At 02:55 PM 6/14/2006, you wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Yes,
> > > > > >If you go thru the city water hook-up, I think everything
is
> > > > > >protected. Rig an air compressor fitting to the city hook-
> up.
> > > > > >I do not exceed 40 psi, Then rig up a pump line into the
> same city
> > > > > >water hook-up, all fittings available at HomeDepot/
> Hardware Store,
> > > > > >Etc. The drain was accessable for the HWT, your 82 may be
> > > > > >different.
> > > > > >Drilled a hole into the floor, I think it was plywood
then
> a steel
> > > > > >sheeting, On our 88 Fc, if you keep drilling you are into
> the fuel
> > > > > >Tank, Go carefully and slow with the drill bits.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Bill 88 FC Michigan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--- In
> > > > >
> > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com> > > > > %40yahoogroups.com>WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> > > >
> > > > > >"davidkerryedwards"
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I like the idea of a drain on the hw heater. Where is
the
> > petcock
> > > > > >for
> > > > > > > that drain, I can't see one on mine.
> > > > > > > I was thinking of some kind of overkill system like
you
> use. How
> > > > > >do
> > > > > > > you pump in the antifreeze thru the city pressure
hookup?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kerry
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com> > 40yahoogroups.com>WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> > > >
> > > > > > "pattypape"
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kerry,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On our 88 FC, there was no HWT bypass nor a HWT
drain.
> > > > > > > > All water in the pipes are drained by the internal
air
> > pressure
> > > > > > > > system, the fresk tank drain and the outside faucet.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Not trusting this method, I drilled a hole in the
> floor to
> > drain
> > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > HWT thru the drain cockpet. I now use the BB air
> system to
> > blow
> > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > pipes out, then use a shop compressor to blow-blow-
> blow more
> > > > > >water
> > > > > > > > out.
> > > > > > > > Then pump in the pink the stuff, thru the city water
> > hookup into
> > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > plumbing and fresh tank. Run the pump, look for pink
> stuff at
> > > > > >each
> > > > > > > > faucet, toilet etc, Then, I blow it out again. I
feel
> this
> > is a
> > > > > >bit
> > > > > > > > overkill, But inline with the entire Wanderlodge
> Overkill.
> > > > > > > > We get really hard freezes and the time spent is
> worthwhile.
> > > > > > > > No fresh water is added until we head South for
Winter.
> > > > > > > > Frozen pipes are always a worry, but this has worked
> for us.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Bill 88 FC Michigan
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In
> > > > > >
> > >
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com> > 40yahoogroups.com>WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> > > >
> > > > > > "davidkerryedwards"
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Having just repaired freeze breaks in my plumbing
I'd
> > like to
> > > > > >get a
> > > > > > > > > conceptual grasp of how the drain system works for
> the
> > > > > >plumbing. I
> > > > > > > > > know there's a manual drain under the vanity and
an
> external
> > > > > > > > faucet
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > the propane compartment. I also see three cable
> operated
> > > > > >valves
> > > > > > > > near
> > > > > > > > > the hw heater and tank in the back but I don't
> > understand how
> > > > > >they
> > > > > > > > > work. How do the hot water heater and water tank
> drain and
> > > > > >does
> > > > > > > > > anyone have an easy way of retrofitting a system
> which gets
> > > > > > > > antifreeze
> > > > > > > > > into the system? Since there are no bypass
fittings
> on the
> > > > > >water
> > > > > > > > > heater it seems virtually impossible to get
> antifreeze
> > in the
> > > > > >hot
> > > > > > > > > water pipes.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Kerry
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