eBay83 FC for 50k

[Doug Engel]

To Bob and all,
I always appreciate a heads up on things that I am interested in that are
for sale, or just available for viewing. It's a good way to stay up with market
values and I am always looking for my next "favorite" thing (much to the dismay
of my wife). No finger pointing intended by my post, just some random thoughts.
Best Wishes to all, Doug n' Pokey


one_dusty_hoot wrote:
Doug said, "Was the activity on this forum part
of an orchestrated marketing plan, maybe, but
while this is not the place for that, I don't blame
them for trying"
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I was the person who initially brought this coach
to the attention of the forum simply because of
how nice it appeared to me and wanted to share.

I have no past or present connection with the
sellers with the exception I privately asked what
kind of camera was used to take the pictures.

While the price was hoovering at the 30K mark, I
guessed that it would bring 40K, about 5k more than
what I would value the coach just because marketing
on Ebay had extremely good pictures,and, a good
write-up as well.

Contrary to photos of this coach, I have seen
pictues on Ebay that were too dark and a person
had to guess what was there. What kind of marketing
is that for crying out loud?

To me, the pictures of this coach may look better
than the coach shows standing looking at it in person.
That would be a let-down, wouldn't it?

The seller agreed to one person's question as to
whether or not the seller would accept an pre-
purchase inspection of the high bidder, the seller
did not oppose this.

The bid surprised me bringing more than I paid for an
'87 in decent condition, however, life is full of
surprises, isn't it?

A lesson in marketing?, perhaps?

bobjanes, '87FC35, greenville, sc

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Doug Engel
wrote:
>
> OK, I'll jump in...
> I sell a fair amout of stuff on Ebay, it is a garage sale
marketplace as far as I'm concerned. I have sold everything from old
service station signage to Porsches, a 1988 BMW M5, motorcycles of a
variety of flavors and the list could go on. I purchased my 1978 GMC
Palm Beach off of Ebay and originally found Pokey there (by the way,
the opening bid on Pokey was 20K, no one ever made an opening bid, it
didn't sell through Ebay). I like and dislike Ebay, but I have NEVER
had an Ebay sale bring top of the market, and I've sold some nice
stuff. I haven't monitored EVERY sale...but it has not been my
experience that Ebay is the place to get the most out of a sale. Are
there often schill bidders, yes. Do auctions often end early with a
buyer who originally found the item on Ebay and then works out a
purchase outside of the auction, yes. Is this OK, yes. Do winning
bidders often fail to complete a purchase, you bet! My point is, Ebay
is a great selling tool, but unlike any
> other I have dealt with, I take everything on there, vehicle
descriptions (and I agree that this Bird is far nicer than most, at
least from the picures) and selling prices with a grain of salt.
> One point that has not been touched on is that to sell a
vehicle for another person really requires a dealers license. It does
in Colorado and I am nearly positive that it does in Texas as well. I
bought a car on Ebay that was being sold by one person and actually
owned by another, it was a mess. Not that this situation will be, but
who are you actually buying the car from? Ebay does not regulate if
sellers have dealers licenses, it's not their job, but selling a car
for another person without a license is against the law in most
states, it is that way to protect the buyer, it's why I have to carry
a bond. Just a word to the wise...
> Is the Rig nice? Sure looks like it! Was it misrepresented, not
that I know of. Was the activity on this forum part of an
orchestrated marketing plan, maybe, but while this is not the place
for that, I don't blame them for trying. Is that rig worth 30K more
than Pokey...not in my book. In reality, items for sale are only
worth, in real dollars, what someone else is willing to pay, so if
the sale goes through, the rig was worth the 50K+...to someone.
> It will be interesting to see if it resurfaces for sale
someplace else for sale, seems to be alot of eyes watching.
> Doug Engel, Gunnison, CO, 1981 FC35SB "Pokey"
>
>
> wrote:
> >
> > We did not do anything to misrepresent this coach in any way.....
>
> Hmmmmmm, I re-read my comments and I see nothing that implies that
you
> mis-represented anything. Anything you are reading into it is of
your
> own making.
>
> I repeat: $50K is top of the market for what appears to be an
original
> 83 FC (actually beyond top of the market IMO). More power to you -
> sincerely. Since it was an eBay auction, where many 'sales' never
> actually materialize, I do hope the money arrives. My real hope
would
> be that it might actually signal a turn around for the entire Bird
> market, but I don't really believe that.
>
> As regards hype, you and thee owner both joined the forum about a
week
> ago and immediately begin posting about the eBay sale listing. To
me,
> that is hype. Hype can be good or bad, but it's still hype and
> working the market. It appears to have worked for you guys.
>
> Since you and the owner both seem to have significant BB
experience, I
> do sincerely hope you will both stick around and contribute to the
> discussion of Bird maintenance, now that the sale is over.
>
> In the meantime, we appreciate real signatures and locations on our
> posts rather than anonymous pseudonyms. And please re-read the forum
> front page rules on post contents.
>
> Merry Christmas to all.
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX (current location - South Padre Island)
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "GRSmith, 111"
> wrote:
> >
> > We did not do anything to misrepresent this coach in any way.....
> trust me..... It's an incredible coach...... believe it or
not.......
> and I have a 1988 .... that is almost as clean as this one with only
> 114K miles..... super service & maintenance all it's life.... garage
> kept for 13 years....... PT 40 ..... awesome.... trying to
> decide...... getting in to the charter coach business..... LORD
> WILLING.... pray for me...... YOu guys are great.... Crusademan
> >
> > mbulriss <mbulriss@> wrote: What a incredible Christmas
> present for that seller. That certainly
> > is top of the market. Hope the money shows up.
> >
> > At that price it sure makes my prior 83PT40 (Stagecoach) seem
> > incredibly cheap at the current owner's asking price of $43,000.
> > hmmmmm...... hype pays off, I guess.
> >
> > Since they just joined the forum last week to promote the sale,
now we
> > get to see if the seller 'Ole Tom' and the marketer 'Crusademan'
stick
> > around to participate on the forum, or unsubscribe now that the
sale
> > is done.......... Hopefully, they will stick around and share
some of
> > Ole Tom's repair and upkeep tips.
> >
> > Mike Bulriss
> > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> > San Antonio, TX (currently on South Padre Island)
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "dthollis1961"

> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Merry Christmas!!!
> > >
> > > David Hollis 84 FC35 Springfield,IL
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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