What's up with Bluebird?

[Tom Warner]

Ah but the sky has fallen Bob. Look on the pan and see where it was
made.......CHINA. That is why they have lost their high value
customers for products like their expensive silverware. They only
franchise their name now.

tom

At 12:07 AM 2/6/2007, you wrote:
>Tom,<snip>"I have witnessed several other long time extremely strong
>companies, Revere Ware in Rome NY and Oneida Ltd in Sherrill ny for
>instance that quickly went under when management made changes that
>were deterimental to their marketing model specifically the
>elimination of salesmen and reduction of quality control."
>
>Perhaps what you knew as Oneida no longer exists but
>the product and name lives on. I ordered and received
>an Oneida teflon fry pan last week, quality and appearence
>seemed to equal the older much used one when it was new.
>The sky has not fallen yet.
>bob janes, 87fc35, greenville, sc
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>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner
>wrote:
> >
> > With all of the uncertainty at BB over the last several years I
> > thought long and hard about buying another bluebird. After a lot of
> > thought I decided to keep the 1982 FC35 that I had spent so much
>time
> > on since if BB were to stop making motorhomes I knew I could get
>all
> > of the parts thru other manufacturers except the bumpers and body
> > panels. I found out however that I could get any body panel and
> > bumpers thru my local Bluebird School bus company here in
> > Chittenango, NY. In fact when I got in the accident with the FC35
>in
> > Nashville, I found out that bluebird did not have the battery
> > compartment door etc to repair it. The bus company in Chittenango
> > however told me they could make any one of the panels since they
>had
> > a complete body and fabrication shop and regularly did that kind of
> > work, and in fact they totally repaired and painted it to like new.
> > They also made me a new generator compartment door for $60 not
> > including the paint.
> >
> > I had previously decided that if I were to get a PT then it would
>be
> > restricted to the 1985-1987 PT models. So when the 1985 PT 40
>became
> > available from Paul Davis I grabbed it up knowing that there would
> > not be a problem getting any parts I needed even if BB were to go
>under.
> >
> > Many of you know that I have been saying BB would not last after
> > touring the factory several times over the last 6 years. I
>believed
> > that the motorhome business would not be sustainable there with the
> > corporate changes that I saw, such as the reduction of wages,
> > elimination of many long time employees and poor quality control. I
> > have witnessed several other long time extremely strong
> > companies, Revere Ware in Rome NY and Oneida Ltd in Sherrill ny
>for
> > instance that quickly went under when management made changes that
> > were deterimental to their marketing model specifically the
> > elimination of salesmen and reduction of quality control. When BB
> > started making larger and heavier motorhomes with a market cap of
> > less then 40 a year and lost their major marketing arm specifically
> > Buddy Gregg I believe the end result was inevitable.
> >
> > Therefore I believe this forum will be a great assett to those
> > keeping their BB thru the sharing of ideas and parts sources.
> >
> > tom warner
> > vernon center,ny
> > 1985 PT 40
> >
> >
> > At 09:20 PM 2/5/2007, you wrote:
> > >I haven't seen or heard anything about moving. However, with new
> > >owners nothing can be ruled out. It is about profitability.
> > >Do you know an insider (a mole) that is supplying the
> > >information? Yes or No would be more that adequate, because I
>gotta
> > >keep my bus running. <>
> > >It could ultimately have a positive or negative affect on all BB
> > >owners. It depends on what the company does.
> > >Be careful now, in this electronic world a double agent could be
> > >listening.
> > >
> > >Leroy Eckert
> > >1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> > >Niceville, FL
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: scoggins_jim
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 7:52 PM
> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] What's up with Bluebird?
> > >
> > >
> > > Talk around the plant has it the parts bunch is moving to Dayton
> > > (Ohio?) with a body works going to Anniston, AL. Further, there
>is
> > > some speculation that Wanderlodge will not be built under the
> > > auspicies of Bluebird (bought by someone else?).
> > > I have seen no other comments on this on the collective bird
>websites.
> > > Do you all know something I don't and am I just now finding out?
> > >
> > > Anyone out there have any details?
> > >
> > > By the way, Jessie is now at Bennie's old job and answering up.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Jim Scoggins
> > > 04M380
> > >
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