eBay83 FC for 50k

[Doug Engel]

OK, I'll jump in...
I sell a fair amout of stuff on Ebay, it is a garage sale marketplace as far
as I'm concerned. I have sold everything from old service station signage to
Porsches, a 1988 BMW M5, motorcycles of a variety of flavors and the list could
go on. I purchased my 1978 GMC Palm Beach off of Ebay and originally found Pokey
there (by the way, the opening bid on Pokey was 20K, no one ever made an opening
bid, it didn't sell through Ebay). I like and dislike Ebay, but I have NEVER had
an Ebay sale bring top of the market, and I've sold some nice stuff. I haven't
monitored EVERY sale...but it has not been my experience that Ebay is the place
to get the most out of a sale. Are there often schill bidders, yes. Do auctions
often end early with a buyer who originally found the item on Ebay and then
works out a purchase outside of the auction, yes. Is this OK, yes. Do winning
bidders often fail to complete a purchase, you bet! My point is, Ebay is a great
selling tool, but unlike any
other I have dealt with, I take everything on there, vehicle descriptions (and
I agree that this Bird is far nicer than most, at least from the picures) and
selling prices with a grain of salt.
One point that has not been touched on is that to sell a vehicle for another
person really requires a dealers license. It does in Colorado and I am nearly
positive that it does in Texas as well. I bought a car on Ebay that was being
sold by one person and actually owned by another, it was a mess. Not that this
situation will be, but who are you actually buying the car from? Ebay does not
regulate if sellers have dealers licenses, it's not their job, but selling a car
for another person without a license is against the law in most states, it is
that way to protect the buyer, it's why I have to carry a bond. Just a word to
the wise...
Is the Rig nice? Sure looks like it! Was it misrepresented, not that I know
of. Was the activity on this forum part of an orchestrated marketing plan,
maybe, but while this is not the place for that, I don't blame them for trying.
Is that rig worth 30K more than Pokey...not in my book. In reality, items for
sale are only worth, in real dollars, what someone else is willing to pay, so if
the sale goes through, the rig was worth the 50K+...to someone.
It will be interesting to see if it resurfaces for sale someplace else for
sale, seems to be alot of eyes watching.
Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO, 1981 FC35SB "Pokey"


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> We did not do anything to misrepresent this coach in any way.....

Hmmmmmm, I re-read my comments and I see nothing that implies that you
mis-represented anything. Anything you are reading into it is of your
own making.

I repeat: $50K is top of the market for what appears to be an original
83 FC (actually beyond top of the market IMO). More power to you -
sincerely. Since it was an eBay auction, where many 'sales' never
actually materialize, I do hope the money arrives. My real hope would
be that it might actually signal a turn around for the entire Bird
market, but I don't really believe that.

As regards hype, you and thee owner both joined the forum about a week
ago and immediately begin posting about the eBay sale listing. To me,
that is hype. Hype can be good or bad, but it's still hype and
working the market. It appears to have worked for you guys.

Since you and the owner both seem to have significant BB experience, I
do sincerely hope you will both stick around and contribute to the
discussion of Bird maintenance, now that the sale is over.

In the meantime, we appreciate real signatures and locations on our
posts rather than anonymous pseudonyms. And please re-read the forum
front page rules on post contents.

Merry Christmas to all.

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX (current location - South Padre Island)

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "GRSmith, 111"
wrote:
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> We did not do anything to misrepresent this coach in any way.....
trust me..... It's an incredible coach...... believe it or not.......
and I have a 1988 .... that is almost as clean as this one with only
114K miles..... super service & maintenance all it's life.... garage
kept for 13 years....... PT 40 ..... awesome.... trying to
decide...... getting in to the charter coach business..... LORD
WILLING.... pray for me...... YOu guys are great.... Crusademan
>
> mbulriss <mbulriss@...> wrote: What a incredible Christmas
present for that seller. That certainly
> is top of the market. Hope the money shows up.
>
> At that price it sure makes my prior 83PT40 (Stagecoach) seem
> incredibly cheap at the current owner's asking price of $43,000.
> hmmmmm...... hype pays off, I guess.
>
> Since they just joined the forum last week to promote the sale, now we
> get to see if the seller 'Ole Tom' and the marketer 'Crusademan' stick
> around to participate on the forum, or unsubscribe now that the sale
> is done.......... Hopefully, they will stick around and share some of
> Ole Tom's repair and upkeep tips.
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX (currently on South Padre Island)
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "dthollis1961"
> wrote:
> >
> > Merry Christmas!!!
> >
> > David Hollis 84 FC35 Springfield,IL
> >
>
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