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SP's and Baby Birds
03-14-2007, 16:14
Post: #5
SP's and Baby Birds
Ralph,
All good thoughts. You add a lot to our knowledge base.
I have been in M380s and LX's and even a WanderlodgeII.
It's easier to compare them side by side, but there are many quality
differences in those models. A Blue Bird rep pointed out some I didn't
realize; dealers pointed out others although they're glad to sell whatever
they have. Also, note how many M380s are already for sale with less than
20K miles.
The vinyl, upholstery, headliner and carpet on our 84 FC-35 were better than
anything we had in our home. We bought it in 1999 with 65,000 miles on it.
They all looked new when we bought it, and when we sold it, despite two kids
and a dog.
I suppose size and quality will always be linked.
Best wishes.
Brad Barton LXi


>From: "Ralph L. Fullenwider"
>Reply-To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] SP's and Baby Birds
>Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:58:44 -0600
>
>Brad:
>
>Have you seen Baby Bird or been in it? I have and there is nothing of a
>lesser quality about it.
>
>I can think of several reasons for a smaller Bird for some people. Our
>world is shrinking, I think that we can agree on that. The urban
>communities homes are built closer together, remember the old days when a
>20 foot easement between houses were the norm, now it is what? 5 feet?
>There are many full timers out on the roads but there are more younger
>families out there that are weekenders., or a week at Disney World and so
>forth. Those are the ones that live in congested areas, more traffic lower
>bridges and lower weight limits.
>
>That is where the rigs like Rialto are making in roads to the present
>market share. ( I am not schooled on marketing or case studies)
>
>The word smaller is not hand in hand with less quality, roominess perhaps
>but not quality. It was the innovations, quality, and now proven by time,
>longevity, that put BB out ahead of all others and had them chasing to
>catch up and many still are for that matter. Technology have leveled the
>playing field somewhat. I like Newell's and Barth's, too bad the latter did
>not have the funding or management that could see past the present dollar
>signs and tried to envision a future dream as did BB.
>
>Manufacturers have to plan for the rise of costs of the raw materials that
>they need or use. Thank goodness BB has demanded and gotten a better
>quality materials at lower costs and have not let quality suffer the
>difference. Most important of all, are the quality of the people on the
>"line" putting all the parts together. They are the ones who can make or
>break a company when the bottom line is added up. You give the people on
>the line respect, have training schools and a decent wage so Families do
>not suffer and you get the quality because they care. That is why the
>owners of BB's don't have to fight things like staples through wiring
>behind walls that short out. As a for instance.
>
>No, I am of the opinion that there is room for a smaller, updated Bird in
>present day society. This of course is my opinion only and everyone has
>one.
>
>Safe travels,
>
>Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> '84 FC35 Duncan, Oklahoma
>Ralph's RV Solutions
>
>At 11:46 AM 3/14/2007 -0600, you wrote:
> >Ralph and Hank,
> >I agree. The SP36 was a real Bird. Many of us would like to have
>coaches
> >under 40 or 43 feet for vacationing and party coaching. But who wants to
> >buy a short Bird of lower quality? And as a former Newell owner, I can
> >testify to the many advantages of a mid-entry coach; parking flexibility,
> >less ground to cover when loading the coach, more frontal-crash strength
>and
> >a co-pilot seat that's even with the driver and easier on the neck for
> >conversation.
> >Brad Barton
> >
> >
> > >From: "Ralph L. Fullenwider"
> > >Reply-To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] SP's and Baby Birds
> > >Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:06:59 -0600
> > >
> > >Ah Hank no argument on that at all, the mid door like the SP's would be
> > >great. But then BB would make a killing if they put out Baby Birds too.
>450
> > >HP in a 28 or 30 footer! Talk scoot and get it! Now there would
>be a
> > >Bird to run at Maxton hey?
> > >
> > >Safe travels,
> > >
> > >Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> > > '84 FC35 Duncan, Oklahoma
> > >Ralph's RV Solutions
> > >
> > >At 04:48 PM 3/14/2007 +0000, you wrote:
> > > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph L. Fullenwider"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >RALPH:
> > > >I've had a few BIRDS.....This 1990SP36 is probably the BEST BIRD
> > > >they ever made.....Mid door..all the trimmings etc. I call it my
> > > >M380 without the problems....except I would like it to go over the
> > > >mountains a little faster!
> > > >If Bluebird would make some 2008 SP38's with a mid-door and a 450hp
> > > >diesel engine they would sell a TON of them!!!
> > > >That's my two cents from VEGAS and I am confident that my comments
> > > >will get something started!!!
> > > >LOL
> > > >Hank Hannigan
> > > >1990SP36 in Vegas just "lovin it!"
> > > > >
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SP's and Baby Birds - brad barton - 03-14-2007, 06:46
SP's and Baby Birds - Henry Jay Hannigan - 03-14-2007, 06:48
SP's and Baby Birds - Ralph L. Fullenwider - 03-14-2007, 07:06
SP's and Baby Birds - Ralph L. Fullenwider - 03-14-2007, 08:58
SP's and Baby Birds - brad barton - 03-14-2007 16:14



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