Removing the doghouse 84FC35

[James Harvie]

Just courious. Is there any reason the cooling system, can't be converted to
DexCool?, Permenant Antifreeze ( the green) isn't really permenant. It will
never freeze, but after time it turns from Allaline, to acid, hence the need to
check the PH level. If you don't maintain that, Radiators corrode,engines with
cylinder liners, will start pitting, etc. With Dexcool, you don't have to worry
about all that. I have converted everything I own to Dexcool and so has Penske,
all 270,000 trucks.

Keith Strehle wrote: Thanks! That's good info.
I guess I better get busy finding my
local Cat dealer.

Keith
84FC35

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ac7880"
wrote:
>
> Your Cat dealer sells coolant test strips, and a "SCA" coolant
> additive. The Cat 3208 on your coach does not use a coolant
filter,
> so that is not a avenue to add the SCA.
>
> Dan
> Prior 83 FC35, current 94 BMC 37'
> NM
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Strehle"
> wrote:
> >
> > Yep, very sure. I may install one later but right now I just
want
> to
> > attend to the immediate maintenance issues. Seems like pulling
the
> > radiator is not too much trouble? I need to change the coolant
> > anyway.
> >
> > Speaking of coolant --- I've heard mention of coolant
conditioners
> > and checking the pH level? Do you know about that? Some have
said
> > it may be in the form of a filter?
> >
> > Thanks, Keith
> > 84FC35
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ac7880"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Since you have an 84, I am guessing you do indeed have the
swing
> > > radiator. Are your sure it is not a swing radiator?
> > >
> > > Dan prior 83 Fc35
> > > NM
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Strehle"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately the folks I bought the bird from were not very
> > > familiar
> > > > with the maintenance schedule. It appears the Bird was
> > maintained
> > > on
> > > > a regular schedule but was stored outside. It has a very new
> > > > appearance on the inside but the outside has suffered a
> little.
> > > Not
> > > > much though. It was a "family" bus. Several brothers used
the
> > bus
> > > > from time to time and none of them were real clear on what
had
> > been
> > > > done. I had a friend and fellow bird owner, Robert Britton,
> check
> > > it
> > > > out for me. I drove it from San Jose to San diego 500+ miles
> with
> > > no
> > > > problems.
> > > >
> > > > This mobile mechanic was recommended by a local and well
> > respected
> > > RV
> > > > shop in Escondido. But I agree and don't plan on letting him
> do
> > > > anything except general maintenance. I like to do as much of
> the
> > > > work as I can. Doghouse removal is one of the things I'll do
> > > before
> > > > having the valve adjustment done. Same with the hoses and
> > belts.
> > > > The air filter is just like yours and shouldn't be a problem.
> > > >
> > > > I plan to turn it into a "proven" coach by putting some miles
> and
> > > > some usage on it.
> > > >
> > > > So tomorrow I'm getting the front tires replaced and then the
> > > general
> > > > maintenance stuff. Just trying to get a little peace of mind
> > > before
> > > > driving to Arizona in April.
> > > >
> > > > I guess I'll have to save the coolant change, belts and hoses
> for
> > > > another weekend. I'll get the mobile mechanic to help me
out.
> > > I'll
> > > > do the grunt work.
> > > >
> > > > Then I'll need to get the tranny serviced...
> > > >
> > > > It never ends does it? But it's been a lot of fun so far!
> > > >
> > > > Keith
> > > > 84FC35
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Johnson"
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Keith,
> > > > > If your air cleaner filter is mounted on the top of the
> engine
> > > like
> > > > mine is, there is
> > > > > absolutely no reason to remove the doghouse to change it.
> It's
> > a
> > > > large, square, metal box
> > > > > that sits right on top of the turbo intake. I recently
> changed
> > > > mine out in 20-30 minutes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bear in mind, there are various skill levels out there when
> it
> > > > comes to mechanical help.
> > > > > This guy may be able to "check" belts and hoses but I
> wouldn't
> > > let
> > > > him near the 3208
> > > > > engine internals (I'm talking valve adjustments, etc)
unless
> he
> > > is
> > > > a trained, experienced,
> > > > > diesel mechanic. Many of the really qualified people don't
> > like
> > > to
> > > > mess with motorhomes
> > > > > and things like doghouse removal, so you will need to talk
to
> > > other
> > > > Bird owners in your
> > > > > area or conduct your own search to find someone that CAN do
> it
> > > and
> > > > WANTS to do it at
> > > > > some reasonable cost. Hint...your local Caterpillar shop
may
> > do
> > > > the job, on their terms,
> > > > > but you will pay very dearly. My first valve
> > adjustment/injector
> > > > change cost $2,400 done
