EMS 50C
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03-26-2007, 08:01
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EMS 50C
Hello Bill and All:
My thoughts on the EMS did not and does not pit one system against another of the same ilk. Both have value albeit of different inputs and of course lifestyles and present equipment. With the unfortunate experience Ernie braved on his power cable, we have all learned a very valuable lesson, and that is preventative maintenance. I agree, that I missed the most obvious of things incoming power. So I will attempt to separate my thoughts on each matter. These units are good, no doubt but not a wiz bang cure all and the interior parts are subject to the same amperage overloads as any other system. Amperage translates into heat and heat translates to predicted mean time failure for relays, contacts and electronic parts. We all know that relay contacts, over time will discolor with heat aka amperage, then progress from there to pitting of the contact surface thus an actual welding of those very contacts that protects down stream systems by opening and thus stopping the damaging amperage (spike). Ok, I doubt there is a study on the mean time fail rate or percentage of that type of failure. While true, the portable will only do a partial job, but is not the main theme here and of these units to disconnect when a power spike or surge comes from the errant power source in an RV park? Until one of the members reported that his gen set caused the death of a TV set, I had not, in 10 years, seen this happen. Some things I tend to take for granted, such as clean power from gen sets because, unlike RV parks, it is a steady known source of power for our coaches. I tend to stay with the thought, "I have to trust some things, and the gen set is one of those." And also tend to go with the percentage of failure and the gen sets are on the VERY low end of the fail scale. We have learned, on this Forum, over the years, that proper maintenance of the gen set is mandatory to maintain a steady known source of power and I see no reason to have to protect from that source. That is my opinion only and perhaps flawed, but perceived to be a truism. We are also talking about 2 major types of input switching in these coaches as well. That is the manual transfer switch and the automatic transfer switch (ATS) The first, manual, is owner controlled as to the power being allowed into his coach. The latter (ATS) is not owner controlled. Having separated those two, My thoughts go to the two types of EMS units. One the portable and the other the hard wired. The portable, for the manual transfer switch will work the job of the intended use, and that is checking the incoming power in the RV park pedestal and can be checked prior to switching the manual transfer switch to allow the power into the coach. While on the other hand, those coaches with the (ATS) do not have that luxury and I agree, the hard wired is the best choice for those coaches. and offer a better protection. Save for the forgotten power cord, which is not checked, I still belive that either or will get the main job done for the manual coach. Any system can be taken to the point of over kill. What I don't know about this EMS unit, is will it shut down with an over amperage down stream as well as incoming? If it does then, in staying with the original theme of "protection" from errant RV park power, both units, each in it's particular usage get's the job done. If not, then the EMS does have a fault that can fail. Bottom line, the EMS is a GOOD thing but not a cure all and life style and choice becomes the deciding factor. It is hard to believe that MOV's and POV's will burn and open as they are designed to do in under a millisecond. And a millisecond is all that is needed for a huge power spike to take out sensitive electronic systems even though protected. A huge spike of voltage or amperage will actually bridge and air gap of 1/2 inch or less no matter if a relay contact is open or closed, but then that is going off the deep end of the far side of the scale. I have not seen a POV or MOV that reacts in the nano second range as this unit advertises. (still old school here on that) Apologies for this being so long winded, it is just some thoughts on the subject. It still comes down to what each owner is comfortable with and works best for him or her. Safe travels, Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider 84FC35 Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma At 01:45 PM 3/25/2007 -0700, you wrote: >BIG MISTAKE going with the portable unit. >As I said in another post, the hardwire one will also check the portable >cable which is usually the biggest problem on the electrical side. >Ralph, can you explain yourself, why you would think the portable one is >better, as the I think the portable one would only do a partial job. > >Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge" >Terrace, B.C. Canada > > |
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EMS 50C - Gardner Yeaw - 03-25-2007, 02:30
EMS 50C - Don Bradner - 03-25-2007, 04:58
EMS 50C - Leroy Eckert - 03-25-2007, 07:36
EMS 50C - Wilhelmus Schreurs - 03-25-2007, 08:33
EMS 50C - Wilhelmus Schreurs - 03-25-2007, 08:37
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EMS 50C - mbulriss - 03-25-2007, 08:56
EMS 50C - Wilhelmus Schreurs - 03-25-2007, 09:16
EMS 50C - Rob Robinson - 03-25-2007, 09:26
EMS 50C - warbucks13477 - 03-25-2007, 09:55
EMS 50C - ac7880 - 03-25-2007, 12:24
EMS 50C - Gardner Yeaw - 03-25-2007, 12:28
EMS 50C - Rob Robinson - 03-25-2007, 12:34
EMS 50C - Gregory OConnor - 03-25-2007, 13:34
EMS 50C - Rob Robinson - 03-25-2007, 13:59
EMS 50C - Leroy Eckert - 03-25-2007, 14:03
EMS 50C - Richard Hayden - 03-25-2007, 16:23
EMS 50C - Richard Hayden - 03-25-2007, 16:34
EMS 50C - truitt44@...> - 03-25-2007, 23:33
EMS 50C - Leroy Eckert - 03-26-2007, 03:28
EMS 50C - Gregory OConnor - 03-26-2007, 04:35
EMS 50C - Richard Hayden - 03-26-2007, 07:48
EMS 50C - truitt44@...> - 03-26-2007, 07:57
EMS 50C - Ralph L. Fullenwider - 03-26-2007 08:01
EMS 50C - Leroy Eckert - 03-26-2007, 08:33
EMS 50C - Ralph L. Fullenwider - 03-26-2007, 11:53
EMS 50C - Ralph L. Fullenwider - 03-26-2007, 11:57
EMS 50C - Wilhelmus Schreurs - 03-26-2007, 12:18
EMS 50C - one_dusty_hoot - 03-26-2007, 12:49
EMS 50C - truitt44@...> - 03-26-2007, 13:10
EMS 50C - one_dusty_hoot - 03-26-2007, 15:41
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