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Generator Won't Start?
06-24-2006, 04:48
Post: #27
Generator Won't Start?
the only thing that I can think of is that I might have turned the
gen off the last time it was running by using the disconnect switch
(which is to the ground)
It sat a week and then would not start.

I have three on/off stations dash,kitchen,gen control box but I will
check to see if one is stuck

the ceramic fuse may not have actually blown but I replaced it
anyway with a like rated fuse and I just checked it and it is ok

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "one_dusty_hoot"
wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> While you are checking for fuel there are a couple clues
> you gave that may need to be explored.
>
> It was running, started 10 times, tried won't start.
> Did you so ANYTHING to the genset between the time you
> stopped the generator till the time you tried again?
>
> Do you remember what station you depressed the switch
> to stop?
> Sometimes these rocker switches will stick (mine has) in
> the OFF position. Should any station be stuck in the off
> position and you are trying another it won't start. Just
> to be sure rock them all back and forth stopping on the
> center.
>
> You said in an earlier post the the fuse blew a "couple"
> months ago and you replaced it.
> Fused circuits are sized for normal load plus momentary
> overload protection. If say, you replaced this fuse with
> a much larger size the circuit may have given up the ghost,
> even if you placed a known good fuse in the holder. Just
> the blown fuse alone suggests that SOMETHING??is not quite
> right.
>
> Bob
> not quite right in that circuit.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Meister"
> <mike.meister@> wrote:
> >
> > the fuel solenoid arm is moving and if I pull it it actually
> > chokes/restricts the start effort.
> >
> > will check fuel now and report back
> >
> > thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > > Outside the voltage issue Curt mentioned, manually pulling the
> fuel
> > > solenoid arm should have started it - if you are getting
fuel.
> > Have
> > > you checked to see if you are getting fuel pressure at the
output
> > side
> > > of the lift pump? Also check all the fuel line fittings to
make
> > sure
> > > you don't have an air leak. Doesn't take much of a leak on a
> older
> > > weaker lift pump to not get fuel to the injector pump. Spent
> hours
> > > chasing the problem on my 83 PT40 before I checked the fuel
> > pressure
> > > and changed out the lift pump.
> > >
> > > Mike Bulriss
> > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > > San Antonio, TX
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Meister"
> > > <mike.meister@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Tom-
> > > > It turns over great just won't catch. I pulled the fuel
> solenoid
> > > > lever as I tried to start but no go. doesn't appear the fuel
> > > > solenoid/arm is moving when I hit the start button? I don't
see
> > a
> > > > circuit breaker on the control box but the fuse is good
inside
> > the
> > > > box....
> > > >
> > > > thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 80fc33
> > > > Taylor Mill, Ky
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner

> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Its not clear what you mean by "it wont start". Does it
try
> to
> > > > start
> > > > > and then shut off or just never catch on? f the engine
turns
> > over
> > > > at
> > > > > a normal speed but wont start then hold in the fuel
solenoid
> > lever
> > > > > and see if it starts. If it does then that eliminates the
> fuel
> > > > > problems. I would next look if the fuel solenoid is
pulling
> > in.
> > > > If
> > > > > its not then check on the front of the control box and see
if
> > the
> > > > > circuit breaker is off.
> > > > >
> > > > > tom warner
> > > > > Vernon center,NY
> > > > > 1985 PT 40
> > > > >
> > > > > At 10:50 PM 6/20/2006, you wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >I am no expert on gensets either. However, I know this for
> > > > > >certain. If I could place wheels on the crankshaft of a
> diesel
> > > > > >engine, could feed it fuel without battery power and
could
> > push it
> > > > > >down a hill to start it, the engine will run until the
> > coolant
> > > > runs
> > > > > >out, the fuel runs out or it blows itself up. That being
> > said,
> > > > there
> > > > > >is an external electrical issue to this problem. I think
we
> > need
> > > > > >more feedback and think simple.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Thanks,
> > > > > >Leroy Eckert
> > > > > >1990 WB-40
> > > > > >Niceville, FL
> > > > > >
> > > > > >- In
> > > > > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > >Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From my experience. I'm no expert.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Some gen. sets alternators create component voltage
> > (voltage to
> > > > > > > components) at start time in order for the gen. engine
to
> > > > start. No
> > > > > > > voltage could be the problem you are experiencing. I
> > suggest
> > > > taking
> > > > > >your
> > > > > > > bus to a good generator shop and have the gen. set
> tested.
> > > > Maybe
> > > > > >the
> > > > > > > voltage regulator is bad.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One day our gen. set would start right up. The next
time
> > it
> > > > would
> > > > > >turn
> > > > > > > over but it would not start. I had to replace the
> > alternator
> > > > > >because on
> > > > > > > initial start it would not create the voltage
necessary
> > for the
> > > > > >unit to
> > > > > > > start up. The large windings were bad due to sitting
> (lack
> > of
> > > > use).
> > > > > >Our
> > > > > > > gen. set was the Yanmar engine and Kohler alternator.
The
> > > > Kohler
> > > > > > > alternator was the problem and it was replaced with a
> > Newage
> > > > unit.
> > > > > >I
> > > > > > > hope your problem is not the same.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Good luck.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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Messages In This Thread
Generator Won't Start? - Mike Meister - 06-18-2006, 05:29
Generator Won't Start? - Tom Warner - 06-18-2006, 06:10
Generator Won't Start? - John Suter - 06-18-2006, 10:17
Generator Won't Start? - Mike Meister - 06-19-2006, 02:34
Generator Won't Start? - Leroy Eckert - 06-19-2006, 14:07
Generator Won't Start? - Leroy Eckert - 06-19-2006, 14:15
Generator Won't Start? - Curt Sprenger - 06-20-2006, 02:24
Generator Won't Start? - jwasnewski - 06-20-2006, 14:50
Generator Won't Start? - Curt Sprenger - 06-20-2006, 16:02
Generator Won't Start? - Tom Warner - 06-20-2006, 16:19
Generator Won't Start? - Leroy Eckert - 06-22-2006, 13:53
Generator Won't Start? - Leroy Eckert - 06-22-2006, 13:59
Generator Won't Start? - one_dusty_hoot - 06-22-2006, 14:54
Generator Won't Start? - Curt Sprenger - 06-22-2006, 15:09
Generator Won't Start? - jwasnewski - 06-23-2006, 11:07
Generator Won't Start? - mbulriss - 06-23-2006, 11:48
Generator Won't Start? - Curt Sprenger - 06-23-2006, 12:44
Generator Won't Start? - Curt Sprenger - 06-23-2006, 13:19
Generator Won't Start? - Mike Meister - 06-23-2006, 13:46
Generator Won't Start? - jwasnewski - 06-23-2006, 13:52
Generator Won't Start? - Mike Meister - 06-24-2006, 02:37
Generator Won't Start? - mbulriss - 06-24-2006, 02:55
Generator Won't Start? - Gregory OConnor - 06-24-2006, 03:04
Generator Won't Start? - Mike Meister - 06-24-2006, 03:37
Generator Won't Start? - mbulriss - 06-24-2006, 04:12
Generator Won't Start? - one_dusty_hoot - 06-24-2006, 04:22
Generator Won't Start? - Mike Meister - 06-24-2006 04:48
Generator Won't Start? - one_dusty_hoot - 06-24-2006, 05:14
Generator Won't Start? - Tom Warner - 06-24-2006, 05:40
Generator Won't Start? - one_dusty_hoot - 06-24-2006, 06:04
Generator Won't Start? - one_dusty_hoot - 06-24-2006, 06:34
Generator Won't Start? - Mike Meister - 06-24-2006, 06:45
Generator Won't Start? - Mike Meister - 06-24-2006, 06:47
Generator Won't Start? - Mike Meister - 06-24-2006, 07:44
Generator Won't Start? - Mike Meister - 06-24-2006, 08:27
Generator Won't Start? - Gregory OConnor - 06-24-2006, 09:22
Generator Won't Start? - one_dusty_hoot - 06-24-2006, 10:04
Generator Won't Start? - Gregory OConnor - 06-25-2006, 03:25



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