Cold Weather Plumbing

[Terry Neal]

Thanks Chuck for your experience & help. Sounds like a good plan & if I
can get some heat into those runs with a fan, then I think that should
work. May wind up adding a small diesel fired heater with heat
exchanger to circulate everything & add heat to the interior of the
coach through the existing engine fed heaters.

Terry Neal
Bozeman, MT
82PT40
74FC34



Chuck Wheeler wrote:

> It seems like Kathy and are in cold weather a lot and many times dry
> camping. I hated to waste water getting hot water to the shower so I
> routed
> a return line from the shower back to the water heater. I then placed a
> relay on the pressure control switch of the primary pump to control both
> pumps. If the primary pump is running the recirculation pump is off. If
> pressure is up and the primary pump shuts off then the recirculation pump
> runs. When you turn the pump switch on before stepping into the shower you
> have instant hot water. It works well for it's intended purpose to
> conserve
> water but I don't believe that it would keep the cold water side from
> freezing.
>
> - Chuck Wheeler -
> 82 FC 31 SB
> Fort Worth, TX
>
>
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> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
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> ] On Behalf Of Terry Neal
> Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 11:50 PM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
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> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Cold Weather Plumbing
>
> Hi Stephen,
>
> How are you? Staying warm up North I hope.
>
> How would a recirculating pump on the hot water line (at the end)
> pumping the hot water back to the water heater itself work? I'm
> thinking another Groco 12 volt pump with a switch to turn it on/off when
> needed. Like the ones used in residential construction so that you have
> instant hot water at all faucets all the time? I think that would be a
> good solution. My system needs to be usable down to -20 or -30 & on
> shore power or generator. With enough insulation & keeping the water
> moving, that may be the answer?
>
> Terry Neal
> Bozeman, MT
> 82PT40
> 74FC34
>
> Stephen Birtles wrote:
>
> > for that to work successfully you have to have a hot return from the
> > farthest faucet requires another pump but can be done succesfully and
> > only works when faucet is running
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@
> yahoogroups.com
> > , Wilhelmus Schreurs
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Ernie:
> > > What about having your hot and cold water lines together,insulated
> > in a blanket or something like that, and then circulate the hotwater
> > throughout the hot water lines? That way you would not require the
> > heat tape or forced air fans.
> > >
> > > Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
> > > Terrace, B.C. Canada
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: "erniecarpet@..."
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@
> yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2006 6:04:42 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Cold Weather Plumbing
> > >
> > > Installing a bypass and injecting antifreeze in all the pipes might
> > be well
> > > suited to folks that do not use their coach in the winter. Since we
> > live
> > > further south of the deep freeze, we use ours year round. in fact, I
> > guess i could
> > > have considered myself a fulltimer as I was in the coach 10 months
> this
> > > year.
> > > What I was trying to get across, and hopefully I can this time. I
> > would like
> > > to be able to stay up in Montana longer- that is if I had a good
> > system in
> > > place where my water wouldn't freeze if it got to be zero outside
> for a
> > > prolonged time.
> > > Is heat tape the ONLY solution that is on the market?
> > > It would be nice if there were small heaters- not noisy hair dryers
> > that
> > > could operate and send warm air down the side runs of the coach.
> > > On my coach, the chassis heater lines do not run down the fresh
> > water runs-
> > > thus I couldn't use those. By the way, my chassis heaters saved our
> > butts
> > > driving home.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ernie Ekberg
> > > 83PT40
> > > Weatherford, tx
> > >
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