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EMS 50C
03-26-2007, 08:33
Post: #36
EMS 50C
Yep, I agree with you, Gardner, Richard and Ralph. Ralph's old school analysis
is exactly how I think when it comes to the Genset (I rely on it) and the
Portable Surge Protector with one exception. ATS coach owners do have the
opportunity to check power before they plug in the cord. All you need to do is
read the codes. If it is showing E-0 all is well. Plug it in. In an effort to
prevent a dead TV, I use an additional surge strips on those and other
electronic devises, and as Ralph stated may not be a cure all.
Last Summer lightning got my 56" wide screen power supply at home which was
plugged into an independent constant voltage transformer and surge protector. 4
other unprotected TV's in the home were not damaged. Naturally, the really
expensive protected one took the hit. I think it got to it faster than a nano
second.
I know enough about electricity to know that I do not know enough also, but I'm
gaining on it.
Choices, choices, isn't this fun?

Leroy Eckert
1990WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL
EMS PT-50







----- Original Message -----
From: Gregory OConnor
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 10:35 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: EMS 50C


Leroy, The majorsell for me on a portable unit is 1- stopping the
slectrical powersurge outside of the coach 2- protecting the 50 amp
BB powerchord from passing and being compramised by a surge or
overmax draw 3-allowing visiting guests to use protected power at my
home after I move my bus from its perch. Hard wire protection
(vesectamony) may be the best because you never worry about hooking
up the protection. Hardwire is trick and typical of Bluebird
convienence. Hard wire provides twice the protection (gen/shore).

The passion within this thread is driven by the comforting egarness
of forum members wish to help members.For now I dont use SPotection,.

GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa

I know enough about electricity to realize that I dont know enough.
GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomoland The pass--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy
Eckert" wrote:
>
> I guess everyone can make their own decisions based on the data at
hand. I'll keep the portable since I have had excellent results
using it and I will not have to be concerned with the buzzing noise
others complain about or the potential of compromising factory
wiring. If a power surge takes it out, I'll pull it out of the
pedestal, and repair it or replace it. The less maintenance I have to
perform inside the bus, the better I personally like it.
> Thanks as always for the input. It is good to read everyone's
opinion and conclusions gleaned from the same data.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Hayden
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 10:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: EMS 50C
>
>
> As you said Leroy "With all due respect" then "however", I have
had the generator fail me and take out a new tv. Ernie had his plug
fail and took out a bunch of stuff for him just awhile back. In my
case it ain't broke now and I don't want it to become broke. Been
there, done that.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Leroy Eckert
> To:
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com om>
> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 7:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: EMS 50C
>
> With all due respect, your input may be absolutely true.
>
> However, I purchased my Surge Protector (that is how it was sold)
for one reason only. To protect against irregular park power, nothing
more, nothing less. . I would not expect it to inspect my power cord
for defects or tell me when my transfer switch is taking a &^%$. I do
that. Of course, I cannot see the connections at the transfer switch.
>
> If I want to start my genset, and I do so twice monthly when
plugged into shore power, I turn off the pedestal breaker and pull
the plug. I do not need to know anything about frequency or depend on
an instrument to do it for me. That is all I am saying. I have been
using the Portable for 2 years(about) and everything is fine.
>
> I know I am off the chart on some things, but it it ain't broke
don't fix it. I have had very good luck with it and until something
changes, neither am I.
>
> Frequency to me means how many times I get to walk from the pad
to the cooler for another Lite. LOL
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gardner Yeaw
> To:
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com om>
> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 6:28 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: EMS 50C
>
> Leroy,
> The 136 second delay is to protect air conditioners that don't
> have a built in delay. That way if there is a short power loss or
if
> the unit shuts down it will allow the AC to bleed the presure
down
> before starting the compressor. In the permanent surge protector
> unit it is adjustable to a shorter setting if your AC units don't
> require it.
>
> Gardner
> 78FC33
>
> --- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com om>, "Leroy Eckert"
> wrote:
> >
> > And the PT-50-B that I have does the same thing. There is a 136
> second (I think) delay as the unit checks the electrical data.
> >
> > Leroy Eckert
> > 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> > Niceville, FL
> > As for theft, I stay in nice parks.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Wilhelmus Schreurs
> > To:
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com om>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 2:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: EMS 50C
> >
> >
> > Guys:
> > One thing with the hardwired unit, it does not function
> immediately. If you plug in your cord and the wires are mixed up,
> neutral broken or ground not there, the contactor will not pick
up
> thus not giving you any power in the coach.
> >
> > AND once plugged in, if there is a problem of any sort the
> contactor drops out not giving you any power to the coach.
> >
> > Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
> > Terrace, B.C. Canada
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Don Bradner
> > To:
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com om>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 9:58:18 AM
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: EMS 50C
> >
> > As others have noted, Tweety's tends to be the best price
around
> on a lot of things. I had never heard of them before this EMS
thing
> came up, but when I went looking for a couple of Kwikee
Superslides,
> Tweety's was about $70 each less than others. When I ordered I
> mentioned they were getting that because of the Wanderlodge deal,
> even though I wasn't interested in an EMS.
> >
> > Oh, their portable 50-amp EMS is $289.98. Their current on the
> hardwire is $299.98, and both are listed as sale prices.
> >
> > On 3/25/2007 at 7:24 AM Howard O. Truitt wrote:
> >
> > >Gardner,
> >
> > >I think some of us would rather use the portable Progressive
> EMS PT30 or
> >
> > >PT 50C Surge Protector. One of the great advantages is being
> able to
> >
> > >connect the portable to the outlet and check the outlet and
> power before
> >
> > >pulling in and setting up. How about seeing if a deal could be
> arranged
> >
> > >with Tweety's on the portable units. The going price I have
> found on the
> >
> > >PT 50C is $399.00 S&H included.
> >
> > >Howard Truitt
> >
> > >Camilla, Ga.
> >
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> > >Yahoo! Groups Links
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> > Don Bradner
> >
> > 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
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EMS 50C - erniecarpet@... - 03-24-2007, 10:00
EMS 50C - Rob Robinson - 03-24-2007, 12:55
EMS 50C - Rob Robinson - 03-24-2007, 14:21
EMS 50C - Gardner Yeaw - 03-24-2007, 14:21
EMS 50C - Pete Masterson - 03-24-2007, 14:57
EMS 50C - Richard Hayden - 03-24-2007, 20:23
EMS 50C - Howard O. Truitt - 03-24-2007, 23:24
EMS 50C - pattypape - 03-25-2007, 00:38
EMS 50C - jvredden@... - 03-25-2007, 01:09
EMS 50C - snowbirdtogo - 03-25-2007, 01:35
EMS 50C - Henry Jay Hannigan - 03-25-2007, 01:46
EMS 50C - Gardner Yeaw - 03-25-2007, 02:30
EMS 50C - Don Bradner - 03-25-2007, 04:58
EMS 50C - Leroy Eckert - 03-25-2007, 07:36
EMS 50C - Wilhelmus Schreurs - 03-25-2007, 08:33
EMS 50C - Wilhelmus Schreurs - 03-25-2007, 08:37
EMS 50C - Wilhelmus Schreurs - 03-25-2007, 08:45
EMS 50C - mbulriss - 03-25-2007, 08:56
EMS 50C - Wilhelmus Schreurs - 03-25-2007, 09:16
EMS 50C - Rob Robinson - 03-25-2007, 09:26
EMS 50C - warbucks13477 - 03-25-2007, 09:55
EMS 50C - ac7880 - 03-25-2007, 12:24
EMS 50C - Gardner Yeaw - 03-25-2007, 12:28
EMS 50C - Rob Robinson - 03-25-2007, 12:34
EMS 50C - Gregory OConnor - 03-25-2007, 13:34
EMS 50C - Rob Robinson - 03-25-2007, 13:59
EMS 50C - Leroy Eckert - 03-25-2007, 14:03
EMS 50C - Richard Hayden - 03-25-2007, 16:23
EMS 50C - Richard Hayden - 03-25-2007, 16:34
EMS 50C - truitt44@...> - 03-25-2007, 23:33
EMS 50C - Leroy Eckert - 03-26-2007, 03:28
EMS 50C - Gregory OConnor - 03-26-2007, 04:35
EMS 50C - Richard Hayden - 03-26-2007, 07:48
EMS 50C - truitt44@...> - 03-26-2007, 07:57
EMS 50C - Ralph L. Fullenwider - 03-26-2007, 08:01
EMS 50C - Leroy Eckert - 03-26-2007 08:33
EMS 50C - Ralph L. Fullenwider - 03-26-2007, 11:53
EMS 50C - Ralph L. Fullenwider - 03-26-2007, 11:57
EMS 50C - Wilhelmus Schreurs - 03-26-2007, 12:18
EMS 50C - one_dusty_hoot - 03-26-2007, 12:49
EMS 50C - truitt44@...> - 03-26-2007, 13:10
EMS 50C - one_dusty_hoot - 03-26-2007, 15:41



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