Generator Won't Start?

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I called Mike to find out he had a 4 cyl gas genset.
Told him about the checking the spark and using some
starter fluid. He has since tried that without results.
Any ideas?, Timing issue?
Maybe flooded, he said he smelled gas, pull the plugs and
clean them, try again?

Bob, chewing up and swallowing my diesel check list.

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
wrote:
>
> Gas???? a gas is shut down by removing spark not fuel. cutting off
> fuel may cause a backfire. sounds like a timing advance issue now.
> Greg
> Gas is for farting
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Meister"
> <mike.meister@> wrote:
> >
> > OK-
> > FYI- I have a 4cyl gas Kohler.
> > good spark to each cylinder and good fuel flow through the filter
> > (pass the electric cutoff valve) to the carb.
> >
> > tried a little starter fluid and still no go.
> >
> > Mike
> > 80fc33
> > Taylor Mill, Ky
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Meister"
> > <mike.meister@> wrote:
> > >
> > > No red button. I smell gas but I will crack one of the lines
and
> > > see if anything coming out.
> > >
> > > hold...
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Isnt there a red button on the front or the generator control
> > box
> > > > that can be pushed in to reset? If not and you have
actually
> > > pulled
> > > > back on the lever in front of the fuel solenoid that connects
> > > > directly tothe injection pump and it wont start then I have
to
> > > > believe it is a fuel problem. Is it getting fuel when it is
> > > turning
> > > > over? Verify this by cracking one of the injector lines at
the
> > > fuel
> > > > injector and see if fuel weeps out of it. If not then you
are
> > not
> > > > getting fuel to the injector pump. Have you replaced the fuel
> > > filter
> > > > by any chance?
> > > >
> > > > tom
> > > >
> > > > At 10:37 AM 6/24/2006, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Tom-
> > > > >It turns over great just won't catch. I pulled the fuel
> solenoid
> > > > >lever as I tried to start but no go. doesn't appear the fuel
> > > > >solenoid/arm is moving when I hit the start button? I don't
> see
> > a
> > > > >circuit breaker on the control box but the fuse is good
inside
> > the
> > > > >box....
> > > > >
> > > > >thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > > >Mike
> > > > >80fc33
> > > > >Taylor Mill, Ky
> > > > >
> > > > >--- In
> > > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > >Tom Warner
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Its not clear what you mean by "it wont start". Does it
try
> > to
> > > > >start
> > > > > > and then shut off or just never catch on? f the engine
> turns
> > > over
> > > > >at
> > > > > > a normal speed but wont start then hold in the fuel
> solenoid
> > > lever
> > > > > > and see if it starts. If it does then that eliminates the
> > fuel
> > > > > > problems. I would next look if the fuel solenoid is
pulling
> > in.
> > > > >If
> > > > > > its not then check on the front of the control box and
see
> > if
> > > the
> > > > > > circuit breaker is off.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > tom warner
> > > > > > Vernon center,NY
> > > > > > 1985 PT 40
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 10:50 PM 6/20/2006, you wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >I am no expert on gensets either. However, I know this
for
> > > > > > >certain. If I could place wheels on the crankshaft of a
> > diesel
> > > > > > >engine, could feed it fuel without battery power and
could
> > > push it
> > > > > > >down a hill to start it, the engine will run until the
> > coolant
> > > > >runs
> > > > > > >out, the fuel runs out or it blows itself up. That being
> > said,
> > > > >there
> > > > > > >is an external electrical issue to this problem. I think
> we
> > > need
> > > > > > >more feedback and think simple.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Thanks,
> > > > > > >Leroy Eckert
> > > > > > >1990 WB-40
> > > > > > >Niceville, FL
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >- In
> > > > > > > > > > > >40yahoogroups.com> > > > 40yahoogroups.com>WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > >
> > > > > > >Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mike,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From my experience. I'm no expert.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Some gen. sets alternators create component voltage
> > > (voltage to
> > > > > > > > components) at start time in order for the gen.
engine
> to
> > > > >start. No
> > > > > > > > voltage could be the problem you are experiencing. I
> > > suggest
> > > > >taking
> > > > > > >your
> > > > > > > > bus to a good generator shop and have the gen. set
> > tested.
> > > > >Maybe
> > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > voltage regulator is bad.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > One day our gen. set would start right up. The next
> time
> > it
> > > > >would
> > > > > > >turn
> > > > > > > > over but it would not start. I had to replace the
> > > alternator
> > > > > > >because on
> > > > > > > > initial start it would not create the voltage
necessary
> > > for the
> > > > > > >unit to
> > > > > > > > start up. The large windings were bad due to sitting
> > (lack
> > > of
> > > > >use).
> > > > > > >Our
> > > > > > > > gen. set was the Yanmar engine and Kohler alternator.
> The
> > > > >Kohler
> > > > > > > > alternator was the problem and it was replaced with a
> > > Newage
> > > > >unit.
> > > > > > >I
> > > > > > > > hope your problem is not the same.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Good luck.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif.
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