Thinking of joining the birders!

[brad barton]

Sorry, Greg.


>From: "Gregory OConnor"
>Reply-To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Thinking of joining the birders!
>Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:27:56 -0000
>
>Damien, BBarton AKA "openMike" must be a comedian. Half bird , cheep
>bird??? some one clip his wings
>GregoryO'Connor
>94ptRomoland
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "brad barton"
><bbartonwx@...> wrote:
> >
> > Damien,
> > I'm new to the group, but a longtime Blue Bird fan. I think the
>coach you
> > are looking at is a black and silver coach with modern decor..and
>it's at a
> > truck dealer. We were considering an LX but cooled off. A retired
>dealer
> > with whom we did business twice (for our first 84-35FC and a 1986
>Newell
> > Classic) nearly came unglued when I brought it up. He was a
>longtime Blue
> > Bird dealer in the 70s and 80s. I have since found out some things
>about
> > the LX. You're free to accept or reject all of this but I believe
>it is
> > true. Most of it came from a Blue Bird rep I spoke to just weeks
>ago.
> > Blue Bird has constantly searched for ways to a lower price point.
>The
> > WanderlodgeII was the first attempt..and pretty sad. Then as
>Wanderlodges
> > got more expensive, Blue Bird looked for a new approach. Their
>engineers
> > said it would take two years to come up with a less expensive 37-
>40'
> > chassis, so they bought Spartan chassis with Cummins M11 engines.
>They were
> > known as a Blue Bird Motor Coach..or a BMC. The only thing Blue
>Bird on it
> > was the dash and the label. The BMC is NOT a Wanderlodge. Not
>bad, just
> > cheap. By the time those chassis ran out, the engineers had a new
>40'
> > platform. They kept the fiberglass body, put new caps on front and
>rear,
> > kept the Cummins engine but used their own superior Blue Bird
>chassis with
> > Ridewell air suspension. Of all the "cheep" Birds, the LX is
>probably the
> > best. But it's still fiberglass outside, virtually no chrome,
>ultraleather
> > vinyl inside, smaller in tank capacity, lacking in design,
>especially around
> > the windows and roughly $150,000 in overall quality, fit and
>finish. We bit
> > the bullet and moved on to the LXi and we're very glad we did.
> > LX owners asking 165K and up don't like to hear their coach is only
>little
> > more than "half" bird, but the truth hurts. NADA book prices on
>the 2000 LX
> > are very harsh..upper 90's to 110's. LX owners have every right to
>feel
> > bitter, but as a buyer, I asked several dealers (who had nothing to
>gain
> > from me) what they would offer. One said 95K, one said 110K and
>the one
> > whole actually knew the actual coach said 150K was a serious
>stretch. Not
> > only are LX owners unhappy, but WBPT and LXi owners are mad, too
>because
> > their own manufacturer made it harder for them to sell their high-
>dollar
> > coaches. And Blue Bird has done it again..most recently wiith the
>M380
> > which was a disaster (Blue Bird rep's word). I can't confirm it,
>but I
> > heard every one of them was recalled for various problems, mainly
>electrical
> > and wiring. They are not made any longer except by special order.
> > All that being said, there's nothing wrong with a Cummins M-11 or
>Allison
> > 4060, or Ultraleather or fiberglass, for that matter. Just make
>sure you
> > understand it's not the steel-bodied full-fledged Wanderlodge most
>of us
> > think of. A poor man's Wanderlodge LX is probably still a lot
>better than
> > most coaches, new or used. If you want the best LX currently on
>the market,
> > look at this coach. It's garaged in Michigan and virtually
>pristine. Nice
> > people, too.
> >
> > http://www.rvtrader.com/rvdetail519280.htm
> >
> > BBarton in Dallas
> >
> >
> > >From: "remiksjewelry"
> > >Reply-To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Thinking of joining the birders!
> > >Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:33:14 -0000
> > >
> > >Hello -
> > >Thanks for having this group! We currently have a Safari Trek and
>are
> > >looking into upgrading to a Bluebird. We found one we like - it
>is a
> > >2000 LX Millenium edition. It is for sale in Maryland. Does any
>know
> > >anything about this particular coach? The price seems right, but
>we
> > >would have to travel quite a distance to see it for ourselves.
>Also,
> > >would love to know about the ride and handling of a bird.
> > >Is the M11 450 cummings a reliable engine?
> > >Any comments or advice will be greatly appreciated.
> > >Thanks!
> > >Damien
> > >
> >
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