FC Generator Compartment Walls

[Stephen Birtles]

please provide spec sheets for this product and I will do the same
if you want the same composite you expound about it can be built. Soundown
is nothing more than a marketing company to sell this product.
Judging by their website they source and sell product in a value added
fashion
I am sure that you should post this on the forum instead of hiding it in a
private off forum email. I stand behind all he product I sell and as
stated
before I sell for the cost of expenses to Bluebird Owners as a service
not a
livelihood
And I have stated to the groups and to you also the composition of this
product in previous posts. If you want the exact chemical composition
including MSDS sheets of this product I will be more than happy to provide
them and I am sure you will do the same

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Warner [mailto:warbucks@...]
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:36 AM
To: Stephen Birtles
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: FC Generator Compartment Walls

Stephen we have talked about this before but you never explained to
the group (or me) exactly what kind of composite you have, at least I
dont remember that you did. These composites are not all the same
and from my perspective it would be a shame for a forum member to
install a composite only to find out they are not getting the noise
suppression they wanted or they have spent the money for. In addition
its a lot of work to do the doghouse and the generator compartment,
been there done that on 2 coaches soon to be 3.

If you want the highest attenuation you should use 2" thick 2# per
square foot composite with lead separator on the dog house on the FC
models and 1" thick 2# per sq foot in the generator compartment. The
next best is 1# per sq foot composite with a lead separator and
then vinyl separators are below those for attenuation. I believe
that is what you sell.

Point I am making is that forum members should know exactly what you
are selling as far as the specifications. Then let them decide. I
have no dog in this fight and do not intend to comment on what you
are selling on the forum. Is that fair enough? I had a contract with
soundown to buy their composite because I believe it is the best one
on the market. http://www.soundown.com Since I am not interested in
selling things to the BB community there is no reason you cannot sell
their composites and other materials such as carpet underlayment to
forum members. I would advise you to at least consider soundown.



tom warner

At 10:24 AM 10/22/2006, you wrote:

>you forgot to mention Capeinnovation also has composite insulation but
>thats okay
>
>Stephen 77fc35
>








--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner wrote:
>
> I am going to make an exception because I believe this is so
> important. Do not use LIZARD SKIN on your
> doghouse or generator compartment. It is a wonderful material when
> used as an INSULATOR however it does absolutely nothing for the real
> problem caused by a diesel engine running in close proximity to the
> driving compartment....NOISE! To reduce noise you need a composite
> insulation that combines both a heat shield and a sound suppressor.
> To do this effectively, that is to attenuate the specific kinds of
> radiated noise that diesels put out, you need a 2# per sq foot
> composite foam insulation which contains a lead as a separator
> between the two densities of foam. There is also the same composite
> that uses a heavy vinyl separator and it does work but at a reduced
> There are several companies that sell this including http://www.soundown.com
> however JC Whitney is NOT one of them. If you decide to do it on the
> cheap that is of course your efficiency. The choice is yours but if
> you want to really reduce the noise and the heat then use the correct
> product. Lizard skin is a ceramic insulator and is not suitable for
this job.
>
> Tom Warner
> Vernon Center, NY
> 1985 PT 40
>
> you need At 10:43 AM 10/21/2006, you wrote:
> >---Scott:
> >If u need new insulation...suggest u consider "LIZARD SKIN" it is a
> >space age product that I painted on the doghouse of my 80FC31 and it
> >is a ceramic heat/sound shield.........I think it is great..and about
> >the same price of two lead/sponge shields that I bought at Marine
> >store for my 90SP36........I would rather have the "LIZARD SKIN."
> >Check it out on the net.
> >Regards,
> >Hank Hannigan
> >80FC31...creampuff for sale in Vegas for $30,000 now!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> >wrote:
> > >
> > > What are they made of? Kryptonite?
> > >
> > > I am trying to thread some self-tapping screws into the "ceiling" of
> > > the compartment to secure my insulation that keeps sagging
> >regardless
> > > of the amount of adhesive I apply. Anyone have any tips? I can't
> >seem
> > > to get anything to penetrate.
> > >
> > > Scott Forman
> > > 82 FC35RB
> > > Memphis
> > >
>