Generator Won't Start?

[Gregory OConnor]

Mike, things like a loose cap or too much gooey grease on the point
cam or distributor weight springs will make it hard to start. Like
plug wires (that fail with age even without use), ignition coil is
also a replaceable maintenance item often overlooked. After-market
coils and wires have disappointed me in the past.

If your bus was ever owned by a 'pressurewasher engindegreeser clean
freak,' chances are the grease in the distributor lost its oil and
turned to wax, the coil lost its seal and went bad plug wires are
cracked and all the sealed bearing in your bus are dry. Spraying wd40
and other things at the points will wash the oil out of the grease
also.

I soak gunky things in light oil (diesel fuel) to thin out the bond,
agitate it with a parts brush and wash it off with hot water and
laundry soap.
Gregory O'Connor
94pt Romoland Ca
"pressurewashers are for decks and patios"

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "one_dusty_hoot"
wrote:
>
> I called Mike to find out he had a 4 cyl gas genset.
> Told him about the checking the spark and using some
> starter fluid. He has since tried that without results.
> Any ideas?, Timing issue?
> Maybe flooded, he said he smelled gas, pull the plugs and
> clean them, try again?
>
> Bob, chewing up and swallowing my diesel check list.
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
> wrote:
> >
> > Gas???? a gas is shut down by removing spark not fuel. cutting
off
> > fuel may cause a backfire. sounds like a timing advance issue now.
> > Greg
> > Gas is for farting
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Meister"
> > <mike.meister@> wrote:
> > >
> > > OK-
> > > FYI- I have a 4cyl gas Kohler.
> > > good spark to each cylinder and good fuel flow through the
filter
> > > (pass the electric cutoff valve) to the carb.
> > >
> > > tried a little starter fluid and still no go.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 80fc33
> > > Taylor Mill, Ky
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Meister"
> > > <mike.meister@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > No red button. I smell gas but I will crack one of the lines
> and
> > > > see if anything coming out.
> > > >
> > > > hold...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner

> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Isnt there a red button on the front or the generator
control
> > > box
> > > > > that can be pushed in to reset? If not and you have
> actually
> > > > pulled
> > > > > back on the lever in front of the fuel solenoid that
connects
> > > > > directly tothe injection pump and it wont start then I have
> to
> > > > > believe it is a fuel problem. Is it getting fuel when it is
> > > > turning
> > > > > over? Verify this by cracking one of the injector lines at
> the
> > > > fuel
> > > > > injector and see if fuel weeps out of it. If not then you
> are
> > > not
> > > > > getting fuel to the injector pump. Have you replaced the
fuel
> > > > filter
> > > > > by any chance?
> > > > >
> > > > > tom
> > > > >
> > > > > At 10:37 AM 6/24/2006, you wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Tom-
> > > > > >It turns over great just won't catch. I pulled the fuel
> > solenoid
> > > > > >lever as I tried to start but no go. doesn't appear the
fuel
> > > > > >solenoid/arm is moving when I hit the start button? I
don't
> > see
> > > a
> > > > > >circuit breaker on the control box but the fuse is good
> inside
> > > the
> > > > > >box....
> > > > > >
> > > > > >thoughts?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Mike
> > > > > >80fc33
> > > > > >Taylor Mill, Ky
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--- In
> > > > > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > >Tom Warner
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Its not clear what you mean by "it wont start". Does it
> try
> > > to
> > > > > >start
> > > > > > > and then shut off or just never catch on? f the engine
> > turns
> > > > over
> > > > > >at
> > > > > > > a normal speed but wont start then hold in the fuel
> > solenoid
> > > > lever
> > > > > > > and see if it starts. If it does then that eliminates
the
> > > fuel
> > > > > > > problems. I would next look if the fuel solenoid is
> pulling
> > > in.
> > > > > >If
> > > > > > > its not then check on the front of the control box and
> see
> > > if
> > > > the
> > > > > > > circuit breaker is off.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > tom warner
> > > > > > > Vernon center,NY
> > > > > > > 1985 PT 40
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > At 10:50 PM 6/20/2006, you wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I am no expert on gensets either. However, I know this
> for
> > > > > > > >certain. If I could place wheels on the crankshaft of
a
> > > diesel
> > > > > > > >engine, could feed it fuel without battery power and
> could
> > > > push it
> > > > > > > >down a hill to start it, the engine will run until the
> > > coolant
> > > > > >runs
> > > > > > > >out, the fuel runs out or it blows itself up. That
being
> > > said,
> > > > > >there
> > > > > > > >is an external electrical issue to this problem. I
think
> > we
> > > > need
> > > > > > > >more feedback and think simple.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Thanks,
> > > > > > > >Leroy Eckert
> > > > > > > >1990 WB-40
> > > > > > > >Niceville, FL
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >- In
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >40yahoogroups.com> > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Curt Sprenger
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Mike,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From my experience. I'm no expert.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Some gen. sets alternators create component voltage
> > > > (voltage to
> > > > > > > > > components) at start time in order for the gen.
> engine
> > to
> > > > > >start. No
> > > > > > > > > voltage could be the problem you are experiencing.
I
> > > > suggest
> > > > > >taking
> > > > > > > >your
> > > > > > > > > bus to a good generator shop and have the gen. set
> > > tested.
> > > > > >Maybe
> > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > voltage regulator is bad.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > One day our gen. set would start right up. The next
> > time
> > > it
> > > > > >would
> > > > > > > >turn
> > > > > > > > > over but it would not start. I had to replace the
> > > > alternator
> > > > > > > >because on
> > > > > > > > > initial start it would not create the voltage
> necessary
> > > > for the
> > > > > > > >unit to
> > > > > > > > > start up. The large windings were bad due to
sitting
> > > (lack
> > > > of
> > > > > >use).
> > > > > > > >Our
> > > > > > > > > gen. set was the Yanmar engine and Kohler
alternator.
> > The
> > > > > >Kohler
> > > > > > > > > alternator was the problem and it was replaced with
a
> > > > Newage
> > > > > >unit.
> > > > > > > >I
> > > > > > > > > hope your problem is not the same.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Good luck.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif.
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