> > > > > by Cat. This was after they estimated the cost at $800.
> They
> > > > blamed it all on the time it
> > > > > took to remove and replace the doghouse.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is no way to check condition, replace belts and
> retension
> > > > your belts without
> > > > > removing the radiator. Same goes for hoses. There are
quite
> a
> > > > number of hoses you can't
> > > > > even really see from above or below the engine. I open up
> the
> > > > front or our coach at least
> > > > > annually to look things over. Check the file I posted in
the
> > > files
> > > > section under "3208 Belts
> > > > > FC" if you want more data on belts and tensioning.
> > > > >
> > > > > Changing oil/filters, air filter belts and hoses is a good
> > place
> > > to
> > > > start. Do you know the
> > > > > original owner so you can find out when and what
maintenance
> > > items
> > > > he has done
> > > > > recently? There is a real laundry list of other items, as
> I'm
> > > sure
> > > > you're aware, of other
> > > > > things to look at. I can send you a maintenance
spreadsheet
> I
> > > use
> > > > to keep track of stuff on
> > > > > our coach if you're interested.
> > > > >
> > > > > Finding an 84FC with only 36,000 miles is quite a find. If
> it
> > > was
> > > > stored and maintained
> > > > > well you are in luck. Low mileage is great from a cosmetic
> > wear
> > > > standpoint but these units
> > > > > do best from a mechanical standpoint when they are used
> > regularly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards, Eric in San Antonio
> > > > > 84FC35SBWL2
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Strehle"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just bought the Bird and I'm trying to catch up on some
> of
> > > the
> > > > more
> > > > > > immediate maintenance issues. Oil/filter change, fuel
> > filter,
> > > > air
> > > > > > filter, check belts and hoses, lube the chasis, etc. The
> guy
> > > > said he
> > > > > > can do most of this in three hours. However, as it turns
> > out,
> > > > this
> > > > > > Bird has 36,000 miles so it seems like a good time to
> adjust
> > > the
> > > > > > valves.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But one thing at a time... I don't have a swing
radiator.
> > I'm
> > > > just
> > > > > > wondering if he can get at the air filter without
removing
> > the
> > > > dog
> > > > > > house. And is there any access to check/adjust the belts
> > from
> > > > the
> > > > > > bottom?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Keith
> > > > > > 84FC35
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Johnson"
> > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Keith,
> > > > > > > You won't need to remove the doghouse to check the
belts,
> > > hoses
> > > > and
> > > > > > air filter but you
> > > > > > > will need to open up the front of the coach which is
much
> > > > easier
> > > > > > than removing the
> > > > > > > doghouse. If you have a swing radiator, it will be a
> > pretty
> > > > short
> > > > > > job to get to the front of
> > > > > > > the engine. If you don't have a swing radiator (I
don't)
> > you
> > > > will
> > > > > > need to drain the radiator
> > > > > > > and remove it. Takes about an hour when you're used to
> > doing
> > > > it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Removing the doghouse is required when you need to get
> into
> > > the
> > > > top
> > > > > > of the engine to
> > > > > > > adjust valves, replace injectors, etc. I posted a
> > > Wanderlodge
> > > > > > procedure for this in the Files
> > > > > > > section of this forum. I just had an experienced BB
> > mechanic
> > > > pull
> > > > > > the doghouse to do
> > > > > > > some engine work. Took him 2 hours to get it out and 2
> > hours
> > > > to
> > > > > > put it back in. It's heavy
> > > > > > > and cumbersome to work with in a fairly tight area.
> Avoid
> > > this
> > > > > > unless it's time to adjust
> > > > > > > valves (every 40,000 miles per Caterpillar).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards, Eric in San Antonio
> > > > > > > 84FC35SBWL2
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Keith
Strehle"
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I recently saw a post on removing the doghouse. I'm
> > having
> > > > some
> > > > > > > > maintenance done tomorrow by a mobile mechanic and
> > thought
> > > it
> > > > > > would be
> > > > > > > > a good idea to be familiar with doghouse removal. He
> says
> > > he
> > > > will
> > > > > > check
> > > > > > > > all the belts , hoses, and air filter, etc. I think
it
> > > > > > says "dynapak"
> > > > > > > > on the filter housing and I'm certain I'll need to
> remove
> > > the
> > > > > > doghouse
> > > > > > > > to get at the belts, etc.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Your help is appreciated, Keith
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 84FC35
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>






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